So fess up. All of you

[babylonsister]

who badmouthed Mueller, claiming he's a republican and will sadly act like one, and there was A LOT of that going on, are you now convinced you were wrong? Do you think he acted in a partisan manner today?

[Dirty Socialist]

1. I didn't

However, I didn’t know the media was in bed with Trump.
Until NOW.😟

[mountain grammy]

21. I kind of knew that, but it's pretty clear now.

Selling us out big time for ratings. I turn it off every time I see his lying face.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

2. I think he was being very, very careful *not* to seem partisan in either direction.

And I wonder whether those who are having hissy fits because Mueller didn't pound the table and call Trump a traitor, a crook, a feckless blowhard and an all-around douchebag have thought about what would have happened if he'd done even a much more restrained version of that. Any noticeable anti-Trump partisanship would have only played into Trump's hands and supplied a factual basis, however small, for his baseless claims that Mueller is a compromised Democrat conducting a witch hunt. Mueller walked the tightrope perfectly.

[emmaverybo]

26. +1

[proud patriot]

27. ++2

[KentuckyWoman]

36. Count me +3

I never said he'd be a partisan hack tho.. so my opinion in this thread is meaningless......

Well, my opinion is meaningless either way..

[JoeOtterbein]

3. I did.

He could have sunk the GOP for decades today. He did the job he was appointed by a Republic for: Protect the GOP at All Costs.

By not calling for impeaching, by our leadership is the proof of that.

Until we do otherwise, Trump won today.

(tears and fears)

[shenmue]

4. Hush

Pfffft.

[JoeOtterbein]

5. Never.

Ever.

[babylonsister]

6. Wow. We must have watched different things. nt

[JoeOtterbein]

9. Agreed. nt

[TwilightZone]

7. Why would he call for impeachment?

If you honestly think he was going to do that, you haven't paid attention to anything he's done to date or read his report. That was never an option and was never a call he was going to make. It's also not his call.

[JoeOtterbein]

10. Agreed.

The GOP would never appointed him SC if they thought he would.

[babylonsister]

11. You're totally ignoring

his career and professional integrity. And I seriously doubt anyone, including Rod Rosenstein, knew where this was going when he was appointed.

[Hermit-The-Prog]

13. that was not his job

Only the House of Representatives can impeach.

Mueller did as he said he would -- refer to his report.

[JoeOtterbein]

17. He could have said that.

He clearly did not.

[Hermit-The-Prog]

23. no, he clearly did

This was covered by one of the women asking questions. (Sorry, I forget her name).

You may want to read through the following, from April:

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/04/mueller-report-impeachment-referral/587509/

[Nuggets]

29. His job is to bring justice not to follow some policy that isn't even a law.

Yes sir, it was Muellers job to indict, he failed to even interview key ppl.

Why would Dems push this made up excuse ?

Show me where the Constitution says you can’t indict a sitting president.

[Hermit-The-Prog]

34. the Constitution provides 1 way to remove a President

The House of Representatives shall choose their speaker and other officers; and shall have the sole power of impeachment.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/articlei#section2

The Senate shall have the sole power to try all impeachments. When sitting for that purpose, they shall be on oath or affirmation. When the President of the United States is tried, the Chief Justice shall preside: And no person shall be convicted without the concurrence of two thirds of the members present.

Judgment in cases of impeachment shall not extend further than to removal from office, and disqualification to hold and enjoy any office of honor, trust or profit under the United States: but the party convicted shall nevertheless be liable and subject to indictment, trial, judgment and punishment, according to law.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/articlei#section3

The President, Vice President and all civil officers of the United States, shall be removed from office on impeachment for, and conviction of, treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/articleii#section4

Now, show me where it says an employee of the Department of Justice can remove a President.

[Nuggets]

38. It doesn't say we can't indict a president while sitting in office

Republicans themselves said exactly that when they went after Clinton.


Thus it is just policy as Mueller himself stated.

So that argument holds no water.


This is a way to try and pass blame onto Dems.
And an attempt to split the party. If they can get fools to push Dems into impeachment Trump and co are free.

Question is why do many here keep pushing the current right wing narrative that we can’t indict a sitting president?

Curious indeed. 🧐

[Tarc]

18. Mueller doesn't work for the Democratic Party. That wasn't his job

He did the groundwork, it is up to Pelosi and the House leadership to hit the softball he lobbed gently at them.

[Nuggets]

31. No that's called passing the buck

He’s a coward working with the HOP and the other guilty as sin FBI worms whom all these same DUers were saying were straight arrows. Lol! Yeah, we should continue to listen to these ppl!😂

[Tarc]

42. Mueller is not an elected official. We're not a banana republic that puts power

into the hands of such people. It is up to the people that WE voted for in Congress to get the job done.

[sheshe2]

19. Unbelievable.

He could have sunk the GOP for decades today. He did the job he was appointed by a Republic for: Protect the GOP at All Costs.

He did nothing of the sort.



No clue what station you watched today. SMDH.

Trump won nothing today. His fear was apparent at his little presser today. Guess you missed that.

[mountain grammy]

22. sadly agree.

[TwilightZone]

8. They just cricitized his appearance and mannerisms, instead.

Seeing that here on DU was a bit mind-boggling. I would have thought we'd value content over style, but clearly, that doesn't apply to all.

[babylonsister]

12. Yes, I was shocked, and not in a good way. nt

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

15. Too many people don't seem to understand that a Congressional hearing

isn't a made-for-TV entertainment event. These events aren't intended as entertainment but as one of the slowly-turning wheels of government. Things are happening, but not fun, amusing TV things. It reminds me a lot of the difference between a trial in a TV show like Law and Order, which is full of excitement and lawyers yelling and witnesses freaking out, and a real trial, which is mostly as boring as hell, consisting of witnesses who stammer and mutter, tedious introduction of documents and exhibits, and long interludes of bench conferences. If you've never seen a real trial you'll think Law and Order's trials are realistic; if you don't know what Congressional hearings are really for, you'll be disappointed at their lack of entertainment value.

[lame54]

14. Partisan?...

I want him to be pissed off

Trump is stealing our country and Mueller's mouth could go a long way to stopping it

Private citizen Robert Mueller could hold a press conference and expose Trump as the criminal he is

But he doesn't want to "break the rules" or not "go by the book".

You think Trump gives a shit about breaking the rules or going by the book? You think trump has even read a book?

War Hero vs Bone Spurs

How the fuck is Bone Spurs winning?

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

16. Mueller did Democrats a big favor by carefully avoiding the appearance of partisanship.

He refused to give Trump any factual basis for claiming he's a compromised Democrat conducting a witch hunt. If he'd come out with a statement to the effect that Trump is in fact guilty of crimes, he'd have hurt the Dems' chances at impeachment, not helped them.

[lame54]

20. What impeachment?

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

24. There's still a chance it could happen.

[lame54]

25. Chance...Could...

That's reassuring

[sprinkleeninow]

35. Anndd, orangeface's mouthpieces are all over the place

twisting the words of today's testimony as per the usual.

"See, innocent of all what this phoney waste of money witch hunt was about." 🤤

[Nuggets]

28. He did

He has totally failed at his job he’s had multiple opportunities to get a complete investigation he had the power to do so and he failed to do so. His testimony made it seem like h didn’t even read his own report. His testimony that really didn’t say a whole hell of a lot except it’s ontge Dems now to impeach and he knows perfectly well that will he exonerate Trump.


The real question is why so many DUers are so adamant about protecting Mueller just like they were adamant about protecting Comey and Rosenstein ? And why so quick to call Pelosi’s and Schiff’s actions political.

Nope, this is just a neat way for Mueller and the GOP to be able to turn the blame over on the Democrats, as usual, For whatever reason there is a group here that has done everything in their power to stop any neg talk about Mueller and lay it on Pelosi.
Sorry folks you’re wasting your time. Fortunately Pelosi and Schiff hold the reins and not any of you.

[Turin_C3PO]

30. He did his job well and admirably.

Today’s testimony was devastating to Trump.

[Nuggets]

32. Lol!

Keep on hanging onto that sinking raft.

[Turin_C3PO]

33. You're peddling right wing talking points.

But you know that.

[smirkymonkey]

40. +1000

For the life of me, I cannot understand this worship of Mueller on our side. Why are so many people defending him when it is clear that he is a partisan coward?

I am sickened by his gutless testimony today. He could have been a hero, but he chose to suck up to Barr and company. He was such a huge disappointment

[ProudLib72]

37. I'm not fessing up to anything! I said "be prepared to be disappointed"

and it looks like I was right for the half of DUers who believed he would scream "Impeach the motherfucker" in the middle of the testimony.

[smirkymonkey]

41. So many people have put their faith in a blatantly partisan republican.

It amazes me how many people here still stand by him. I know my opinion is unpopular, but I have never thought the guy was going to do anything for our side.

He threw us a few crumbs, but if he had been honest, he could have thrown us the whole loaf of bread.

[babylonsister]

44. How on earth is he a 'blatantly partisan republican'?

[Bettie]

43. He did more than I expected

which is a good thing.

I wish he had been able to say more, but, in the end, he's an authoritarian and Barr is the authority in his world, so he did what he could within the confines of what he was ordered to do.