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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsMy prediction...which is probably wrong, but what the hell....Impeachment proceedings start...
...after the winter recess. By then all the court cases should be resolved.
The Impeachment proceedings will be slow walked, they will purposely drop a dead body out once a month to put Dump on the defensive. While he is rage tweeting, he won't be able to concentrate on the election. He's already proven he can't stay focused.
elleng
(130,964 posts)Fiendish Thingy
(15,622 posts)Otherwise the momentum generated by todays hearing will be lost, and the media will craft a narrative that its too close to the election and strictly political gamesmanship.
Xolodno
(6,395 posts)They still have McGhan, Hicks and his taxes...and a bit more.
Today was just a shot across the bow. Pelosi, from the press conference, pretty much stated they will proceed with impeachment when its so obvious they have no choice to. Which gives them plenty of cover should things go south.
Republicans rushed on their impeachment of Clinton thinking it would benefit them, they read the tea leaves wrong. Nancy is a hell of a lot smarter, she'll move the throttle as needed.
The goal isn't to get Trump impeached, but make sure he loses the election. Which has to be terrifying him, Mueller stated clearly he can be indicted once out of office. It becomes a question of his ego vs. resigning...and if Pence is willing to give him a blanket pardon. Granted he is not immune to state prosecution, but a federal pardon makes those cases a bit harder.
UniteFightBack
(8,231 posts)fake prez and pardons him?
uponit7771
(90,347 posts)RockRaven
(14,972 posts)optimal time (in terms of impact on public opinion and the next election) for the House to actually achieve a completed impeachment vote and pass the ball to the unwilling Senate?
Those are two important variables which I rarely see discussed with any specificity.
Xolodno
(6,395 posts)Many here want to see Trump's head on a platter right now.
But I don't believe impeachment is the goal...but rather damage him for the next election. Imagine if he resigns prior to the election, the consequences to the GOP will be very hard to contemplate. And if he does make it to the election and loses? He knows he can be indicted, Mueller said as much.
This will be slow and steady, Pelosi won't rush this like the GOP did with Clinton.
DeminPennswoods
(15,286 posts)death by a 1000 cuts.
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)Bingo. That is the achievable goal, and a series of hearings (sure, call them impeachment inquiry) will do the job nicely.
TreasonousBastard
(43,049 posts)(the Republican public, not just pissed off Democrats) and Clinton's was engineered by Gingrich with a Republican congress happy to get rid of him just "because".
Clinton's approvals did go up after he survived impeachment, but who really thinks Trump's will?
From the Wiki on that impeachment...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impeachment_of_Bill_Clinton
While Clinton's job approval rating rose during the Clinton-Lewinsky scandal and subsequent impeachment, his poll numbers with regard to questions of honesty, integrity and moral character declined. As a result, "moral character" and "honesty" weighed heavily in the next presidential election. According to The Daily Princetonian, after the 2000 presidential election, "post-election polls found that, in the wake of Clinton-era scandals, the single most significant reason people voted for Bush was for his moral character."
Polybius
(15,428 posts)In an election year, they won't wanna appear partisan. The time to do it is now or never.
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)DeminPennswoods
(15,286 posts)after members return from August recess.
AncientGeezer
(2,146 posts)I very much doubt that...I suspect more than a few will be run up to SCOTUS...
librechik
(30,674 posts)blocked by Barr--if we lose, then we CAN get them by forming impeachment committee. That might be this week or next.
I know, I've been holding my breath SO LONG gasp
NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)Nobody close to Team Trump - they'll get on TV and take the 5th, or take the 5th in advance of the hearing so they won't have to take the 5th to an audience of millions.
I can see Mueller's team testifying under oath - especially the ones that didn't come from DOJ
Who else?