Seth Abramson: 'Aiding and abetting' a foreign adversary who attacks us. WTF is that? Not treason?

[triron]

Link to tweet

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

1. It's not treason in the legal sense of the word because

treason, as defined by the law and interpreted by the courts, consists of aiding and abetting an enemy in a declared war. It's traitorous, of course, but it's not indictable treason.

[Hermit-The-Prog]

2. it's treason by the Constitution

The problem is that the only law declaring punishment for treason includes a definition of enemy effectively as you said.

So, Trump has committed treason, but Congress never got around to defining a punishment for treason with a hostile power not engaged in acts governed by the rules of war.

[triron]

4. Agree.

[triron]

3. Maybe so but that interpretation is obsolete imo. We will never be in a 'declared war' again.

Russia attacked us at a most fundamental level. Putin will destroy us without firing a shot if
we don't wake up.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

5. It's the law until the courts or Congress decide otherwise.

[Hermit-The-Prog]

6. wish a lawyer admitted before SCOTUS would weigh in

The only place I've seen "enemy" defined is at:

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/50/2204

But that only applies to that chapter.

[triron]

7. Good citation though.

[malaise]

8. From the Con asked Russia to find Hillary's emails

it was treason

[triron]

10. See what Seth Abramson has to say below.

[triron]

9. Seth later adds this:

Link to tweet

[malaise]

11. This

6/ Media is correctly noting that Mueller went beyond the question he was asked only *once* today: and it was *on that question* that I'm now saying he leveled a charge of aiding and abetting (a *serious* federal crime) against the President. We need to start discussing this now.

[triron]

12. This is treason because Russia is an adversay and Russia attacked us. That's like

Roosevelt inviting (and praising) Japan to attack mainland U.S. after Pearl Harbor.
Treason needs to be updated to modern era. Putin doesn't have to fire a shot to defeat us.

[Hermit-The-Prog]

14. ITTMFA

I can't help myself.

[Kid Berwyn]

13. It is treason.

GOP and it’s wealthy enablers don’t mind, for some reason.