MUELLER HEARINGS. Atty. Seth Abramson's 10 NEW THINGS we learned.

[pnwmom]

Plus 3 bonuses.

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1154441003622944768.html

(THREAD) Far and away the worst take on Mueller's testimony is that we learned nothing new from it. In fact, the *new* facts we learned were jaw-dropping. This thread focuses *only* on 10 new things we now know. I hope you'll RETWEET this for anyone you think might be interested.

1. A VAST TRUMP-RUSSIA COUNTERINTELLIGENCE PROBE IS ONGOING. It's exponentially broader than Mueller's probe, it covers "collusion" (a fair term in the counterintelligence sphere) and its findings are being kept from America *and* Congress. The fight to see them began yesterday.

2. FEDERAL LAW ENFORCEMENT CAN'T CONFIRM TRUMP ISN'T COMPROMISED BY RUSSIA. Because "compromise" is a counterintelligence issue, and compromised politicians are national security threats, and no one has seen any FBI counterintelligence report, we don't know if Trump is a threat.

3. MUELLER DIDN'T INVESTIGATE ANYTHING TRUMP WAS ACCUSED OF BESIDES OBSTRUCTION. The non-obstruction allegations against Trump were aiding/abetting, bribery, money laundering, and illegal pre-election receipt of in-kind donations from non-Russians. Mueller looked at none of that.

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[Hoyt]

1. Agree. Mueller's testimony, and skilled questioning by Democrats, provided plenty of information for

those who care. Much better than I expected. Although Mueller started off saying he found no evidence of collusion/conspiracy/coordination, by the end of the two hearings, that statement was tempered significantly.

The hearing might not lead to screams for Impeachment, but it darn sure tainted trump for those critical voters -- may 5 to 10% -- who are not already dug in on the two sides.

[Ninga]

2. Yikes! We are more fucked than I thought 5 minutes before I read this......sigh. Nt

[triron]

3. Good! You are awake now. You have taken the red pill as they said in 'The Matrix'.

[AlexSFCA]

12. I thought 'redpilling' was the term alt right uses

I guess it works both ways.

[budkin]

4. But impeachment is off the table!

Because we need a rock-solid case?

[triron]

6. Sarcasm?

[budkin]

24. Yes.

This really annoys me, and I'm worried that Pelosi's inaction is going to end up getting Trump re-elected. God I hope I'm wrong.

[Duppers]

21. Zactly.

[blugbox]

5. Just the fact that Republicans in the know are now trashing Mueller

exactly as those in the know here predicted should tell you everything about the effectiveness of these hearings. They are attacking him because thats all they have left to lean on.

If you find yourself heavily agreeing with far right viewpoints (Mueller was frail and boring and ineffective), there might be an issue.

[PaulRevere08]

11. I would to see what state tRump would be in after 30 minutes of being aggressively questioned

and having to tell the truth. He would be a quivering mass of whimpering jello.

[ismnotwasm]

7. K&R

[emmaverybo]

8. Good post. NT

[erronis]

9. Complete unroll

1. A VAST TRUMP-RUSSIA COUNTERINTELLIGENCE PROBE IS ONGOING. It's exponentially broader than Mueller's probe, it covers "collusion" (a fair term in the counterintelligence sphere) and its findings are being kept from America *and* Congress. The fight to see them began yesterday.

2. FEDERAL LAW ENFORCEMENT CAN'T CONFIRM TRUMP ISN'T COMPROMISED BY RUSSIA. Because "compromise" is a counterintelligence issue, and compromised politicians are national security threats, and no one has seen any FBI counterintelligence report, we don't know if Trump is a threat.

3. MUELLER DIDN'T INVESTIGATE ANYTHING TRUMP WAS ACCUSED OF BESIDES OBSTRUCTION. The non-obstruction allegations against Trump were aiding/abetting, bribery, money laundering, and illegal pre-election receipt of in-kind donations from non-Russians. Mueller looked at none of that.

4. THERE IS SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE TRUMP AIDED AND ABETTED COMPUTER CRIMES. Mueller testified—under oath—that Trump gave "hope" and a "boost" to WikiLeaks' "criminal activity" after he knew such activity was afoot. The crime that describes—aiding/abetting—must now be investigated.

5. THERE IS SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE TRUMP COMMITTED THE FEDERAL FELONY OF MAKING FALSE STATEMENTS TO LAW ENFORCEMENT. Mueller testified—under oath—that Trump's written answers to the FBI and the Special Counsel were "generally" *untruthful*, as the facts in Mueller's report confirm.

6. TRUMP AND GOP CLAIMS OF "NO COLLUSION," "NO OBSTRUCTION," AND "NO EVIDENCE OF CONSPIRACY OR COORDINATION" ARE ALL FALSE. It isn't news to anyone paying attention, but as much of America isn't, many learned for the first time from Mueller that these GOP talking points are lies.

7. MUELLER SAID TRUMP COULD BE CHARGED WITH OBSTRUCTION POST-PRESIDENCY AND WOULD HAVE BEEN CHARGED NOW IF NOT FOR THE OLC. Mueller's later (confusing) "walk-back" of the second claim—which many had taken as an accidental truth—didn't erase the specter that he meant what he said.

8. ANY TRUMP CRIMES INVOLVING OTHER NATIONS ARE STILL UNREPORTED. Mueller's testimony made clear that evidence involving nations besides Russia—whether past election interference or future election interference, past collusion or future collusion—went to FBI counterintelligence.

9. REPUBLICANS HAVE NO OBJECTIONS TO ANY OF THE DAMNING FACTS IN THE MUELLER REPORT. Media waited with baited breath for Republicans to contest the Report's damning findings rather than just opine about what else Mueller could have looked at—and shockingly, the moment never came.

10. MUELLER ONLY CHOSE NOT TO INTERVIEW TRUMP FACE-TO-FACE BECAUSE HE ADJUDGED HE HAD ENOUGH EVIDENCE OF "CORRUPT INTENT" ON OBSTRUCTION. Mueller resolved a *longstanding* mystery: why didn't he insist on keeping Trump to his public promise of a live interview? Well, now we know.

BONUS. TRUMP WITNESSES "IMPEDED" THE MUELLER INVESTIGATION. Mueller testified under oath—in answers to questions by Rep. Demings—that contrary to Trump and GOP claims that the White House facilitated campaign aides assisting Mueller, the opposite was true: they tried to stop him.

BONUS. MUELLER BELIEVES TRUMP AND HIS AIDES OPENED THEMSELVES TO KREMLIN BLACKMAIL. Mueller told Rep. Correa he "doesn't disagree" that a series of acts answering to behavior by Trump and his aides would be sufficient to give the Kremlin leverage and blackmail material over them.

BONUS. MUELLER SAYS NOT REPORTING FOREIGN AID OFFERS IN A CAMPAIGN CAN BE A CRIME. Trump says it isn't; the GOP is today fighting as hard as they can not to legislate on it—as they think Trump will do (may already have done) it—but Mueller told Rep. Himes it can be a crime *now*.

BONUS. TRUMP AND THE GOP SAY NEITHER MUELLER NOR BARR CAN "EXONERATE" TRUMP ON OBSTRUCTION. One of yesterday's oddest moments came when *multiple* Republicans said no one at DOJ can exonerate Trump on obstruction—meaning Mueller's report is definitionally an impeachment referral.

BONUS. TRUMP'S CAMPAIGN MANAGER PAUL MANAFORT SPENT THE WHOLE CAMPAIGN EXPECTING TO RECEIVE FINANCIAL COMPENSATION (NOT JUST LOAN FORGIVENESS) FROM THE KREMLIN FOR HIS STEWARDSHIP OF TRUMP. Many thought this shocking fact was discussed at length in Mueller's report—but it wasn't.

PS. Mueller also refused to say there was "no evidence" Manafort met with Assange; refused to say there was no evidence Trump's campaign was involved in the theft of HRC/DNC emails; rejected the "hoax" and "witch hunt" slurs; and said Putin could have compromising tapes of Cohen.

[Qutzupalotl]

13. Thank you, I was coming to post this. nt

[erronis]

14. And thank you. This is the easy part - following up with an OP

I'm usually pretty lame when it has to do with original content....

[PWPippinesq]

18. Thank you, kind sir.

[ffr]

10. Thank you!

Can we build enough prison space to hold all the members of the KGOP?

[lagomorph777]

15. Just pack 'em in like migrants in the concentration camps.

Saves a lot of space and budget.

[jayschool2013]

16. Don't forget the ramen

Lots and lots of cheap, salty ramen.

[0rganism]

19. cooked & served in toilet tank water

because that's just standard these days

[SunSeeker]

17. 4. Mueller is not our savior. That is our job. nt

[spanone]

20. K&R...👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼

[bucolic_frolic]

22. we don't know

if Trump is a threat?

Don't read his lips, watch his actions.

[onetexan]

23. K&R