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left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
Thu Jul 25, 2019, 07:04 PM Jul 2019

Trump lashes out at Sweden: 'Give A$AP Rocky his freedom'

President Trump on Thursday forcefully objected to Sweden's decision to pursue charges against rapper A$AP Rocky, whose case the president has taken an interest in after it was raised by Kanye West and Kim Kardashian West. The president tweeted that he was "very disappointed" in Swedish Prime Minister Stefan Löfven, who said over the weekend he would not intervene in the case despite a phone call from Trump.

"Sweden has let our African American Community down in the United States," Trump tweeted. "I watched the tapes of A$AP Rocky, and he was being followed and harassed by troublemakers. Treat Americans fairly! #FreeRocky" ... "Give A$AP Rocky his FREEDOM," Trump said in a subsequent tweet.

The rapper was charged Thursday with committing an assault causing actual bodily harm during an altercation late last month in Stockholm. Rocky, whose real name is Rakim Mayers, and two members of his entourage allegedly assaulted Mustafa Jafari over the course of several minutes in the streets of Stockholm in an incident captured on video, according to The New York Times.

The case quickly gained traction in the U.S. after Trump said he learned of it from first lady Melania Trump and had discussed it with Kanye West.

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/454806-trump-lashes-out-at-sweden-give-aap-rocky-his-freedom

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Trump lashes out at Sweden: 'Give A$AP Rocky his freedom' (Original Post) left-of-center2012 Jul 2019 OP
The King of the World has spoken. dalton99a Jul 2019 #1
So Sweden isn't supposed to be allowed to manage its own criminal justice system The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2019 #2
Maybe if we keep stumpy involved in Maxheader Jul 2019 #3
As long as he doesn't decide to invade Sweden in order to free Rocky. The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2019 #5
They are toying with you Mr. President.. Sneederbunk Jul 2019 #4
Maybe Trump can get permission from Norway Captain Zero Jul 2019 #6
Or what? n/t onecaliberal Jul 2019 #7
"If we wanted to fight a war in Sweden and win it, I could win that war in a week." The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2019 #9
I agree, it's one of the things that keeps me up nights. I know without a shadow of a doubt he is onecaliberal Jul 2019 #13
Navy Seals,.. Army Rangers,... Marine Tough Guys,... magicarpet Jul 2019 #8
"I watched the tapes" handmade34 Jul 2019 #10
Yet he almost certainly was played the tapes Blue_Tires Jul 2019 #36
The tapes were very clear. former9thward Jul 2019 #37
there are more videotapes than just the selective ones that Rocky's side is putting out Celerity Jul 2019 #42
Swedish law is also different from American law mercuryblues Jul 2019 #48
NO racists get a pass from me... handmade34 Jul 2019 #44
Yeah, like THAT has any currency . . . . . . no_hypocrisy Jul 2019 #11
Can we arrange a swap? The Orange Emperor for the rapper? Vinca Jul 2019 #12
I don't think Sweden would take him. The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2019 #14
he takes more interest in a guy his friend asked him to get set free than he does kids in cages. Takket Jul 2019 #15
Maybe Kanye West and Kim Kardashian West ... left-of-center2012 Jul 2019 #16
brilliant handmade34 Jul 2019 #45
Headline: Trump holds ABBA as political hostages demands return of Rocky Marciano from Sweden Shaddox Jul 2019 #17
Nice to see that Kanye can call his buddy Trump Blue_Tires Jul 2019 #18
I still remember what President Obama had to say about Kanye. Tipperary Jul 2019 #35
Trump places tariffs on Swedish meatballs left-of-center2012 Jul 2019 #19
There is something SO very fucking wrong with this Blue_Tires Jul 2019 #20
"a brawl at a rap concert" left-of-center2012 Jul 2019 #23
Yeah, you can tell I haven't been caring enough to keep up Blue_Tires Jul 2019 #32
They should send him an old case of lutefisk instead. Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jul 2019 #21
Or an unassembled IKEA dining room set. The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2019 #22
ASAP should be freed but tRump shouldn't be publicizing this. Joe941 Jul 2019 #24
Why? He was legitimately accused of a crime The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2019 #25
Because he has money! That means he should have more freedom! /s ck4829 Jul 2019 #49
I want to see the Faux Snooze klan take on this superpatriotman Jul 2019 #26
Trump is actually right on this case JCMach1 Jul 2019 #27
How do you know? The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2019 #31
Did you even watch the tapes? former9thward Jul 2019 #38
That's not for me to say. That's for the Swedish judicial system to decide. The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2019 #39
Really??? former9thward Jul 2019 #40
Watch the tapes... JCMach1 Jul 2019 #41
there are tapes handmade34 Jul 2019 #46
No, not so much. Tipperary Jul 2019 #34
What about the moose??? Midnightwalk Jul 2019 #28
The moose is realli nasti, you know: tblue37 Jul 2019 #33
Did the little dicator forget "or else!"? sinkingfeeling Jul 2019 #29
The president now insists on being called "BFD Donald". Buns_of_Fire Jul 2019 #30
Glad you have your priorities straight. smirkymonkey Jul 2019 #43
I'm sure his "music" alone is prison worthy. miyazaki Jul 2019 #47

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,711 posts)
2. So Sweden isn't supposed to be allowed to manage its own criminal justice system
Thu Jul 25, 2019, 07:07 PM
Jul 2019

without interference with Fatfuck 45 just because he wants to use the arrest of some rich black celebrity in order to "prove" he's not racist?

Maxheader

(4,373 posts)
3. Maybe if we keep stumpy involved in
Thu Jul 25, 2019, 07:07 PM
Jul 2019

trivial events the bastard won't have time to start the war machine moving..

Captain Zero

(6,806 posts)
6. Maybe Trump can get permission from Norway
Thu Jul 25, 2019, 07:21 PM
Jul 2019

For us to invade Sweden through it. Offer them some immigration visas under the table after Stephen Miller gets us down to zero immigration levels? If Trump can't get this guy freed asap, congressional hearings should begin.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,711 posts)
9. "If we wanted to fight a war in Sweden and win it, I could win that war in a week."
Thu Jul 25, 2019, 07:38 PM
Jul 2019

"I just don't want to kill 10 million people. I have plans on Sweden, that if I wanted to win that war, Sweden would be wiped off the face of the Earth. It would be gone. It would be over in -- literally, in 10 days, and I don't want to do -- I don't want to go that route."

-Fatfuck 45

onecaliberal

(32,861 posts)
13. I agree, it's one of the things that keeps me up nights. I know without a shadow of a doubt he is
Thu Jul 25, 2019, 08:35 PM
Jul 2019

Stupid and evil enough to actually do it.

magicarpet

(14,154 posts)
8. Navy Seals,.. Army Rangers,... Marine Tough Guys,...
Thu Jul 25, 2019, 07:36 PM
Jul 2019

... invade Sweden,.. 6 deferments,.. Chicken Hawk Commander in Chief says.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
36. Yet he almost certainly was played the tapes
Thu Jul 25, 2019, 10:36 PM
Jul 2019

from the Saudi embassy and yet he found no wrongdoing...

former9thward

(32,013 posts)
37. The tapes were very clear.
Thu Jul 25, 2019, 10:42 PM
Jul 2019

Did you watch them? If this was the U.S. the people who assaulted him would be denounced -- and on this site. But Sweden racists get a pass... Why?

Celerity

(43,389 posts)
42. there are more videotapes than just the selective ones that Rocky's side is putting out
Fri Jul 26, 2019, 01:07 AM
Jul 2019

I am in Stockholm (and London) for the summer. I am in Stockholm as I type this. The exact intersection where it happened is Olofsgatan (where the fight took place, right around the corner from the main entrance of a giant food hall called Kungshallen on Kungsgatan, a main street) and Apelbergsgatan (the small side street they walked down after the fight.) There are CCTV cams everywhere down there and the prosecutor's office reviewed a lot of evidence from multiple videos, as well as taking multiple statements from other witnesses.

There is almost zero chance that the prosecutor's office (Åklagarmyndigheten) would move forward with a trial (especially one with such international notoriety as this) unless they were very certain of the events and also of the culpability of the people being charged. Rocky's lawyer appealed to the Swedish Supreme Court (Högsta domstolen, ie 'HD') and they refused to intervene after reviewing the evidence, so I am sure they have a solid case.

they did some damage



mercuryblues

(14,532 posts)
48. Swedish law is also different from American law
Fri Jul 26, 2019, 09:25 AM
Jul 2019

You are allowed to defend yourself, or another person. What you are not allowed to do is beat on a person after they are down. Which the police and prosecutors have determined that Rocky and his entourage did.

handmade34

(22,756 posts)
44. NO racists get a pass from me...
Fri Jul 26, 2019, 09:00 AM
Jul 2019

and violence does not get a pass from me

I have seen the video that ASAP Rocky's people put out and I have seen the videos of his crew throwing the man and starting to beat him... others here have posted more photos and the prosecutor in Sweden has said that there are many more videos and photos that the public has not seen...


I would bet that Trump has seen Rocky's video and that is all... Trump is merely trying to play to people of color and it should not be accepted...

Takket

(21,573 posts)
15. he takes more interest in a guy his friend asked him to get set free than he does kids in cages.
Thu Jul 25, 2019, 08:39 PM
Jul 2019

sick scumbag

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
16. Maybe Kanye West and Kim Kardashian West ...
Thu Jul 25, 2019, 08:46 PM
Jul 2019

Maybe Kanye West and Kim Kardashian West could ask Trump to
let the kids out of their cages?

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
20. There is something SO very fucking wrong with this
Thu Jul 25, 2019, 08:50 PM
Jul 2019

Somehow a brawl at a rap concert has become an international incident requiring direct intervention of the President and State Department while the Saudis can butcher an American reporter in their own consulate and he could give less than a shit...

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
23. "a brawl at a rap concert"
Thu Jul 25, 2019, 09:05 PM
Jul 2019

Actually it was a street fight outside a store or bar.
They were in Sweden for a concert, but this wasn't at the concert.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
32. Yeah, you can tell I haven't been caring enough to keep up
Thu Jul 25, 2019, 10:16 PM
Jul 2019

All I know based on the chatter I see on social media, which says Rocky (who is facing a sentence of one zillion years) is the worst kangaroo court victim since Alfred Dreyfus; the normally liberal and open-minded nation of Sweden has become a worse merciless police state than old Communist Romania and is more racist than 1950s Mississippi....

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,711 posts)
25. Why? He was legitimately accused of a crime
Thu Jul 25, 2019, 09:33 PM
Jul 2019

and if he's acquitted he'll go free. Why does he need to be set free before a fair adjudication instead of being tried?

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,711 posts)
39. That's not for me to say. That's for the Swedish judicial system to decide.
Thu Jul 25, 2019, 10:51 PM
Jul 2019

There may be other evidence. Just as in the US, he will be tried if there's evidence indicating that a crime may have been committed. Why not let the process continue? If there's insufficient evidence to convict him he'll be acquitted. Trump has no business interfering with the legitimate legal process of another country.

former9thward

(32,013 posts)
40. Really???
Thu Jul 25, 2019, 11:00 PM
Jul 2019

So I am sure you don't object when other countries arrest and try people whose civil rights are being violated. When gays are hung in Iran. After all we have "no business interfering with the legitimate legal process of another country.' Your words not mine. Or we can only interfere when you think the cause is ok? Sweden is an all white country and if you think the justice system for foreign blacks is ok that is naive at best...

handmade34

(22,756 posts)
46. there are tapes
Fri Jul 26, 2019, 09:08 AM
Jul 2019

you have not seen... and I have not seen, but I have seen the one where ASAP Rocky throws the guy across the street and it looks pretty violent to me... I try not to judge if I haven't seen all the evidence

Midnightwalk

(3,131 posts)
28. What about the moose???
Thu Jul 25, 2019, 10:08 PM
Jul 2019

If they have rocky locked up then where is bullwinkle?

Nothing good will come from this.

Free the moose!!!!

tblue37

(65,377 posts)
33. The moose is realli nasti, you know:
Thu Jul 25, 2019, 10:26 PM
Jul 2019
Wik
Also wik
Also also wik
Wi not trei a holiday in Sweeden this yer ?
See the loveli lakes
The wonderful telephone system
And mani interesting furry animals
Including the majestic moose
A moose once bit my sister...
No realli! She was Karving her initials on the moose with the sharpened end of an interspace toothbrush given her by Svenge—her brother-in-law— an Oslo dentist and star of many Norwegian movies: "The Hot Hands of an Oslo Dentist", "Fillings of Passion", "The Huge Molars of Horst Nordfink"...
Mynd you, moose bites Kan be pretti nasti...


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