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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhy are Democrats signing on to this fucking debt ceiling/budget bill?
Seriously. Debt exploding, and the only way it can pass is with Democratic support?
Look, here is what is going to happen. Retrumplicans are going to vote against it, and then, they are going to run using ads against Democrats who vote for it.
They do this shit all the time. LET THEM fucking pass the God Damned bill, or get blamed for it not passing.
Also, can someone please tell me this...
- Is Donnie Shit for Brains still separating infants and toddlers from their parents at the border?
- Is Donnie Shit for Brains still stealing $5.5B from the defense budget for a stupid fucking wall?
- Is Donnie Shit for Brains fully cooperating with Congressional investigations?
- Do we have Donnie Shit for Brains tax returns that have been lawfully requested and required to be turned over?
- Are racist, fascist unqualified Federalists Society fucksticks still being rubber stamped by 51 Senate votes to lifetime appointments to federal judgeships?
- Are unqualified dickwads still bypassing constitutionally mandated advise and consent requirements to fill bullshit "acting" positions that appear nowhere in the Founding documents of our country?
I could go on, but maybe it's better to ask...
Just what the fuck are Democrats getting out of these budget and debt ceiling "negotiations"...
I mean other than giving Retrumplicans talking points to use against them?
Just curious.
Maybe we did demand and get some of those things I mentioned above.
If Dems did get something for their support of this bill, they'd better get the fuck out and tell us how they fought and what concessions they got for this "gift" to the Retrumplicans.
underthematrix
(5,811 posts)This is past debt. NOT FUTURE DEBT.
still_one
(92,217 posts)maxrandb
(15,334 posts)It's also a two year budget deal through 2021.
Retrumplicans used every fucking tool in the toolbox, and quite a few that weren't.
I want Dems to fight with the same resolve.
msongs
(67,413 posts)PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,862 posts)How Donald Trump!
maxrandb
(15,334 posts)President Barack Obama's economy is the only fucking thing that is keeping Donnie Shit for Brains from being at 15% approval and being run out of town on a fucking rail.
I think Dems could at least go to Donnie Dollhands and say; you need this Debt ceiling raised? Give us your fucking tax returns.
You blew up the fucking debt with your fucked up tax cuts for the wealthy, you want the debt ceiling raised...we want the documents we've subpoenaed.
You need the debt ceiling lifted to pay for fucking tax cuts? We want the witnesses we've called before our committees.
Oh...and Mitch, you want our fucking votes for this, we want 60 votes required for federal judgeships.
Mitch, you want our votes for this, we want a vote on the Senate floor on election security and the minimum wage.
Do you doubt for one second the Retrumplicans wouldn't do that?
tritsofme
(17,379 posts)Good thing youre not in charge!
maxrandb
(15,334 posts)Not just give up any leverage we have for nothing.
I'd love to play poker with you.
tritsofme
(17,379 posts)that Republican brinkmanship could have triggered a financial crisis and dragged us back into recession.
The debt ceiling is not a bargaining chip, I prefer not playing with fire.
GulfCoast66
(11,949 posts)Republicans can never again be taken seriously as the party of fiscal responsibility. Which was always just a scam to cut social programs.
It passed the republican senate. Signed by a republican.
maxrandb
(15,334 posts)They'll compare how many Dems voted against it to how many Retrumplicans voted against it and will use that to hammer Dems.
GulfCoast66
(11,949 posts)The spinning is done.