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All this talk about immigration (Original Post) SHRED Jul 2019 OP
And always non-white immigrants. guillaumeb Jul 2019 #1
Truth! SHRED Jul 2019 #3
Bingo appalachiablue Jul 2019 #2
There are words. Igel Jul 2019 #4

Igel

(35,320 posts)
4. There are words.
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 11:23 PM
Jul 2019

But every time any tries to make it possible for every employer to do more than just check IDs and possibly file a photocopy of a fake ID as proof a person can be hired legally people pitch a fit and say, "No, you can't do that."

Which means that employers, if they hire illegally, have a fallback nearly all the time. The only time when the fallback doesn't work--"But I thought the documents were valid!"--is when they're obviously, grotesquely forged and it was more than some low-ranking HR person who knew about it, or when there's a clear pattern over time that shows that management either knew or failed to have appropriate procedures in place for upholding the law.

Now, the system exists, but there's no requirement to use it. Some employers do, and there's grumbling. It's not a perfect system, but in this case people explicitly want to the perfect to be the enemy of the good.

Yesterday they say the system must not be used because somebody, somewhere, might be denied work because of an error in the database. Today they say that there must be a way to punish employers, but have no idea what that would be except for harsh, punitive laws that don't take notice of mistakes or limitations in the system. There's clearly a desired system of privilege in that asymmetry.

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