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Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
Sun Aug 25, 2019, 09:02 PM Aug 2019

Trump goes off on Twitter rant about 'My Stock Market' at nearly 2 a.m. in France

Trump goes off on Twitter rant about ‘My Stock Market’ at nearly 2 a.m. in France



https://www.rawstory.com/2019/08/my-stock-market-trump-goes-off-on-twitter-rant-at-nearly-2-a-m-in-france/


President Donald Trump has an early morning meeting Monday with Egypt’s President Abdel-Fattah el-Sisi. He also has a full day of meeting with the G-7, but that wasn’t his focus in the early morning hours.

“My Stock Market gains must be judged from the day after the Election (sic), November 9, 2016, where the Market went up big after the win, and because of the win. Had my opponent won, CRASH!” Trump tweeted Sunday night in the U.S., which was nearly 2 a.m. in France where the president is staying during the G-7 summit.

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump

My Stock Market gains must be judged from the day after the Election, November 9, 2016, where the Market went up big after the win, and because of the win. Had my opponent won, CRASH!

7:30 PM · Aug 25, 2019·Twitter for iPhone


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Trump goes off on Twitter rant about 'My Stock Market' at nearly 2 a.m. in France (Original Post) Miles Archer Aug 2019 OP
Stfu Donnie. Monday's looking like another bloodbath. unblock Aug 2019 #1
Right elleng Aug 2019 #2
Are those the numbers from the day after Control-Z Aug 2019 #9
This past Friday. elleng Aug 2019 #10
He never said anything about anyone else's gains and if you invest based on a crash you can cstanleytech Aug 2019 #14
WTF are you ranting about, you idiot? smirkymonkey Aug 2019 #3
Again, it depends on your point of view. He did only say his gains he never said anything about cstanleytech Aug 2019 #15
"My Stock Market" is it? OK, Trumpty Dumpty. tanyev Aug 2019 #4
He doesnt know what stocks are, for real, he doesnt. Eliot Rosewater Aug 2019 #5
He has his tweet scheduled.. HipChick Aug 2019 #6
You don't need a Ph.D. in psychology The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2019 #7
A mighty asshole that never sleeps. TheCowsCameHome Aug 2019 #8
Nope kurtcagle Aug 2019 #11
+1. Thanks for this. yonder Aug 2019 #18
Thank you. As a slack-jawed, stuttering fundie once told me, Iterate Aug 2019 #20
Gawd, he's pathetic. 50 Shades Of Blue Aug 2019 #12
He owns this stock market.... Joe941 Aug 2019 #13
From the day he won to the day he was innaugurated Mr.Bill Aug 2019 #16
Clearly one of the biggest fucking assholes in human history. NRaleighLiberal Aug 2019 #17
That's the fallacy of the un-testable hypothesis, right? Captain Zero Aug 2019 #19

cstanleytech

(26,298 posts)
14. He never said anything about anyone else's gains and if you invest based on a crash you can
Sun Aug 25, 2019, 11:46 PM
Aug 2019

clean up especially if you have the ability to cause it.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
3. WTF are you ranting about, you idiot?
Sun Aug 25, 2019, 09:08 PM
Aug 2019

You are a disaster for the economy and the stock market. Your policies are causing a crash right now. It will only get worse.

cstanleytech

(26,298 posts)
15. Again, it depends on your point of view. He did only say his gains he never said anything about
Sun Aug 25, 2019, 11:49 PM
Aug 2019

other people's gains and if he invested based on the market crashing months ago then he could have made a killing thus he gained alot.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,735 posts)
7. You don't need a Ph.D. in psychology
Sun Aug 25, 2019, 09:14 PM
Aug 2019

to know exactly what's got Fat Nixon's knickers in a twist - it's whatever he's bragging about the most loudly at any particular instant.

kurtcagle

(1,604 posts)
11. Nope
Sun Aug 25, 2019, 09:52 PM
Aug 2019

Economists typically give the previous administration a weighting factor starting from inauguration day to a year thereafter, as it takes that long for incoming policy to really have an effect on the economy. After a year, a president fully owns the economy.

On Jan 20, 2017 DJIA was 19,827.
Market hit first peak on Jan 26, 2018 at 26,616.
Market has exceeded that peak twice times, 26,725 on Sept 21, 2018 and 27,312 on July 29, 2019, each before dropping back sharply.
Market's troughed at 22,445 on Dec. 12, 2018.

Indexes are not linear. The higher they go, the bigger a 1% increase becomes in index terms. Even giving him full credit from his inaugural day value, the stock market went up 37.7%.

For comparison, Obama started at 8,077 on Jan 23, 2009, the market would bottom at 7,365 a week later, and would peak at 19,827, for a whopping 169% increase over his presidency, with only a few wobbles over that period.

Investors who invested at any point in Obama's presidency would only have lost money once - the week after his inauguration. During his entire administration, the DJIA was increasing. In Trump's case, once the market peaked in Jan 2017, investors at that point would only have made money at that level if they cashed out on the two dates given above, making a grand total of about 0.8% and 2.5% return on investment (a window of about four days in nine hundred). The market has actually been range bound around 24,800 since the first SOTU.

I've heard a fair number of MAGAt types tell me that they made a lot of money from the Trump economy, but that has ONLY been due to volatility and a great deal of wishful thinking. During Obama, if you invested at any point, you made a decent return. With Trump, it's been about 50/50, which makes me suspect there are a lot of investors out there who lost money under Trump, though most people are much less likely to admit that.

I bring out these figures whenever I hear someone tell me how great the Trump economy has been. The response is usually sputtered indignation at first, but then they go home and look at their own investment portfolios, and I find they are a lot more subdued about the topic next time I talk with them.

Captain Zero

(6,811 posts)
19. That's the fallacy of the un-testable hypothesis, right?
Mon Aug 26, 2019, 02:46 AM
Aug 2019

Maybe it's called something else. (Market crash if HRC elected)

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