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G_j

(40,367 posts)
Mon Aug 26, 2019, 04:07 PM Aug 2019

"8 years of suffering under Barack Obama"

https://tericarter.wordpress.com/2017/07/10/8-years-of-suffering-under-obama/

The sentence I hear most from well-meaning, conservative friends since President Trump’s election is this: “We suffered 8 years under Barack Obama.”

Fair enough. Let’s take a look.

The day Obama took office, the Dow closed at 7,949 points. Eight years later, the Dow had almost tripled.

General Motors and Chrysler were on the brink of bankruptcy, with Ford not far behind, and their failure, along with their supply chains, would have meant the loss of millions of jobs. Obama pushed through a controversial, $8o billion bailout to save the car industry. The U.S. car industry survived, started making money again, and the entire $80 billion was paid back, with interest.

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"8 years of suffering under Barack Obama" (Original Post) G_j Aug 2019 OP
They are referring to having an African American President. Racists suffered, I guess. spanone Aug 2019 #1
Nailed it! sheshe2 Aug 2019 #3
That would be it, they had a Black man in the White House. redstatebluegirl Aug 2019 #4
Not only being a black president, but a darn good one too!!!!!!!! demigoddess Aug 2019 #27
That's right mcar Aug 2019 #16
That's it. yardwork Aug 2019 #18
That is exactly why. Obama had the temerity to be president while at the same time PatrickforO Aug 2019 #25
They are referring to seething with anger for eight years because a black man was brewens Aug 2019 #2
Yes it happened TWICE! FakeNoose Aug 2019 #8
+1000! Rhiannon12866 Aug 2019 #13
That is just the perfect summation! FiveGoodMen Aug 2019 #67
They should be asked 'Specifically HOW did you suffer,' elleng Aug 2019 #5
Or, Bob Loblaw Aug 2019 #35
First of all ... GeorgeGist Aug 2019 #6
for sure G_j Aug 2019 #7
They are 'suffering' because for 8 years COLGATE4 Aug 2019 #9
Precisely. 3catwoman3 Aug 2019 #21
Yep. And don't ever let them tell you differenty. COLGATE4 Aug 2019 #24
They never called him Mr. President cannabis_flower Aug 2019 #31
Yeah, those assholes called him insulting names COLGATE4 Aug 2019 #37
Ding! Ding! Ding! Winnah!!! Raster Aug 2019 #32
That is a good summary! treestar Aug 2019 #10
And because gay people could marry dawg day Aug 2019 #11
+1 Proud Liberal Dem Aug 2019 #14
Those really were the "Are you tired of winning" years Proud Liberal Dem Aug 2019 #12
Their suffering was caused by having to see a MAN as the POTUS that they did not vote for Ferrets are Cool Aug 2019 #15
That's got to be a FOX talking point. patphil Aug 2019 #17
The Dow sank a bit more over the first few months of Obama NewJeffCT Aug 2019 #19
When all you have is privilege, equality feels like oppression. Marcuse Aug 2019 #20
Well, that person certainly is a big stinking addition to PatrickforO Aug 2019 #26
if your friends say that, your friends are RACIST Skittles Aug 2019 #22
But..... SCantiGOP Aug 2019 #23
The 8 year long nightmare of peace, prosperity, and international respect Crunchy Frog Aug 2019 #28
if it wasn't for Obama people would have suffered even worse... throwthe_shoe Aug 2019 #29
+1 ffr Aug 2019 #30
I miss having a real POTUS Gothmog Aug 2019 #33
That sentence makes me sick. Obama stepped into an inferno. Obama is top 10 president. Pepsidog Aug 2019 #34
Suffered my ASS. Too damn bad. calimary Aug 2019 #68
I dont let that bullshit stand Cosmocat Aug 2019 #36
If President Obama in the white house is the equivalent to suffering, warmfeet Aug 2019 #38
Ethics aggiesal Aug 2019 #39
Governance aggiesal Aug 2019 #40
National Security aggiesal Aug 2019 #41
Iraq & Afghanistan aggiesal Aug 2019 #42
Military & Veterans aggiesal Aug 2019 #43
Foreign Policy aggiesal Aug 2019 #44
Economy aggiesal Aug 2019 #45
Taxes aggiesal Aug 2019 #46
Budgeting aggiesal Aug 2019 #47
Healthcare aggiesal Aug 2019 #48
Components of the Healthcare bill aggiesal Aug 2019 #49
Funding sources for the Healthcare Bill: aggiesal Aug 2019 #50
Miscellaneous: aggiesal Aug 2019 #51
Energy & Environment aggiesal Aug 2019 #52
Rights aggiesal Aug 2019 #53
Education aggiesal Aug 2019 #54
Disaster Response aggiesal Aug 2019 #55
Not only one of the 3 best prez of ALL time but the most bipartisan of all time perios Eliot Rosewater Aug 2019 #56
Components of the Disaster Responses: aggiesal Aug 2019 #57
Other Initiatives aggiesal Aug 2019 #58
P.S. In Case You Were Wondering ... aggiesal Aug 2019 #59
Whatabout Executive Orders, tan suit, arugula, golf, and the terrorist fist bump? Marcuse Aug 2019 #64
It amazes me how people vote ... aggiesal Aug 2019 #66
No amount of 'splainin' to deplorables will help. You can't fix stupid. onetexan Aug 2019 #60
Bank robbers continue to suffer under laws against their profession. gulliver Aug 2019 #61
K & R. ENTIRE Thread. Duppers Aug 2019 #62
Excellent points throughout thread. Bookmarked. PandoraAwakened Aug 2019 #63
I call those eight years... Ohiya Aug 2019 #65
I've heard that b.s. lament too lanlady Aug 2019 #69

redstatebluegirl

(12,265 posts)
4. That would be it, they had a Black man in the White House.
Mon Aug 26, 2019, 04:13 PM
Aug 2019

Not to mention he was smarter than most of them and the knew it.

PatrickforO

(14,577 posts)
25. That is exactly why. Obama had the temerity to be president while at the same time
Mon Aug 26, 2019, 05:57 PM
Aug 2019

being black.

Obama was a better-than-good, possibly great president. He really was. If you look at the whole 8 years he was in office, he accomplished some truly magnificent things.

Trump...well...I guess the best we can say is he's drizzled plenty of excrement all over the place. You might even get creative and say he dropped it on a fan. So it's hit the people, the constitution, the institutions we trust, the environment, the economy...

There really is nothing good about Trump. They say he's playing chess, but I don't buy it. The guy is a quasi literate imbecile who didn't even 'get' that Puerto Rico is part of this country. He wanted to buy Greenland.

Something about poop and fan blades for sure.

brewens

(13,596 posts)
2. They are referring to seething with anger for eight years because a black man was
Mon Aug 26, 2019, 04:09 PM
Aug 2019

elected President. That kind of hatred is hard on people but they do it to themselves.

FakeNoose

(32,645 posts)
8. Yes it happened TWICE!
Mon Aug 26, 2019, 04:21 PM
Aug 2019

LOL the fools can't admit Obama's were 8 great years. Would have been even better if Moscow Mitch hadn't been there messing Obama's plans up.



elleng

(130,974 posts)
5. They should be asked 'Specifically HOW did you suffer,'
Mon Aug 26, 2019, 04:14 PM
Aug 2019

make them spit it out. Ask politely, of course.

Bob Loblaw

(1,900 posts)
35. Or,
Mon Aug 26, 2019, 06:49 PM
Aug 2019

"How did you suffer?"

I think you could ask them five times, with the emphasis on each of the words in the question and they still wouldn't have a logical answer.

G_j

(40,367 posts)
7. for sure
Mon Aug 26, 2019, 04:21 PM
Aug 2019

Last edited Mon Aug 26, 2019, 10:41 PM - Edit history (1)

I nearly stopped reading at that one lame description.
Fortunately, the list of accomplishments is well laid out, and of course, impressive.

COLGATE4

(14,732 posts)
9. They are 'suffering' because for 8 years
Mon Aug 26, 2019, 04:21 PM
Aug 2019

they had to call a n----r "Mister President". They'll never get over it.

COLGATE4

(14,732 posts)
37. Yeah, those assholes called him insulting names
Mon Aug 26, 2019, 07:09 PM
Aug 2019

but the rest of the world and the sane Americans called him Mister President.

Raster

(20,998 posts)
32. Ding! Ding! Ding! Winnah!!!
Mon Aug 26, 2019, 06:40 PM
Aug 2019

And even worse, the Black Man won the office fair and square... he didn't need daddies friends and appointees to smooth his path. POTUS Obama was legally and lawfully elected, in fact, so much so that the Rethuglicans* couldn't throw either of his elections.

Fucking racist pieces of shit.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
10. That is a good summary!
Mon Aug 26, 2019, 04:27 PM
Aug 2019

Very good. All those things represent "suffering" to conservatives.

Or they "suffered" because a black man was President.

dawg day

(7,947 posts)
11. And because gay people could marry
Mon Aug 26, 2019, 04:31 PM
Aug 2019

And people could get health insurance.

That's what makes them suffer, others being happy and healthy.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,414 posts)
12. Those really were the "Are you tired of winning" years
Mon Aug 26, 2019, 04:31 PM
Aug 2019

We were more honored and respected by other countries, the economy was improving, lots of people got access to health insurance and, by extension, care that wasn't there for them before, and we had a President who very rarely got upset, didn't tweet out ugly and hurtful things, who was always gracious, intelligent, respectful, and tried to work with an opposition whose immediate reaction was to spit in his eye, even if doing so hurt the average person and whom broke so many political norms to keep their privileged status. It was really a good, safe time to be proud to be an American.

Ferrets are Cool

(21,107 posts)
15. Their suffering was caused by having to see a MAN as the POTUS that they did not vote for
Mon Aug 26, 2019, 04:35 PM
Aug 2019

and was African American AND most importantly, had a D behind his name.

patphil

(6,182 posts)
17. That's got to be a FOX talking point.
Mon Aug 26, 2019, 04:52 PM
Aug 2019

I have two brother-in-laws and their wives who told me the exact same thing, "We suffered for 8 years under Barack Obama".
They are all conservative Trump supporters.
The strange thing is that the two couples never talk to each other...long standing animosity.
So hearing this from first one couple and then a few months later from the other was prima facie evidence of FOX "programming".
And these people are all well-educated, supposedly intelligent adults with loads of life experience.
I guess they were telling me they were racists, but couldn't just come right out and say it.
So, they used the Obama Presidency and the Trump ascendancy as a "cover" for their deeply held racist beliefs.

Patrick Phillips

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
19. The Dow sank a bit more over the first few months of Obama
Mon Aug 26, 2019, 05:06 PM
Aug 2019

because Republicans blocked additional efforts to fix the economy. I think I calculated from the low point in March or April of 2009, the Dow just about tripled (2.99x)

So, Donny can start bragging about the stock market when it clears the 50,000 to 55,000 range

PatrickforO

(14,577 posts)
26. Well, that person certainly is a big stinking addition to
Mon Aug 26, 2019, 06:00 PM
Aug 2019

Clinton's 'basket of deplorables.'

No doubt there.

Crunchy Frog

(26,587 posts)
28. The 8 year long nightmare of peace, prosperity, and international respect
Mon Aug 26, 2019, 06:09 PM
Aug 2019

Is now over. They don't need to suffer anymore, at least until the current regime does something to completely screw them over.

 

throwthe_shoe

(26 posts)
29. if it wasn't for Obama people would have suffered even worse...
Mon Aug 26, 2019, 06:24 PM
Aug 2019

he saved many people from losing their homes and live's with his things he did to give help to people after the cons and the bankers raped everyone from bush's years of fucking the country for his own self interest... damn right he was a good prez..... trump on the other hand .. well lets just say that horse shit has a better thing to give this country than trump

ffr

(22,670 posts)
30. +1
Mon Aug 26, 2019, 06:35 PM
Aug 2019

Should be screamed out loud every day by every democrat until republis shut the fuck up and go back to the holes they crawled out from!!!

calimary

(81,322 posts)
68. Suffered my ASS. Too damn bad.
Tue Aug 27, 2019, 04:04 PM
Aug 2019

I drink your “suffering” and add extra hot fudge with whipped cream and a cherry on top!

May there be MORE.

warmfeet

(3,321 posts)
38. If President Obama in the white house is the equivalent to suffering,
Mon Aug 26, 2019, 07:12 PM
Aug 2019

I will take a few thousand years of that type of suffering. He cares about lives, and life in general. Unlike the asshole poseur who divides, breaks and generally fucks things up, with intent.

aggiesal

(8,918 posts)
39. Ethics
Mon Aug 26, 2019, 07:21 PM
Aug 2019

- Ordered the White House and all federal agencies to respect the Freedom of Information Act and overturned Bush-era limits on accessibility of federal documents (2009)
- Instructed all federal agencies to promote openness and transparency as much as possible (2009)
- Placed limits on lobbyists’ access to the White House (2009)
- Placed limits on White House aides working for lobbyists after their tenure in the administration (2009)
- Signed a measure strengthening registration and reporting requirements for lobbyists (2009)
- Ordered that lobbyists must be removed from and are no longer permitted to serve on federal and White House advisory panels and boards (2009) * Note: After saying he would not hire lobbyists, a few have been hired in the Administration
- Companies and individuals who are delinquent on their taxes or owe back taxes are no longer allowed to bid for federal contracts (2009)
- Initiated the “e-Rulemaking Initiative” (in cooperation with Cornell University) to allow for online public “notice and comment” of federal laws and initiatives (2010)
- Issued the “Open Gov Directive” ordering all Cabinet departments to promote transparency and citizen participation in their policies (2010)
- Signed extensions on banning lobbyists from serving on agency boards (2010)
- Developed the “Do Not Pay List” with data on contractors and recipients of federal funds who are deemed to be ineligible because of fraud and abuse (2010)

aggiesal

(8,918 posts)
40. Governance
Mon Aug 26, 2019, 07:23 PM
Aug 2019

- The White House website now provides information on all economic stimulus projects and spending, along with an unprecedented amount of information on our government (2009)
- Ended the Bush-era practice of circumventing established FDA rules for political reasons (2009)
- Ended the Bush-era practice of having White House staff rewrite the findings of scientific and environmental regulations and reports when they disagreed with the results (2009)
- Limited the salaries of senior White House aides (salaries cut to $100,000) (2009)
- Has urged Congress to adopt “Pay-Go” (whereby each dollar of spending is offset by a dollar in cuts or revenues, which was used in the `90s but abandoned in the `00s) (2010)
- Has been holding open meetings with Republican leaders, although they complain of a lack of access and information (2010)
- Signed the Improper Payments Elimination and Recovery Act (2010) * Note: To curb wasteful spending
- Tasked federal agencies to develop plans for disposing of unneeded real estate and then to eliminate unnecessary or non-economical lands, properties, etc. (2010)

aggiesal

(8,918 posts)
41. National Security
Mon Aug 26, 2019, 07:24 PM
Aug 2019

- Phasing out the expensive F-22 war plane (which wasn’t even used in Iraq/Afghanistan) and other outdated weapons systems (2009)
- Announced his intention to close the detention facility at Guantanamo Bay (2009) * Note: The closure has been delayed due to massive opposition but it remains on the agenda.
- Stated his interest in housing terrorists at a new federal “super max” facility in the US (2009) * Note: this has been delayed in the face of massive opposition but it remains on the agenda
- Cut the expensive Reagan era missile defense program, saving $1.4 billion in 2010 (2009)
- Cancelled plans to station anti-ballistic missile systems in Poland and the Czech Republic (2009)
- Replacing long-range, expensive missile systems with more efficient smaller systems (2009)
- Increased US Navy patrols off the Somali coast in response to pirating (2009)
- Established a new cyber security office and appointed a cyber security czar (2009)
- Ordered the first nation-wide comprehensive cyber threat assessment (2009)
- Instituted a new Nuclear Posture Review, revising US nuclear deterrence policy to encourage more nations to join the 1996 Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty (2010) * Note: Components of the policy include: a pledge to stop nuclear testing; a pledge to not build a new generation of nucs; identifying nuclear terrorism, rather than a launch from another nuclear state, as the major threat; a pledge to not use nucs on a non-nuclear state in a conventional conflict; etc.
- Executive orders to block payment, transfers, exports, etc… of individuals and organizations support the regimes of North Korea, Iran, Somali pirates, and other foreign threats (2010)
- Presidential Memoranda to extend certain provisions of The Trading with Enemies Act which was to expire in September 2010 (2010) * Note: This includes freezing assets and banning trade that benefits the Cuban regime; however further efforts at normalizing travel to Cuba are supported
- Signed bill for southwest border security and increased funds and agents on the Mexican border (2010)
- Signed the Comprehensive Sanctions, Accountability and Divestment Act to deal with foreign regimes like Iran and North Korea (2010)

aggiesal

(8,918 posts)
42. Iraq & Afghanistan
Mon Aug 26, 2019, 07:25 PM
Aug 2019

- Began the phased withdrawal of US troops from Iraq (2009); continuing the withdrawal (2010)
- Changed the US military command in the Afghan conflict (2009)
- Tasked the Pentagon to reorganize US policy in Afghanistan; the new policy includes 30,000 additional troops deployed, priority training of Afghan forces, developing agriculture and infrastructure, limiting aerial bombing, etc. (2009)
- Ordered the Pentagon to send additional helicopters to assist US Marine units and Special Forces in Afghanistan (2009)
- Increased unmanned drone strikes on Taliban and al-Qaeda targets in Afghanistan (2009)
- Ended the Bush-era “stop-loss” policy that kept soldiers in Iraq/Afghanistan longer than their enlistment date (2009)

aggiesal

(8,918 posts)
43. Military & Veterans
Mon Aug 26, 2019, 07:26 PM
Aug 2019

- Ordered the Pentagon to cover expenses of families of fallen soldiers if they wish to be on site when the body arrives back in the US (2009)
- Ended the Bush-era “blackout” imposed on media coverage of the return of fallen US soldiers (2009) * Note: The media is now permitted to cover the story pending adherence to respectful rules and with the approval of the fallen soldier’s family
- Ended the Bush-era “black out” policy on media coverage of war casualties (2009) * Note: Full information is now released for the first time in the War on Terror
- Ordered better body armor to be procured for US troops (2009)
- Funding new Mine Resistant Ambush Vehicles (2009) * Note: The old Hummers were very vulnerable to roadside explosives and an alarming percentage of our soldiers lost in Iraq were on account of IEDs
- Working to increase pay and benefits for military personnel (2009)
- Improving housing for military personnel (2009)
- Initiating a new policy to promote federal hiring of military spouses (2009)
- Ordered that conditions at Walter Reed Military Hospital and other neglected military hospitals be improved (2009)
- Beginning the process of reforming and restructuring the military to a post-Cold War, modern fighting force (2009) * Note: Bush announced in 2001 his intention to do this but backed off the reforms after 9/11, which include: new procurement policies; increasing the size of Special Ops units; deploying new technologies; creating new cyber security units; etc.
- Ended the Bush-era practice of awarding “no-bid” defense contracts (2009)
- Improving benefits for veterans as well as VA staffing, information systems, etc. (2009)
- Authorized construction of additional health centers to care for veterans (2009)
- Suspended the Bush-era decision to purchase a fleet of Marine One helicopters from suppliers in favor of American made helicopters (2009)
- Ordered a review of the existing “Don’t ask, don’t tell” policy on gays in the military (2010)
- New GI Bill for returning veterans from Iraq and Afghanistan (2009)
- Signed bill providing assistance for caregivers of veterans wounded in Iraq and Afghanistan (2010) * Note: The omnibus bill does the following: Training, funding, and counseling for caregivers; promoting pilot childcare programs for women vets under treatment at the VA; independent oversight to prevent abuse; readjustment counseling for National Guard and reservist units; etc.
- Eliminated co-payments for veterans who are catastrophically disabled (2010)
- Fulfilled campaign promise to have combat troops (90,000) out of Iraq by August 31, 2010 (2010)
- Established a new interagency task force to assist veterans owning small businesses (2010) * Note: The efforts include promoting federal contract opportunities, improve access to loans and capital, mentor assistance programs, etc.
- Signed The Families of Fallen Heroes Act, which covers the moving costs of immediate family members of those lost in service (military, intelligence, and security personnel) (2010)

aggiesal

(8,918 posts)
44. Foreign Policy
Mon Aug 26, 2019, 07:27 PM
Aug 2019

- Closed the Bush-era “secret detention” facilities in Eastern Europe (2009)
- Ended the Bush-era policy allowing “enhanced interrogation” (torture); the US is again in compliance with Geneva Convention standards (2009) * Note: Obama has permitted some controversial interrogation techniques to continue
- Restarted international nuclear non-proliferation talks and reestablished international nuclear inspection protocols (2009) * Note: Bush withdrew from non-proliferation talks and dismantled the inspection infrastructure
- Reengaged in the treaties/agreements to protect the Antarctic (2009) * Note: These were suspended under Bush
- Reengaged in the agreements/talks on global warming and greenhouse gas emissions (2009) * Note: These were suspended under Bush
- Visited more countries and met with more world leaders than any president in his first six months in office (2009)
- Banned the export of cluster bombs (2009)
- Overturned Bush-era plans to increase the US nuclear arsenal (2009)
- Authorized the Navy SEALS operation that freed by force the US shipping captain held by Somali pirates (2009)
- Restored the US commitment to the UN population fund for family planning; overturned the ban on providing funds internationally for family planning (2009) * Note: The family planning efforts were suspended under Bush
- Instituted a new policy on Cuba, allowing Cuban families to return “home” to visit families (2009)
- Extended an offer of engagement (free from sanctions and penalties) to Iran through December 31, 2009 (Iran did not accept the offer) (2009)
- Sent envoys to the Middle East and other parts of the world, reengaging in multilateral and bilateral talks and diplomacy (2009)
- Authorized discussions with North Korea and the private mission by former president, Bill Clinton, to secure the release of two Americans held in prisons (2009)
- Authorized discussions with Myanmar and the mission by Senator Jim Web to secure the release of an American held captive (2009)
- Renewed loan guarantees for Israel (2009)
- Signed the USIFTA trade agreement with/for Israel (2009)
- Authorized a $550m advance for Israel (six months prior to the scheduled date) in order to accommodate Israeli’s economic and financial needs (2009)
- Continued agreements with Israel for cultural exchanges, immigration, etc. (2009)
- Spoke on Arab television, spoke at an Egyptian university, and met with Arab leaders in an effort to change the tone of US-Arab relations (2009)
- Ordered the US to finally pay its dues to the United Nations (2009)
- Attended the Summit of America’s meeting in Trinidad and Tobago (2010)
- Invited the Israeli Prime Minister to Washington; met with him (2010)
- Dispatched several envoys and initiated talks with numerous nations (2010)
- Signed a nuclear limitation treaty with Russia (2010) * Note: The agreement calls for both countries to reduce their nucs by one-third (1,500) and launch systems by half (800)
- Hosted nuclear non-proliferation summit for several nations (2010)
- Executive Order to establish support offices in the State Department to assist the governments of Pakistan and Afghanistan (2010)
- Presidential Memoranda to continue drug interdiction support with Columbia (2010)

aggiesal

(8,918 posts)
45. Economy
Mon Aug 26, 2019, 07:28 PM
Aug 2019

- Increased infrastructure spending (roads, bridges, power plants…) (2009) * Note: Bush was the first president since Herbert Hoover to not make infrastructure a priority
- Authorized the US auto industry rescue plan and two GMAC rescue packages (2009)
- Authorized the housing rescue plan and new FHA residential housing guarantees (2009)
- Authorized a $789 billion economic stimulus plan (2009) * Note: 1/3 in tax cuts for working-class families; 1/3 to states for infrastructure projects; 1/3 to states to prevent the layoff of police officers, teachers, etc. at risk of losing their jobs because of state budget shortfalls
- Instituted a new rule allowing the public to meet with federal housing insurers to refinance (in as quickly as one day) a mortgage if they are having trouble paying (2009)
- Authorized a continuation of the US financial and banking rescue plans initiated at the end of the Bush administration and authorized TARP funds to buy “toxic assets” from failing financial institutions (2009)
- Authorized the “Cash for Clunkers” program that stimulated auto sales and removed old, inefficient, polluting cars from the road (2009)
- Convened a “jobs summit” to bring experts together to develop ideas for creating jobs (2009)
- Ordered the FDIC to beef up deposit insurance (2009)
- Ended the Bush-era policy of protecting credit card companies (2009) * Note: In place of the old policy, new consumer protections were instituted and the industry’s predatory practices were banned
- Authorized the federal government to make more loans available to small businesses and ordered lower rates for federal loans to small businesses (2009)
- Placed a 35% tariff on Chinese tires and a few other products such as pipes after China was found to be illegally “dumping” exports below cost (2009) * Note: Clinton, Bush I, and Reagan all refused to “get tough” on China’s predatory trade practices; Bush II refused four times during his presidency
- In November 2009, Obama extended unemployment benefits for one million workers and expanded coverage for some existing homeowners who are buying again (2009)
- Called on Congress to deliver a “Jobs bill” (2010)
- Credit card companies are prohibited from raising rates without advance notification or arbitrarily if customers are paying bills on time (2010)
- Signed a bill to extend unemployment benefits set to expire (2010)
- Signed historic Wall Street reform bill (2010) * Note: Designed to reregulate and end abusive practices and promote consumer protections
- Signed the HIRE Act to stimulate the economic recovery (2010) * Note: The bill includes: tax cuts for small businesses who hire someone unemployed for at least two months; small businesses can write off their investments in equipment this year; etc.
- National Export Initiative established to enhance federal support (technical assistance, training, trade missions, etc.) and coordination efforts to help US businesses export products and services (2010)
- Initiatives to promote a “Wireless Broadband Revolution” (2010) * Note: Among other things, broadband is finally being considered as necessary infrastructure, with efforts to expand use, access, and spectrum…
- Expanded agricultural credit to farmers during current economic crisis (2010)
- Signed bill – US Manufacturing Enhancement Act (2010)
- Signed bill – Single Family Housing Mortgage Insurance (2010)

aggiesal

(8,918 posts)
46. Taxes
Mon Aug 26, 2019, 07:28 PM
Aug 2019

- Negotiated a deal with Swiss banks to permit the US government to gain access to records of tax evaders and criminals (2009)
- Ended the Bush-era policy of offering tax benefits to corporations who outsource American jobs (2009) * Note: The new policy promotes in-sourcing investments to brings jobs back to the US
- Signed the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act which provides small tax cuts for 95% of “working families” (2009) * Note: The tax cuts were not as big as was suggested during the 2008 campaign
- Convened an advisory board that is looking into simplifying the tax code (2009)
- Ordered the closing of offshore tax safe havens (for individual and business tax evaders) (2009)
- Reduced taxes for some small businesses to stimulate the economic recovery (2009)
- Extended the Home Buyers Credit for first-time home buyers (2009)
- Proposed doubling the child tax credit (2010)
- Called for the repeal of the capital gains tax for small businesses (2010)
- Proposed rolling back the 2001 and 2003 Bush tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans (2010) * Note: This would be for families earning over $250,000/year and would return their tax rates to the 1990’s level

aggiesal

(8,918 posts)
47. Budgeting
Mon Aug 26, 2019, 07:29 PM
Aug 2019

- Ordered all federal agencies to undertake a study and make recommendations for ways to cut federal spending (2009)
- Ordered a review of all federal operations to identify wasteful spending and practices (2009)
- Established a National Performance Officer charged with saving the federal government money and making federal operations more efficient (2009)
- Overturned the Bush-era practice of not listing certain federal programs in the federal budget (2009) (2010) * Note: Bush did this (so did Reagan) in an effort to hide programs and make the budget look smaller; such “off budget” items are now included in the annual budget
- Full appropriations for war are now included in the budget (2009) (2010) * Note: Bush did not list many of the appropriations for Iraq, Afghanistan, and War on Terror
- Funds for emergency appropriations are now included in the budget (2009) (2010)
- Proposed a three-year freeze on federal discretionary spending beginning in 2011 (2010)
- Is in the process of cutting 120 federal programs identified as either wasteful or unnecessary (2010)
- Established a bipartisan commission on fiscal responsibility, staffed by House and Senate members and private citizens, tasked with submitting proposals to balance the budget (2010) * Note: In the face of Republican opposition, the powers of the commission were watered down
- Established a bipartisan commission on the future of Social Security, tasked with submitting proposals to preserve and strengthen Social Security (2010) * Note: In the face of Republican opposition, the powers of the commission were watered down
- Cut $20 billion from federal budget and has pledged to cut at least this much every year (2010)
- Ultimately decided to cancel planned new presidential helicopter fleet and stick with marine One (2010)
- Freezing all discretionary spending for next three years, except on national security (2010)
- Presidential Memoranda to freeze discretionary awards, bonuses, etc. for federal political appointees (2010)
- Beginning to use “Pay-As-You-Go” (Pay-Go) to offset budget expenditures with budget cuts or revenue enhancements (2010)

aggiesal

(8,918 posts)
48. Healthcare
Mon Aug 26, 2019, 07:29 PM
Aug 2019

- Removed Bush era restrictions on embryonic stem-cell research (2009)
- Federal support for stem-cell and new biomedical research (2009)
- Expanded the SCHIP program to cover health care for 4 million more children (2009)
- Established an independent commission to make recommendations on slowing the costs of Medicare (2009)
- Reversed some of the Bush-era restrictions that prevented Medicare from negotiating with pharmaceutical firms for cheaper drugs, allowing government to again competitively bid (2009) * Note: Obama had promised to lift all restrictions but, while he did negotiate with drug companies for them to lower their costs the deal only lifted some restrictions
- Expanding government vaccination programs (2009)
- Issued new disease prevention guidelines and priorities for the CDC (2009)
- Authorized the FDA to finally begin regulating tobacco (2009)
- Tasked federal labs to prioritize research on and deployment of H1N1 vaccines (2009)
- Asked multiple congressional committees to bring forward a healthcare reform bill; held dozens of public hearings and town halls on the issue (2009) (2010)
- Established a new council on National Prevention, Health Promotion, and Public Health to be chaired by Surgeon General and charged with promoting healthy lifestyles and integrative healthcare (2010)
- When accusations to the contrary arose, an Executive Order was signed to reaffirm that federal funds are not to be used for abortion services (2010)
- Historic healthcare reform bill signed – $940 billion over 10 years (2010) * Note: 32 million additional Americans will receive healthcare coverage and costs will be lowered for most Americans, but many of the goals are phased in over four years

aggiesal

(8,918 posts)
49. Components of the Healthcare bill
Mon Aug 26, 2019, 07:30 PM
Aug 2019

Components of the bill
- Prevents insurance companies from denying coverage to individuals/family members with pre-existing health conditions; a temporary plan is being developed to cover high-risk individuals with pre-existing conditions until the full reforms go into effect in 2014
- Prevents insurance companies from placing lifetime limits on benefits
- Bans “rescission” so insurance companies can’t cancel coverage if individuals keep their policies current or if they become ill
- An individual’s out-of-pocket healthcare expenses are capped
- Closes the “donut hole” (Part D) for Medicare prescription drug coverage (under Bush, Medicare helped pay for drugs up to $2,600 and above $4,550, but individuals had to pay 100% of the costs in between these amounts); now Medicare helps cover costs irrespective of the amount – seniors will now pay only 25% of drug costs up to $4,550 and only 5% of drug costs above that amount
- In 2010, an emergency provision will offer seniors a $250 rebate on the costs incurred within the “donut hole”
- Individuals living at or below the poverty line were eligible for healthcare under Medicaid, but by 2014 individuals/families living slightly above (making up to $14,404/$29,327) the poverty line will also be eligible for benefits
- Individuals/families making less than $43,320/$88,200 per year will qualify for government subsidies to help purchase health insurance
- All individuals must have health insurance or face a government fine; all large (over 50 employees) employers must offer health insurance to employees or pay a fine
- Small businesses can get a tax credit if they offer health care
- There are hardship exemptions if individuals can’t afford health insurance
- Families can keep their children in college on their plans through age 26
- Promotes health insurance “exchanges” so consumers can buy “wholesale”
- Creates consumer assistance offices to help consumers file complaints or appeal decisions from insurance companies; beginning in 2011, insurance companies can no longer make excessive rate hikes without justification and approval, and those doing so may be barred from participating in new health insurance exchanges

aggiesal

(8,918 posts)
50. Funding sources for the Healthcare Bill:
Mon Aug 26, 2019, 07:30 PM
Aug 2019

- Large employers (over 50 workers) that don’t offer health benefits will be charged a $2,000/worker fee; if the employer offers coverage but employees instead purchase federally subsidized insurance the fee is $3,000/worker receiving federal subsidies or $750/worker (whichever is lower)
- Annual fees on pharmaceutical companies ($27 billion), health insurance companies ($60 billion), and medical device-makers ($20 billion)
- Annual penalties on individuals who do not have health insurance (up to a maximum of $695/person)
- Increase in the Medicare payroll tax from 1.45% to 2.35% for individuals making $200,000+ and families making $250,000+
- 3.8% tax on unearned income for millionaires
- Insurance companies will be subject to a tax on each high-end insurance plan (so-called “Cadillac” plans) they offer

aggiesal

(8,918 posts)
51. Miscellaneous:
Mon Aug 26, 2019, 07:31 PM
Aug 2019

- Illegal immigrants are not eligible for insurance or subsidies
- By Executive Order, such federal funding can’t be used for abortion
- The federal government will assist states by covering all of the increased expenses of expanding Medicaid coverage (90% of costs after 2020)

aggiesal

(8,918 posts)
52. Energy & Environment
Mon Aug 26, 2019, 07:32 PM
Aug 2019

- Removed a ruling that now allows individual states to enact automotive fuel efficiency standards above federal standards (2009)
- Offered attractive tax write-offs for those who buy hybrid automobiles (2009)
- Overturned Bush-era rule that weakened the Endangered Species Act (2009)
- Announced plans to purchase fuel efficient American-made fleet for the federal government (2009)
- Ended the Bush-era policy of not regulating and labeling carbon dioxide emissions (2009)
- Signed a measure requiring energy producing plants to begin producing 15% of their energy from renewable sources (2009)
- Announced that the federal government would reengage in the long-delayed effort to clean up “Superfund” toxic waste sites (2009)
- Announced the long-term development of a national energy grid with renewable sources and cleaner, efficient energy production (2009) * Note: Much of Obama’s energy reform was killed by Senate Republicans
- Proposed a new refuge for wild mustangs (2009)
- Cancelled several Bush-era mountain-top removal and mining permits (2009)
- Reengaged in international treaties and agreements to protect the Antarctic (2009) * Note: Bush had withdrawn from such efforts
- Asked Congress for an energy reform and “cap and trade” bill (2009) * Note: The Congress failed to pass such a bill
- Developing plan to lease US coastal waters for wind and water-current energy production (2009)
- Overturned Bush-era policies that allowed uranium mining near national parks such as the Grand Canyon (2009)
- Expanded the Petrified Forest National Park (2009)
- Signed the Omnibus Public Lands Management Act that protects millions of acres of scenic, historic, and recreational lands and trails (2009)
- Requiring that government buildings and facilities be retrofitted to save energy costs (2009) * Note: These green retrofits are moving very slowly
- Authorized studies in several western states to determine how to support large-scale solar installations (2009)
- Attended the Copenhagen talks and, after the talks were stalled, negotiated an international (voluntary) agreement on reducing carbon emissions and raising funds to assist developing nations in offsetting carbon emissions (2009)
- Banned importation of pythons in response to a growing population of pythons damaging the Florida Everglades (2009)
- Committing the federal government to increasing research and use of renewable, clean energy sources such as wind, biomass, etc. (2009)
- Executive orders establishing a federal initiative to reduce greenhouse gas emissions in all federal operations (2009) (2010)
- Called for exploring the possibility of additional off-shore oil drilling in the Gulf, Atlantic, and off Alaska (but not in ANWR) (2010)
- Agreed to consider increases in nuclear energy production and requested a study on the feasibility of nuclear power plant construction (2010) * Note: Nearly all energy initiatives were defeated by Republican opposition in Congress
- Increased investment in clean energy projects (2010)
- Executive Order to develop a new strategy for and commitment to ocean and lake resources, and for scientific research on water quality (2010)

aggiesal

(8,918 posts)
53. Rights
Mon Aug 26, 2019, 07:32 PM
Aug 2019

- Instituted enforcements for equal pay for women (Lilly Ledbetter Bill) (2009)
- Appointed Sonia Sotomayor, the first Latina, to the Supreme Court (2009)
- Held the first Seder in White House (2009)
- Appointed a diverse Cabinet and diverse White House staff (2009)
- Spoke at the annual dinner of the Human Rights Campaign, a gay rights organization (2009)
- Signed the first major piece of federal gay rights legislation that includes acts of violence against gays under the list of federal hate crimes (2009)
- Reversed the Bush-era practice of politicizing Justice Department investigations and prosecutions against political opponents (2009)
- Pushing for some of the 9/11 perpetrators to be tried in federal court (2009) * Note: The process has moved at a snail’s pace and, in the face of opposition, Obama has remained quiet
- Signed an extension of the Ryan White HIV/AIDS Treatment Bill to provide federal research and support for treating the disease (2009)
- Allowed the State Department of offer same-sex benefits for employees (2009)
- Proposed that the Pentagon repeal the “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” policy; placed a “freeze” on current efforts to remove alleged homosexuals from the military (2009)
- After eight years of neglect, the Justice Department and EEOC are again enforcing employment discrimination laws (2009)
- Convened the White House Tribal Nations Conference, inviting representatives from 564 federally-recognized Indian tribes (2009)
- Provided increased school projects for Indian lands and increased funds for the Indian Health Service (2009)
- Signed an Executive Order mandating that his Cabinet develop plans to work with and consult Indian tribes on issues impacting Indian lands (2009)
- Commissioned a study to develop alternatives to “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” (2010)
- Called for federal agencies to look into recognizing gay partnerships in terms of benefits (2010)
- Signed an Executive Order for the President’s Initiative on Historically Black Colleges and Universities (2010)
- Increased funding for Historically Black Colleges and Universities (2010)
- Signed Executive Order to promote the federal government as a “model employer” when it comes to hiring the disabled (2010) * Note: This includes new efforts to increase the recruitment, hiring, and training for the disabled
- Programs to assist Spanish speakers with the US Census (2010)
- Elena Kagen appointed to Supreme Court (2010)
- Tasked all federal agencies to develop new strategies to address HIV/AIDS (2010)
- After organizing studies on the topic in 2009, tasked the Pentagon to eliminate “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” (2010)
- Signed Fair Sentencing Act (2010) * Note: The Administration continues to deescalate marijuana interdiction and raids; increased dramatically the amount of cocaine one must possess to be sentenced to jail; eliminated mandatory sentencing for first-time drug abusers and simple possession

aggiesal

(8,918 posts)
54. Education
Mon Aug 26, 2019, 07:33 PM
Aug 2019

- Authorized construction funds for high-speed, broadband Internet access in K-12 public schools (2009)
- Increased funding for school construction (2009)
- Increased funding available for student loans (2009)
- Expanded the national youth service program (2009)
- Streamlined the federal student loan process to save $87 billion over the next 10 years (2009)
- Changed the rule to allow students struggling to make college loan payments to refinance their loans (2009)
- Beginning discussions with Congress for education reform (2009) * Note: Much of Obama’s education reform has been sidelined by opposition in Congress
- Initiated a “Race to the Top” competitive federal grant program for states who develop innovative policies (2009)
- Instituted a “judgment review” allowing families with student loans to petition to have their current financial status determine the loan rather than the previous year’s finances (2009)
- Launched “Educate to Innovate,” a public/private partnership making $236 million available for science, mathematics, and technology education programs (2009)
- Proposed capping the maximum amount students must pay on student loans (as percentage of their income) (2010)
- Proposed reducing student loan obligations for individuals going to work in community and public service jobs (2010)
- The federal government will offer direct student loans, cutting out the cost of private banks (“middle man”) who increase the costs in order to make a profit (2010)
- Increased investment in technologies for schools/education (2010)

aggiesal

(8,918 posts)
55. Disaster Response
Mon Aug 26, 2019, 07:33 PM
Aug 2019

- Ordered a review of hurricane and natural disaster preparedness (2009)
- FEMA once again reports directly to the president (2009) * Note: Bush removed FEMA (prior to the Hurricane Katrina disaster) from this status
- Demonstrated an immediate and efficient response to the floods in North Dakota and other natural disasters (2009)
- Ordered that funds be released and red tape be streamlined for the ongoing Hurricane Katrina recovery effort in the Gulf Coast (2009)
- Timely and massive relief effort in response to the January 2010 earthquake and ensuing humanitarian crisis (2010)

Eliot Rosewater

(31,112 posts)
56. Not only one of the 3 best prez of ALL time but the most bipartisan of all time perios
Mon Aug 26, 2019, 07:33 PM
Aug 2019

GOP are punks

little crybaby punks

aggiesal

(8,918 posts)
57. Components of the Disaster Responses:
Mon Aug 26, 2019, 07:34 PM
Aug 2019

- The FBI’s National Center for Disaster Fraud was tasked to look into possible fraud with organizations soliciting funds for relief
- Announced the Clinton-Bush Haiti Fund
- Established an emergency Haiti Task Force in the State Department
- Established a website with information, resources, and a posting of a “person finder” online to help families and friends to locate loved ones
- Joint aid and relief planning with the U.K.
- Sponsored a resolution in the UN Security Council for additional security and police forces in Haiti
- Dispatched the US Navy floating hospital (USNS Comfort) and, within 5 days, 9 naval and relief ships, 5 Coast Guard cutters, 8 Coast Guard aircraft, and 12,000 US military personnel
- Initial dispatch of several ships and cargo planes full of humanitarian aid and supplies, 6 search/rescue teams (500 personnel), and 265 Department of Health & Human Services personnel for emergency medical and aid support
- Established a mobile US air traffic control center at the destroyed airport in Port-au-Prince
- After the BP Deepwater Horizon oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico, a freeze was placed on new deep water projects (2010)
- Executive Order to establish new security measures to minimize accidental release of bio and chemical agents; new strategies for public health and bioterrorism response (2010)
- Established a national commission on the BP Deepwater Horizon spill to examine facts and report a plan of action; new efforts to prevent offshore spills (2010)
- After a slow start in responding to the BP Deepwater Horizon oil spill, the White House is promoting a long-term plan to reconstruct the damaged Gulf and negotiated with BP the establishment of a multi-billion dollar trust fund for victims of the spill (2010)
- Extended national flood insurance program for those in need during current economic crisis (2010)

aggiesal

(8,918 posts)
58. Other Initiatives
Mon Aug 26, 2019, 07:34 PM
Aug 2019

- New federal funding for science and research labs (2009)
- Signed national service legislation; expanded national youth service program (2009)
- Increasing opportunities in AmeriCorps program (2009)
- Instituted a new focus on mortgage fraud (2009)
- Ordered the DEA to stop raids on medical marijuana usage (2009)
- Ordered a review of existing “mandatory minimum” prison sentencing (2009)
- Signed an order to limit airport tarmac delays and the time passengers had to sit in the plane/on the tarmac during delays (2009)
- Restored the EPA to “Cabinet level” status (2009) * Note: Bush removed the EPA from this status
- Beginning discussions with Congress for comprehensive immigration reform (2010) * Note: Much of Obama’s immigration reform had been stalled by opposition in Congress
- Commissioned expert panels and reports from NASA; announced a new direction for human space flight that involves funding a new heavy lift-launcher and jettisoning the Ares 1 program; boosting NASA’s budget by $1 billion in 2011 (2010)
- Ordered a ban on text-messaging for all commercial truck and bus drivers (2010)
- Signed bill – FAA Air Transportation Modernization and Safety Improvement Act (2010)

aggiesal

(8,918 posts)
59. P.S. In Case You Were Wondering ...
Mon Aug 26, 2019, 07:35 PM
Aug 2019

- The Obamas paid for the renovations of the private living quarters in the White House with their own money rather than using the funds provided to all new first families (2009)
- The Obamas reused many Christmas ornaments from previous White House trees rather than buy new ones (2009)
- The Obamas used LED energy-saving lights on White House Christmas tree (2009)
- Awarded the Nobel Peace Prize; donated the award money for the prize to several charities (2009)
- Planted a garden for the White House’s vegetables and flowers (2009)
- Installed a swing set/playground for the Obama daughters and children of White House employees (2009)
- Held over 150 public town halls, press conferences, interviews, etc. in first year in office (2009) * Note: Official numbers are not available on such things, but this seems to be a new record high
- Less than 30 days of vacation in first year in office (2009) * Note: Official numbers are not readily available on such things, but this seems to be a new record low
- …And A Family Man!!!

aggiesal

(8,918 posts)
66. It amazes me how people vote ...
Tue Aug 27, 2019, 11:19 AM
Aug 2019

for liberal ballot measures, but then elect politicians that would
never allow those same ballot measures to become law.

onetexan

(13,043 posts)
60. No amount of 'splainin' to deplorables will help. You can't fix stupid.
Mon Aug 26, 2019, 07:53 PM
Aug 2019

And regarding the educated conservatives who believe in the nonsense, their WASP upbringing has conditioned and hardened them to discriminate against people of color. They seethe over the fact there could be a person of color such as Obama who was elected to the highest office in the land by the majority. Not only that, to have a highly successful scandal-free 2 terms in office, and now out of office be able to reap the monetary rewards of that success. That's the kind of errant white privilege values that underpin their bigoted views, which in turn drive their hateful, violent mob behavior.

gulliver

(13,186 posts)
61. Bank robbers continue to suffer under laws against their profession.
Mon Aug 26, 2019, 07:56 PM
Aug 2019

Sadists report less satisfaction with life whenever other people report more...

Need to check these folks who say they suffered under Obama. Maybe they suffered because Obama was good and they aren't. Not saying that's your "conservative friends" case, but that's going to be some of the cases.

lanlady

(7,134 posts)
69. I've heard that b.s. lament too
Tue Aug 27, 2019, 04:33 PM
Aug 2019

--from at least two Republican acquaintances who would have absolutely no health care without Obamacare. Both are too lazy to work; one lives off her ex-husband's alimony checks, the other gets a monthly stipend from her boyfriend and also collects disability.

They suffered so so SO much under Obama and now are forced to pay those "exorbitant" premiums for Obamacare. Never mind pointing out the obvious to them; they just roll their eyes when confronted with facts.

If Trump ever does succeed in taking away their health coverage and the disability checks, I swear they would blame... Obama.

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