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Wed Aug 28, 2019, 04:34 PM

Trump Admin: Children Born To US Service Members Overseas Will No Longer Be Considered US Citizens

Task & Purpose reports:

Children born to U.S. service members and government employees overseas will no longer be automatically considered citizens of the United States, according to policy alert issued by U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) on Wednesday.

Previously, children born to U.S. citizen parents were considered to be “residing in the United States,” and therefore would be automatically given citizenship under Immigration and Nationality Act 320.

Now, children born to U.S. service members and government employees, such as those born in U.S. military hospitals or diplomatic facilities, will not be considered as residing in the U.S., changing the way that they potentially receive citizenship.


[link:https://www.joemygod.com/2019/08/trump-admin-children-born-to-us-service-members-overseas-will-not-longer-be-considered-us-citizens/|]

Only white parents need apply...
Why the fuck would you serve? These Nazi's are out of fucking control

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Reply Trump Admin: Children Born To US Service Members Overseas Will No Longer Be Considered US Citizens (Original post)
Soph0571 Aug 2019 OP
40RatRod Aug 2019 #1
Blue_true Aug 2019 #20
dflprincess Aug 2019 #2
FiveGoodMen Aug 2019 #3
IggleDuer Aug 2019 #4
Soph0571 Aug 2019 #6
LisaL Aug 2019 #11
LisaL Aug 2019 #10
Bradical79 Aug 2019 #16
Spider Jerusalem Aug 2019 #18
onenote Aug 2019 #14
IggleDuer Aug 2019 #23
stopbush Aug 2019 #5
Proud Liberal Dem Aug 2019 #9
Guilded Lilly Aug 2019 #7
Hekate Aug 2019 #8
Buckeyeblue Aug 2019 #12
onenote Aug 2019 #13
LisaL Aug 2019 #15
onenote Aug 2019 #17
kskiska Aug 2019 #21
Blue_true Aug 2019 #19
Ilsa Aug 2019 #22

Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Wed Aug 28, 2019, 04:36 PM

1. That's going to change a lot of votes to against Trump

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Response to 40RatRod (Reply #1)

Wed Aug 28, 2019, 07:53 PM

20. Yep.

The OP implied that Whites won't be affected. The policy dramatically effects career military officers and foreign service people, who are predominantly White.

I think the prick is striking at John McCain in the grave. McCain was born in the Canal Zone of Panama.

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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Wed Aug 28, 2019, 04:44 PM

2. Aren't there Supreme Court decisions that cover this?

Nt

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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Wed Aug 28, 2019, 04:48 PM

3. NONE of us can count on any constitutional rights while these monsters are in charge.

America has already been taken over.

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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Wed Aug 28, 2019, 04:58 PM

4. That would have made John McCain a "furriner."

This would really help with military recruiting.

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Response to IggleDuer (Reply #4)

Wed Aug 28, 2019, 05:02 PM

6. I think that this is about on US citizens serving as a path to citizenship

Those who serve to be part of the US - fuck the right off if you think we will ever accept you or your brown kids.

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Response to Soph0571 (Reply #6)

Wed Aug 28, 2019, 05:46 PM

11. No, the parents are already citizens according to the article. But their children born outside US

won't be considered citizens.

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Response to IggleDuer (Reply #4)

Wed Aug 28, 2019, 05:45 PM

10. Well, exactly.

People like McCain would therefore be ineligible to run for president. At least if I understand the article correctly.

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Response to LisaL (Reply #10)

Wed Aug 28, 2019, 06:24 PM

16. Ted Cruz might be a better example

 

Dad was born in Cuba, and he was born in Canada.

McCain would be 100% in the clear because of specific law regarding the Panama Canal Zone.

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Response to Bradical79 (Reply #16)

Wed Aug 28, 2019, 07:36 PM

18. Or George Romney who was born in Mexico to American parents (n/t)

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Response to IggleDuer (Reply #4)

Wed Aug 28, 2019, 06:11 PM

14. No it wouldn't because the Panama Canal Zone is covered by a specific law.

Not affected by this interpretive ruling.

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Response to onenote (Reply #14)

Sat Aug 31, 2019, 04:41 PM

23. IIRC McCain was born outside the Canal Zone in Panama City.

His parents wanted to go to a private hospital. The military hospital in the Zone wasn’t good enough for them.

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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Wed Aug 28, 2019, 04:58 PM

5. They wake up every morning thinking "what new cruelty can we inflict on the world before noon?"

Then, they go out and do it.

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Response to stopbush (Reply #5)

Wed Aug 28, 2019, 05:19 PM

9. +1

Exactly

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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Wed Aug 28, 2019, 05:07 PM

7. The Cretin and his party clearly hate America and Democracy. n/t

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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Wed Aug 28, 2019, 05:18 PM

8. What fresh hell is this?

GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!

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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Wed Aug 28, 2019, 05:47 PM

12. Is this satire?

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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Wed Aug 28, 2019, 06:10 PM

13. Another article by someone who doesn't understand immigration law.

While I'm not saying the changes announced are good or a correct interpretation of the statute, they do not apply as broadly as the OP article (and many other articles) suggest. The provisions in question only apply to a limited number of situations in which a child born outside the US to US citizens does not acquire "citizenship at birth." Those situations include adoptions and the rare circumstance in which the child's parents didn't not live continuously in the US for at least one year at some time before the child's birth.

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Response to onenote (Reply #13)

Wed Aug 28, 2019, 06:14 PM

15. I am not sure how "child born outside the US to US citizens" could include adoption.

Obviously if a US citizen adopts a child, that child is not born to that US citizen.

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Response to LisaL (Reply #15)

Wed Aug 28, 2019, 06:49 PM

17. The provision is dealing with very unusual circumstances.

One example given in the guidance involves a U.S. citizen who may have automatically acquired U.S. citizenship based on birth in the United States, but never actually resided in the United States. This U.S. citizen will not have established residence in the United States, and may be unable to transmit U.S. citizenship to his or her own children.

On the other hand, the guidance does not apply to the following situations: a child born outside the US to parents both of whom are citizens of the United States and one of whom has had a residence in the United States or one of its outlying possessions, prior to the birth of such person and to a child born outside the the United States where one of the parents is an alien, and the other a citizen of the United States and where, prior to the birth of such child, the citizen parent was physically present in the United States or its outlying possessions for a period or periods totaling not less than five years, at least two of which were after attaining the age of fourteen years. That's going to cover most situations. And in those situations, being a government employee or serving in the military overseas counts as "physical presence."

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Response to LisaL (Reply #15)

Wed Aug 28, 2019, 08:10 PM

21. Chief Justice John Roberts adopted 2 children born in Ireland

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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Wed Aug 28, 2019, 07:48 PM

19. Most foreign service people are White.

I think Trump's problem is more John McCain was born under the category that he wants to try to ban.

The next President should not only reverse the policy and make everyone affected by it immediate citizens, that President should also force Congress to pass a constitutional amendment and send it to the states for approval.

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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Wed Aug 28, 2019, 08:14 PM

22. They are trying so hard to do away with birth citizenship.

I guess they'll make kids in the US take tests. And persons too disabled won't be citizens, and therefore won't get SSI.

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