Kim Jong Ryan's actual marathon time confirmed: 4:01:25

[Newsjock]

http://news.runnersworld.com/2012/08/31/paul-ryan-says-hes-run-sub-300-marathon/

Updated 12:29 am
It turns out Paul Ryan has not run a marathon in less than three hours—or even less than four hours.

A spokesman confirmed late Friday that the Republican vice presidential candidate has run one marathon. That was the 1990 Grandma’s Marathon in Duluth, Minnesota, where Ryan, then 20, is listed as having finished in 4 hours, 1 minute, and 25 seconds.

... In a statement issued to Runner's World by a spokesman Friday night, Ryan said of his marathon experience:

"The race was more than 20 years ago, but my brother Tobin—who ran Boston last year—reminds me that he is the owner of the fastest marathon in the family and has never himself ran a sub-three. If I were to do any rounding, it would certainly be to four hours, not three. He gave me a good ribbing over this at dinner tonight."

[Raster]

1. And yet another lie. That boy is just full of them!

[Plucketeer]

36. You can SEE why the acto of lying comes so easy to Ryan...

He's been practicing all these years. It's like second nature to him. Just blink those big cow-eyes at you and say with a straight face: "Jump over the moon? Yeah, I done that!"

[Coyotl]

71. new PhotoShop this thread

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021250539

[cyclezealot]

85. Good catch.. With his bare hands too.

He overstated his time by one hour plus.. Runners do not forget their best time.. Its not as if he overstated by 10 minutes.. One hour is a big whopper for dedicated athletes.. If he lies over the small stuff, he'll tell huge whopper over important stuff.

[Raster]

96. It is more than obvious that Ryan has all the earmarks of a COMPULSIVE LIAR.

It is also more than obvious that Ryan is used to NOT being called on his lies. This needs to change.

[Booster]

2. These 2 people are just plain dangerous.

[dsc]

3. just imagine if Al Gore had made this mistake

the media would have had a field day.

[Cosmocat]

13. FUCKING A

This just makes me want to rip my skin off.

This ALONE.

ALONE.

None of the 1,000 lies policy lies this little pukebag has put forward even considered.

THIS ALONE would destroy a democrat.

[coldbeer]

48. A sub 3 hour marathon used to be my goal

It used to be a qualification for the Boston Marathon.
I ran a 3 hour and 46 minute marathon after two years of training.
This was in 1984. To say you ran a two-fifty something is
a lie! We runners know. It is not an accidental mis-speak especially
for a twenty-year old! A sub 3 hour marathon is like a
three hundred batting average or gaining a hundred yards in
a game. Over four hours is an atta-boy and I have a few of
those. If I came home and said I ran a sub 3 hour marathon
I would be labelled a liar (for life)!

[Cosmocat]

60. Just brazen fucking BS

I am slow, flat slow.

My best time in a 10 K is 42 minutes.

Never had to lie and say a sub 30 minute time.

I drag my butt around it, that is enough for me.

[pink-o]

64. Remember when the claims were that Bush ran a 6 minute mile?

Yeah, right! That drunken doughboy--they obviously forgot to put a one in front of that six!

Repigs just love to pretend they're more physically fit and strong than liberals. It's a real macisomo complex.

[Buzz Clik]

89. Bush ran a 3:44 marathon. A 6 minute mile is not out of the question.

[Marinedem]

97. This.

Say what you will about him, but anyone that has ever ran with him knows he's no slouch.

[n2doc]

45. We would be subjected to jokes about it all fall long

Just like the 'invented the internet' crap.

[Blue_Tires]

65. Oh, this was no mistake at all...

[The_Casual_Observer]

4. His eyebrows touch when he is winding up for a big sincere lie

[TexasBushwhacker]

5. A good ribbing? Like LIAR LIAR PANTS ON FIRE!!!! n/t

[rocktivity]

93. That's "RUNNING SHORTS on fire" to YOU!

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[jmowreader]

6. How "a good ribbing" goes in the Ryan household...

Tobin broke three of Paul's ribs with a 2x4 and informed him he was voting for Obama over this.

[barbtries]

7. some people lie

just for practice. some people lie just to see what will fly. some people do not believe that honesty is important.
i can't imagine being a republican. but just say i was, i would be horrified at this ticket if only for the fact that it consists of two habitual liars.

[Hubert Flottz]

25. "habitual liars"

Reminds me of lying George Bush Jr.

[barbtries]

52. oh yeah

the entire flock of bushies. the media just lets it slide. honesty is devalued and we are the worse for it.

[cognoscere]

68. Check out Pseudologia fantastica at Wikipedia. NT

[ecstatic]

81. I was wondering about that

Are there any reasonable and informed republicans left? And if so, how are they digesting all the outright lies R&R are telling? I can't imagine our side rallying around two obvious liars. I remember when Grayson put out a borderline ad and he was attacked by both the left and right. When Clinton told some untruths, she lost a lot of support on our side (all is forgiven now, but just referencing past behavior).

[barbtries]

86. i don't know,

but on MHP's show yesterday the republican on the show said "everyone does it" that stupid false equivalency as if that should excuse it. that's the excuse of an errant teenager. right is still right and lying is still wrong in my book.

i switched my support from hilary to obama after she told a whopper about being in a war zone. just lost my respect. and yes i love her again, but at the time it really soured me on her.

[Cha]

8. His new and now permanent name is not

Paul Lyan for Nothing!

[SoCalDem]

9. Guffaw..Guffaw..Guffaw

Lyin' Ryan is a toad..

[joeybee12]

10. Another pair of Ryan's pants burnt to a crisp!

Series-ly, the guy is incapable of telling the truth.

[DiverDave]

11. What is WITH these guys?

Do they think people are so STUPID that telling lies is O.K.?
On second thought, I don't need the answer to that

[Cosmocat]

16. They are republicans

20 years now, of them being able to bully the "liberal media" into not calling them on their BS, and Ryan was "born" into the middle of it. His WHOLE career as a politician, and he IS a career politician, he has known a world where republicans literally can say ANYTHING with no fear of reprisal.

He is part of the generation of Rs who truly believe that being an R means they can just makes crap up and it is all good because they are republicans, the TRUE americans, the TRUE warriors of the constitution and founding fathers, and as such are so special and unique that they are above it all.

[sendero]

12. "I minimize the lie I told"..

... by relating that I got a "good ribbing".

Nobody who has ever ran a marathon could forget the difference between 3 and 4 hours. Another pathological liar politician.

[polly7]

35. Crazy-making narcissists use that all the time.

When caught up in even a deliberate lie, make it funny .. only the obsessive, humour-impaired will over-react. I'm always surprised at the number of people who end up supporting and agreeing with them.

[Motown_Johnny]

14. the GOP's idea of a numbers guy

over 4, under 3... whatever!

[cpwm17]

15. Good runners want to break three hours in the marathon

So clearly Paul Ryan was familiar with that goal. There's no way that could have been a mistake - liar. 4:01:25 is far slower and looks nothing like a sub three hour time.

[KharmaTrain]

17. Pinocchio Boy Steps In It Again...

This dude can barely say his name without lying...

[malaise]

18. Paul Lyan

strikes again

[neeksgeek]

19. Just imagine the lies he'll tell if he becomes VP! (n/t)

[rbrnmw]

23. Hell he might even break Cheney's record

of lies told by a VP

[doa2627]

20. nice

hot

[farmbo]

21. MSM... Are you seeing a pattern here?

... And aren't you ashamed that the only investigative journalism is being done by Runner's World?

[PCIntern]

26. DUzy....nt

[Berlum]

31. Excellent point farmbo

Runner's World is doing the job the corporate media is fluffing off on bended knee....

[Cali_Democrat]

94. "both sides do it"

That's what they always say.

[JBoy]

41. +1000

[demmiblue]

49. +1

Though, Runner's World probably has more integrity.

[tomm2thumbs]

22. if they'll lie to your face about the little things....

you can be damn sure they'll do it about the big, important things as well

more so, because they see those things as more worthy of lying about

this guys is earning is brown nose award more and more, the more we hear

[Buns_of_Fire]

24. Big deal. I could beat my grandma in a marathon seven out of ten times.

And I would have won the other three if she hadn't cheated and tripped me with her cane.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

27. "No mas pantalones."

You could warm entire cities with Ryan's burning pants.

[wake.up.america]

43. To those who don't speak Spanish - No más pantalones is slang for liar, liar.

[midnght23]

28. what??

media would have had a field day.

[DinahMoeHum]

29. "I don't lie. I just economize with the facts"

n/t

[Berlum]

30. Sad that Republicans feel the need to lie about this shit

But chickenhawk republicans like Ryan and Romney and Bush and Cheney -- in my experience -- are always on some desperate quest to prove they are "man" enough -- I guess in a pathetic way to try and hide their shame.

[BootinUp]

32. Totally shocked /sarcasm

hes a serial f'in liar!

[reformist2]

33. This is worth a mention (or two) at the convention, as a joke line.

[edhopper]

34. And if the MSM

does get around to mentioning this, will they be able to do so without bringing in the supposed fibs of Gore, which of course all turned out to be true.

[6000eliot]

37. So, in other words, you lie even about things you don't have to lie about?

Nobody would have cared about your stupid marathon time. This guy is supposed to be the SMART one?

[Pat Riot]

38. Like a Seinfeld episode

George was coaching Jerry on beating a lie detector. "It's not a lie if you believe it."

[wake.up.america]

39. The dude is incredibly insecure.

He must have taken lessons from Dubya about lying, And that's the truth.

[Brickbat]

40. You could tell it was a lie when he said "Under three, high twos. I had a two hour and fifty-

something."

Marathon runners know their times. To the second. They just do.

[JBoy]

42. Ironic that he lied about his time in "Grandma's Marathon".

[tanyev]

44. Time for Al Franken to write Lies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them: Vol. 2

[undeterred]

46. And he is the best math guy in the GOP.

[catbyte]

47. Come on, he was only off by an hour or so. Doesn' everbody do that?

[bucolic_frolic]

50. Ryan's a WHIZ with the math, ain't he?

I suspect his budget numbers are just as far off.

[beac]

51. "Oh yeah, it was SOOO long ago that I thought I ran a time that FULL TIME marathoners

would be lucky to hit in my ONE and ONLY marathon. My bad."

Lying is like breathing to Ryan.

[booley]

53. I don't really think this is important

Firstly, he could have just forgotten how fast he did it.

Secondly, he's lied about so much more important things this seems like a waste of time.

Yes I know, it's a point about how Ryan is a lier and republicans live in a fantasy world where Obama followed Clinton, Obama was president in 2008, and it's wrong for Obama to make cuts to medicare according to the guy who wanted to make similar cuts to medicare.

But we already have plenty of ammunition for that.

[Brickbat]

56. No marathoner forgets his/her best time.

[TBF]

62. He wouldn't forget that -

maybe off by a minute or two but he wouldn't be off by an hour. Mine were 5:07 and 5:27. There's no shame in training & finishing. His choice to lie about it to make himself look better is very troubling in my view.

[demmiblue]

54. K&R

[BumRushDaShow]

55. And another rethug "Rising Star™" goes

[indypaul]

57. And for goodness sakes.

Don't anyone ask him his golf score.

[eppur_se_muova]

58. Creating his own reality.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reality-based_community

[awoke_in_2003]

59. Why lie about this?

Hell, if I could run a marathon in six hours without dying I would be happy. A pathological liar lies when their is absolutely no good reason to.

[renate]

67. "a pathological liar lies when there is absolutely no good reason to"

EXACTLY.

And it wasn't a slip-up, saying three hours when it was really three hours and X minutes. He even elaborated on it at some length.

There was NO good reason to lie--nobody cares about how long it took him to run a marathon 20 years ago--but he just couldn't help it. He just. couldn't. help it.

[TBF]

61. Nothing wrong with the time

marathons are not the easiest runs. My two were both over 5 hours (5:07 and 5:27). The need to lie about the something so easily verifiable is, however, very troubling.

[kitt6]

63. This "young gun's" gun slid

down into his pants. I swear.

[catbyte]

92. Young Guns. Another hilarious GOP term. All are pushing 50.

It's just as bad as Henry Hyde explaining the child he fathered with his mistress at age 42 was a "youthful indescretion." 42 is NOT youthful. 42 is middle aged. All Republicans do is lie and the Teabilly fuckheads eat it up.

Arrgh!

Diane
Anishinaabe in MI

[Liberal_in_LA]

66. liar

[paparush]

69. Now THIS guy new how to lie about his marathon times...

http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2012/08/06/120806fa_fact_singer

[mwooldri]

70. I'm not a marathon runner.

But I have taken part in a half-marathon - once. Considering I am unfit, and I'm not that fond of running actually... well... I know the time it took me to do that half marathon (3 hours 45 mins official time). My wife, in the same unfit state, has done a few more 1/2's than me and she knows her times for all of them and she knows her personal best (3 hours, 30 minutes official time).

If us "extremely casual" runners know our times... then Mr. Ryan should know his.

[Alduin]

72. It was only a "misstatement:"

http://nbcpolitics.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/09/01/13611931-paul-ryan-says-he-misstated-marathon-claim?lite



I should just say a complete lie on national tv and tell people I "misspoke" when I get caught with saying said lie.

[Cannikin]

73. The Ryan Conversion Factor

We should start adding an additional 27% to all of his budget figures.

[cstanleytech]

74. So April 1st, 2025 will be the day he announces his own presidential candidancy?

[Blecht]

75. Just another inaccurate "fact"

One of many instances that illustrate the new definition of "fact".

[MADem]

76. If he's LYIN', he's RYAN!!!!!!

Goes so well with "If he's SHITTY, he's MITTY!!!!"

[smirkymonkey]

95. I like that!

My new motto!

[Mkap]

77. paul lying ryan

can't go a week without lying

[griloco]

78. RYAN RUNS WITH ROSIE RUIZ (her video)

&feature=related

[Bushfire]

79. Former Grandma's marathon finisher perspective

At the age of 20, the typical ex high school athlete probably averaged 3 to 5 miles a day if they didn't compete in cross country in the fall, and IF they planned to enter an early summer marathon such as Grandma's. They might have a long Sunday run of 10 to 12 miles leading up to the marathon once every other week. You throw in a long run to get your body used to hitting the wall, and pushing it to its limit. This was a humid, and hot time of year in the midwest. NOT ideal marathon running weather. At 20 yrs old, with no cross country running experience that I've read about in his past his goal was probably to say to his pals that he finished a marathon. That's a worthy goal, except he decided to run for office then lie about it to the press. From what I read he only ran one marathon. I only ran one marathon. I remember my time within 60 seconds give, or take a few. I will go to my grave knowing what I ran that hot summer. I trained hard for months leading up to that day. I had friends in the crowd that day. I had friends in the race that day. If I ran for office I don't expect them to stay silent if I lied. He simply had to tell the truth. I'm embarrassed he's from my state, but glad that he's not a Democrat.

[ecstatic]

80. Nice try, Lyin

Disgusting. Those two assholes refuse to tell the truth about anything.

[ErikJ]

82. This just in from AP "Paul Ryan announced he is a member of SEALTeam 6......

......No book deal announced yet."

[ecstatic]

83. So, does he even do P90x every day?

I remember being semi-impressed at his dedication, but if he lied about the marathon, odds are he's lying about P90 too. He probably does it once every few weeks or so. How insecure does someone have to be to make up stuff like that?

[AllyCat]

84. Sounds like a lie a guy would tell in a bar to impress a

Someone. Really, why would he even lie about this? If it happened that long ago that he can't remember details, just say "hey, I ran a marathon once" and leave it at that. Only a pathological ld liar running for office on no good merits would feel the need to lie about something so petty. An offense to all the competitors out there who work their behinds to do their best.

[roccr1985]

87. A LONG TIME AGO IN A GALAXY FAR FAR AWAY...

RYAN: Rise my friend.

ROMNEY: The Death Star will be completed on schedule.

RYAN: You've done well, Lord Romney. And now I sense you wish to continue your search for young Obama.

ROMNEY: Yes, my Master.

RYAN: Patience, my friend. In time, he will seek *you* out, and when he does, you must bring him before me. He has grown strong. Only together can we turn him to the Dark Side of the Force.

ROMNEY: As you wish.

RYAN: Everything is proceeding as I have foreseen.

ROMNEY: He will come to me?

RYAN: I have foreseen it. His compassion for you will be his undoing. He will come to you and then you will bring him before me.

ROMNEY: As you wish.

...and the rest is history...

Ryan, you can lie all you want but we all know WHO and WHAT you really are.

[UrbScotty]

88. Welcome to DU!

[Permanut]

90. Wasn't intended to be a factual statement...

I'm sure he just forgot to put the disclaimer in there, just like Kyl did back in 2011.

[WestWisconsinDem]

91. the thing is, 4:01 is a really nice time for 26.2

If he's have just gone with that he'd have gotten a lot of respect. I have trained with guys who have gone well under 2:20, and they'd say the same.

But Ryan, as others have stated, lies almost constantly. 2:50-ish is a WORLD away from 4:01... he's lying and not very good at it.