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Botany

(70,584 posts)
Tue Sep 17, 2019, 08:38 AM Sep 2019

NYT/Kavanaugh: How many times do we have to see the same M.O. to recognize it and call it out?

George W Bush went AWOL for the TANG (Texas air national guard) to avoid a piss test
but "they" changed the subject to Dan Rather and the phony memo.

Trump got large sums of Russian money from Deutcshe's Bank when nobody else would
lend him a dime but "they" changed the subject to Lawrence O'Donnell's source.

Many many credible cases have come out about Brett Kavanaugh sexually assaulting
women and heavy drinking but now "they" have changed the story to the NYT.

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NYT/Kavanaugh: How many times do we have to see the same M.O. to recognize it and call it out? (Original Post) Botany Sep 2019 OP
Because it's effective. TwilightZone Sep 2019 #1
Sad but true...nt Wounded Bear Sep 2019 #2
But in every case the underlying story turned out to be true. Botany Sep 2019 #4
They think it's their job (except for a few like Rachel and Lawrence). triron Sep 2019 #5
If we really had a liberal media w bush & Trump would never have had even a sniff of the Presidency Botany Sep 2019 #6
+1 2naSalit Sep 2019 #8
Sure, but so were the distractions, to an extent. TwilightZone Sep 2019 #15
He's a weenie whipper. Farmer-Rick Sep 2019 #3
Agreed! RainCaster Sep 2019 #7
Kavanaugh is the epitome of spoiled rich white boy privilege. Lonestarblue Sep 2019 #10
Yeah, I knew a guy in the military who used to say that whenever he got drunk his pants fell down. patphil Sep 2019 #12
Yeah they are a type....maybe a mental disorder Farmer-Rick Sep 2019 #14
Not only that... 2naSalit Sep 2019 #9
I think Kavanaugh's appointment also had to do with Justice Kennedy's son @ Deutsche's bank .... Botany Sep 2019 #11
I have read a little about 2naSalit Sep 2019 #16
White privilege strikes again ConnorMarc Sep 2019 #13

TwilightZone

(25,480 posts)
1. Because it's effective.
Tue Sep 17, 2019, 10:16 AM
Sep 2019

Distraction, deflection, and projection have always been effective tools in political debate and propaganda. They're even more effective now in our social-media-driven, short-term-memory society. They do it because people fall for it every time.

Botany

(70,584 posts)
4. But in every case the underlying story turned out to be true.
Tue Sep 17, 2019, 10:39 AM
Sep 2019

W went AWOL as a member of the TANG, Trump got Russian money from Deutsche's Bank,
and Kavanaugh has a proven history of sexual assault (Dr. Ford's house has 2 doors to keep
her from feeling trapped) but the media sells the republican "understory."

triron

(22,020 posts)
5. They think it's their job (except for a few like Rachel and Lawrence).
Tue Sep 17, 2019, 10:42 AM
Sep 2019

Look what happened to Lawrence?

Botany

(70,584 posts)
6. If we really had a liberal media w bush & Trump would never have had even a sniff of the Presidency
Tue Sep 17, 2019, 10:47 AM
Sep 2019

both of them had so much baggage that they should have had no chance

W going AWOL, passing out and pissing the bed in Alabama after coking and drinking
as well as a # of business failures...

... and Trump is just a fucking crook, con man, a failed businessman, and mobbed up too.

TwilightZone

(25,480 posts)
15. Sure, but so were the distractions, to an extent.
Tue Sep 17, 2019, 02:51 PM
Sep 2019

The Dan Rather memo, for example, was indeed a fake. At that point, the underlying story lost some credibility (and we, an excellent journalist) so it's somewhat understandable that the fake became *the* story, at least temporarily.

The problem, of course, was that the media then focused on only the fake and not the remainder of the story. Because of our short attention span, the fake pretty much blew any chance of the story remaining in the public eye or being researched further.

Unfortunately, that's how the system works, and it's somewhat representative of our society. Big stories basically get one shot and if the story takes a hit, the media tends to toss the entire works and move on to the next shiny object.

Complicating matters, specifically in Bush's case, record-keeping was spotty and the claims were all over the place*.

Trump and the right understand this, which is why they throw out trial balloons and make seemingly contradictory claims about just about everything. It introduces confusion and causes people to question legitimate sources.



*https://www.factcheck.org/2004/02/new-evidence-supports-bush-military-service-mostly/

Farmer-Rick

(10,212 posts)
3. He's a weenie whipper.
Tue Sep 17, 2019, 10:19 AM
Sep 2019

Brett has to whip out his little weenie every time he drinks.

I use to know a guy in college like that. He ended up spending years in jail and got put on the sex offenders list. That's what should have happened to weenie whipper Brett.

RainCaster

(10,915 posts)
7. Agreed!
Tue Sep 17, 2019, 11:22 AM
Sep 2019

It can still happen. He can be brought up on charges for all his misdeeds. Let's rub the GOP's nose in it. They choose perverts over intellect.

Lonestarblue

(10,078 posts)
10. Kavanaugh is the epitome of spoiled rich white boy privilege.
Tue Sep 17, 2019, 11:30 AM
Sep 2019

His sexual assaults and indecent behavior alone should have been enough to disqualify him, but his rabid rant venting his anger and going into conspiracy theories about the Clintons should have been enough to convince anyone that he does not have the temperament nor the judgment to be a Supreme Court justice. Unfortunately, Republicans no longer care (actually haven’t for decades) about judicial competence, only party loyalty.

patphil

(6,210 posts)
12. Yeah, I knew a guy in the military who used to say that whenever he got drunk his pants fell down.
Tue Sep 17, 2019, 11:37 AM
Sep 2019

These guys are dildos.
Definition of a dildo: a mindless fucker.

Farmer-Rick

(10,212 posts)
14. Yeah they are a type....maybe a mental disorder
Tue Sep 17, 2019, 12:34 PM
Sep 2019

Drink and out comes their little weenies. Or they are on a woman who doesn't want them.

We never invited him, but he almost always showed up. We would put a watch on him. When his dick came out, or he got obnoxious with women, he would be "not so gently" escorted out.

He never graduated though he was smart. I heard he showed his dick to a very young girl whose father was a cop and he landed in jail. It just went downhill from there.

2naSalit

(86,781 posts)
9. Not only that...
Tue Sep 17, 2019, 11:26 AM
Sep 2019

I think his appointment was a reward for protecting Epstein's clientele and Epstein as well. Probably a client himself. So exposing him could be that thread, one of many, that unravels the woven fabric of corruption. One can hope.

Botany

(70,584 posts)
11. I think Kavanaugh's appointment also had to do with Justice Kennedy's son @ Deutsche's bank ....
Tue Sep 17, 2019, 11:34 AM
Sep 2019

... Trump loans and that Kavanaugh's place on the court was part of the Judicial Crisis Network's
(rich right wing fuckers) plan for years because he has the right conservative bon vides. They spent
$18 million to keep Garland off the court.

And yes you might very well be right that Jeffery Epstein's "business" might be tied in as well.

2naSalit

(86,781 posts)
16. I have read a little about
Tue Sep 17, 2019, 11:58 PM
Sep 2019

the Justice Kennedy's son connection, it's probably how they managed to pull that part off.

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