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Wed Sep 18, 2019, 10:50 PM

"House Democrats send the clear signal that ANYONE from the WH can slap them, spit on the floor,

and effectively say, “Fuck you.”

Never Trumper Rethug Rick Wilson's take on today's hearing (it's not pretty).

snipped:

"It’s not about Corey. It’s about the total inability of the House majority to get down to nut-cutting. It’s about the only line of defense in a threatened democracy being manned by a group of people who don’t understand that until you cause Trump’s minions actual pain, with penalties and consequences, they will act with impunity. They know the rules of the show, and Democrats don’t.

Team Trump won the day because Democrats failed to provide a comparable show.Taking Lewandowski’s abuse and contempt and grinding through an endless series of dull questions is pathetic television, and Americans are conditioned to respond only to exciting television.

That’s why the Democrats should have adopted the “Sergeant at Arms, take that man into custody” strategy. Power is held by those who use it; it’s always a depreciating asset. A surly, arrogant Lewandowski taken into custody over the contempt and deception shown to a co-equal branch of government would be great entertainment and the kind of shock politics the Democrats need to break through.

By the way, I don’t care about the lack of recent precedent or the legality of “Sergeant at arms, take that man into custody.” I care about the drama and the visual.

 This is where the whole “IMPEACH!” crowd falls down. It’s hard to see how House Democrats could carry out some deus ex machina impeachment miracle when they can’t even handle a low-grade thug like Lewandowski. Democrats need to up their game, and fast. The audience is watching."

https://gen.medium.com/corey-lewandowski-just-made-the-democrats-look-utterly-bloodless-269cd7b6b26e

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Reply "House Democrats send the clear signal that ANYONE from the WH can slap them, spit on the floor, (Original post)
Nevermypresident Sep 2019 OP
dweller Sep 2019 #1
ehrnst Sep 2019 #4
ancianita Sep 2019 #2
ehrnst Sep 2019 #3
Post removed Sep 2019 #5
ehrnst Sep 2019 #8
leftstreet Sep 2019 #6
ehrnst Sep 2019 #7
malaise Sep 2019 #13
ehrnst Sep 2019 #14
pwb Sep 2019 #9
StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #10
ehrnst Sep 2019 #11
ehrnst Sep 2019 #15
LexVegas Sep 2019 #12

Response to Nevermypresident (Original post)

Wed Sep 18, 2019, 11:38 PM

1. "I care about the drama and the visual. "

and i call bullshit ...
typical repug response

the Dems are carefully treading thru the swamp and
quagmire dotting every i and crossing every t ...
shitshow reality tv that has no touch to my reality is not
the Dem's game, nor strategy
for that strategery look to team drumph and his enabling repug party
oh, and the magats of course, apparently they believe anything...

✌🏼

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Response to dweller (Reply #1)

Thu Sep 19, 2019, 12:01 PM

4. If there's anyone you can trust for good counsel to Dems, it's a rethug strategist.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_Wilson_(political_consultant)

Wilson entered the political arena by campaigning for Connie Mack during the 1988 Florida Senate election. He later served on George H. W. Bush's campaign as Florida field director. Wilson was also a presidential appointee to the Department of Defense under then Secretary of Defense Dick Cheney.

In 1994, Wilson joined a Florida media firm, where he created Pollie-award winning ads for Rudolph Giuliani during the 1997 New York City mayoral election. In 1999 Wilson moved to New York City where he initially worked at City Hall, and then later campaigned for Giuliani during the 2000 New York Senate election.

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Response to Nevermypresident (Original post)

Wed Sep 18, 2019, 11:50 PM

2. They'll up their game by having Barry Berke tear into every Trump thug they get in front of them.

After he's done, only about three Dems should be allowed to ask anything. Period.

The Sergeant-at-Arms should be called, and Nadler better quash any bullshit uproar from the Republicans at every damn session.

I hear people I know say that they think a debacle is inevitable.

Nadler better up HIS game with tough, tight, sessions that take no bullshit answers.

Or Americans won't buy this oath of office stuff any longer.

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Response to Nevermypresident (Original post)

Thu Sep 19, 2019, 11:46 AM

3. Promoting a hit piece on Dems by a Rethug strategist? You trust a former Giuliani/Cheney lackey's

 

advice to Dems on what Dems should do more than you trust actual Democrats?

That's interesting. And I imagine sharing this is very helpful to someone - not Democrats, but someone.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_Wilson_(political_consultant)


Wilson entered the political arena by campaigning for Connie Mack during the 1988 Florida Senate election. He later served on George H. W. Bush's campaign as Florida field director. Wilson was also a presidential appointee to the Department of Defense under then Secretary of Defense Dick Cheney.

In 1994, Wilson joined a Florida media firm, where he created Pollie-award winning ads for Rudolph Giuliani during the 1997 New York City mayoral election. In 1999 Wilson moved to New York City where he initially worked at City Hall, and then later campaigned for Giuliani during the 2000 New York Senate election.




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Fri Sep 20, 2019, 07:22 AM

8. Pot, meet Kettle.

 

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Response to ehrnst (Reply #3)

Thu Sep 19, 2019, 08:19 PM

6. I didn't think the poster was 'promoting' it

nor did s/he say it was to be 'trusted'

It's scathing though, that's for sure

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Response to leftstreet (Reply #6)

Fri Sep 20, 2019, 07:18 AM

7. Read the text prior to the snip. The post is promoting messaging from a RW strategist. (nt)

 

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Response to ehrnst (Reply #3)

Fri Sep 20, 2019, 11:57 AM

13. Thanks for this response

There are some OPs I simply ignore

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Response to malaise (Reply #13)

Fri Sep 20, 2019, 12:07 PM

14. It's amazing what gets posted on DU sometimes.

 

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Response to Nevermypresident (Original post)

Fri Sep 20, 2019, 07:25 AM

9. I didn't see it that way at all.

Sorry.

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Response to Nevermypresident (Original post)

Fri Sep 20, 2019, 07:51 AM

10. Rick Wilson is an idiot

 

Among other things, the whole point of the Sergeant-at-Arms "taking that man into custody" is to bring him to the committee to testify. If that man is sitting in the hearing room testifying, there's no point in taking him into custody.

The internet has many benefits, but one of its detriments is that it allows people with no experience and no legal training to read just enough about various legal concepts and procedures to think "Hey, that sounds like a good idea!" and then spread it all over social media, throwing in just enough fancy terms to sound like they know what they're talking about.

I really wish there was a way to ban anyone without a law degree or significant experience working in a senior position on a Congressional committee from discussing "inherent contempt" in public since most of the people talking about it don't have the first clue about what it is and how it does and doesn't work.

Anyone claiming that "precedence and legalities" should take a backseat to "drama and the visual" is a Trump-emulating fool. Rick Wilson needs to sit down, STFU and stop spewing his ignorance out to the world.

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Response to StarfishSaver (Reply #10)

Fri Sep 20, 2019, 11:53 AM

11. +1000. (nt)

 

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Response to StarfishSaver (Reply #10)

Fri Sep 20, 2019, 12:48 PM

15. I think it's sad that he gets people who should know better

 

to help him with GOP messaging.

Dreading the someone starts sharing Joe Walsh's campaign messages on DU, because he HATES Trump, and trashes Democratic leaders that are irritating them.

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Response to Nevermypresident (Original post)

Fri Sep 20, 2019, 11:54 AM

12. ...

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