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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsLIAR! Paul Ryan's campaign admits that Paul is a big fat LIAR! (He never ran a 3 hour marathon)
Paul Ryan disgusts me. He wants to be one heartbeat away from being the leader of the free world but he is a dishonest man.
We saw during his speech he could look right into the camera and his compatriot's eyes and lie about the big stuff. Now that we know he is lying about his marathon and it becomes obvious that he lies about everything.
The beauty of this is, is that anytime Ryan brings up numbers, people will be able to question them in reference to the marathone time. I can already hear Biden in the debates: "I hope you are remembering those numbers better than your "2 hour fifty something" marathon."
Like Mitt and Ann and their pathological lying, Ryan fits right in. (post about Ann's lying here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021242130 )
I, personally, will enjoy watching Ryan get roasted for his "mistaken untruth" or whatever it is he is going to call it. He is sorry. Sorry he got caught. But he'll try to lie his way out of it just like he seems to always try to do.
Paul Ryan: Marathon Time Claim Not True
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/01/paul-ryan-marathon-time_n_1848715.html?utm_hp_ref=politics
Paul Ryan's campaign walked back comments the VP nominee made about running a marathon.
"I had a two hour and fifty-something" marathon, Ryan said last week an interview. "I hurt a disc in my back, so I dont run marathons anymore."
But the Ryan campaign confirmed to Runner's World that he has only run one marathon, the 1990 Grandmas Marathon in Duluth, Minnesota, which he finished in just over 4 hours.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)and christian values, i walked away from anything religious. (not that i ever participated with religion, but had respect for beliefs anyway). now, when religious talk to me i call out the liars, and the others willingness to allow the lying.
i cannot stand the righteous blatantly lying as they preach. i do not like lying as it is. but this is hugely offensive.
DonRedwood
(4,359 posts)And for no other reason than the guy is just dishonest.
Whisp
(24,096 posts)he beat Edmond Hillary up Mr. Everest?
he discovered penicillin?
moobu2
(4,822 posts)One definition of a sociopath:
"A sociopath is typically defined as someone who lies incessantly to get their way and does so with little concern for others. A sociopath is often goal-oriented (i.e., lying is focused - it is done to get one's way). Sociopaths have little regard or respect for the rights and feelings of others. Sociopaths are often charming and charismatic, but they use their talented social skills in manipulative and self-centered ways"
http://www.truthaboutdeception.com/lying-and-deception/confronting-a-partner/compulsive-lying/types-of-liars.html
DonRedwood
(4,359 posts)DonRedwood
(4,359 posts)Remember, marathons are not plain old everyday races. For the good ones like the Boston Marathon, you have to qualify by running other little marathons. They keep very careful track of the times and, as a code of honor, runners are honest about their times.
You don't run a marathon and lie about the times because they are all posted and everyone can look them up.
Up until now I thought Ryan was a good liar. Now I think he's a stupid liar but just as dangerous.
speedoo
(11,229 posts)Two opposite terms.
Peregrine Took
(7,413 posts)Enormous lie on his part and he will never live it down. There are millions of runners out there and we all know the time of our races - even 5 k's.
reformist2
(9,841 posts)DonRedwood
(4,359 posts)I really think he just crossed a line that many people will not accept. We know politicians lie about political stuff.... but this is something else all together.
reformist2
(9,841 posts)DonRedwood
(4,359 posts)really stupid lies. Or it was family lore--my grandmother swore this wicker laundry basket she had came over on the mayflower... only to find out it was from the 20's.
I told a couple of people her tale before we found out the truth... so... cobb salad/laundry basket/elizabeth warren's native background> i give those unfactual statements a special dispensation since you should be able to trust your grandparents, but it seems they often pass along some dubious information.
(mayflower, indeed!)
DonRedwood
(4,359 posts)then it is just a lie of omission.
PA Democrat
(13,225 posts)then lie BIG.
FOUR hours verses 2 hours and 50 some minutes is a HUGE difference.
Jeez, I am half expecting him to tell us that he's married to ..... eh, Morgan Fairchild. Yeah, that's the ticket.
sadbear
(4,340 posts)without it backfiring.
Generic Brad
(14,275 posts)I observed him clock in around 45 minutes of lying a few nights ago at the GOP convention.
DonRedwood
(4,359 posts)The Ryan campaign is a marathon of lies!
progressivebydesign
(19,458 posts)..the way Clint talks to his chair.
Seriously. I have the ability to figure someone out pretty easily. Ryan's biggest focus is not his family, not his work, but his body. He's like one of those guys that you may have dated or known that spends lots of mirror time. Extremely extremely vain.
sadbear
(4,340 posts)pokerfan
(27,677 posts)DonRedwood
(4,359 posts)putting on makeup to the crazy music.
Blanks
(4,835 posts)...not too long ago for a lie of this magnitude.
I'd hate to see a republican controlled house get a hold of a lie like this.
Its the principle, or so I've heard.
JBoy
(8,021 posts)Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(107,972 posts)That was the name a poster gave him on another thread. Kim Jong Il claimed to have made 11 holes in one on his very first outing so this is an apt comparison.
DonRedwood
(4,359 posts)gulliver
(13,180 posts)Yeah, his brother gave him a good ribbing over it. Sure he did. I'll bet it was just laugh, laugh, laugh around the Ryan table over this. I'll bet the Romneys are having a good chuckle over it now too.
DonRedwood
(4,359 posts)Laugh laugh laugh....
but then jr throws in the zinger..."When weren't you lying to the American People!"
laugh laugh laugh
Oh the mirth of it all.
DonRedwood
(4,359 posts)I truly think Ryan just turned off an entire section of the country. The runners are pissed off. BUT, won't this also erode his honestly with everyone who cares about athletics, times, records, etc.?
Running under three hours in a marathon is a major fete--so his lie about his time is like lying about your batting average, or being fourth at the Olympics or being a state champion. It isn't a fib...it is a pretty bold-faced lie.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)Why would this be different? It's easy to lie about this, and preserves his image. Why would you think he would lie about anything else?
RedStateLiberal
(1,374 posts)To take the focus off of Rmoney's big lies and the blatant lies that are coming from his campaign.
They've decided they're going to lie and nothing will stop them - not fact checkers or anything. So, throw out some blatant small lies to distract attention while spreading big lies on important issues (welfare checks - medicare) to influence swing voters.
The rationale could be that if the media focuses on these small lies then they'll give the big lies a pass.
exboyfil
(17,863 posts)Edwards at 3:30. Gore at 4:58. Bush at 3:44.