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GrantDem

(1,791 posts)
Sat Sep 1, 2012, 05:37 PM Sep 2012

White Racial Anxiety and the Changing Demographic Tide: Legitimate Concern or Illogical Worry?

Census projections show that by 2042, the majority of the American population will consist of people identified as "non-white." In other words, in about 30 years, whites will no longer make up the majority of the American population. But before we actually get to that point when whites indeed become a quantitative minority (whereby some of them will begin to claim to be the "new" racially oppressed minority group in America), let's analyze exactly what this demographic shift entails.


http://truth-out.org/opinion/item/11180-white-racial-anxiety-and-the-changing-demographic-tide-legitimate-concern-or-illogical-worry
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White Racial Anxiety and the Changing Demographic Tide: Legitimate Concern or Illogical Worry? (Original Post) GrantDem Sep 2012 OP
There's no such thing as race: it's a superstition, like a belief in Fate struggle4progress Sep 2012 #1
Exactly ... its an artificial construct etherealtruth Sep 2012 #7
Whites will be a minority in Canada by 2031 riverbendviewgal Sep 2012 #2
Legitimate for fearful whites. ananda Sep 2012 #3
Or, How do you define race-baiting? Zax2me Sep 2012 #4
My argument years ago with whites who fretted about this, was that whites were always a minority. freshwest Sep 2012 #5
I have a few disagreements with that article. Zalatix Sep 2012 #6

riverbendviewgal

(4,252 posts)
2. Whites will be a minority in Canada by 2031
Sat Sep 1, 2012, 05:48 PM
Sep 2012
http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/article/777547---visible-minority-will-mean-white-by-2031

The city and its suburbs are expected to surpass the 50 per cent visible minority mark in 2017. By 2031, almost 63 per cent of the region's population will be from a visible minority community, says the study released Tuesday.

For decades Toronto has proudly worn the title of "most diverse." But never before have the numbers shown so clearly just how much more diverse we are about to become.

Minority populations will more than double in the next 20 years – from 2.3 million in 2006 to 5.6 million in 2031.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/2010/03/09/statscan-minority.html

The projections suggest that whites will become the minority in Toronto and Vancouver over the course of the next three decades.
 

Zax2me

(2,515 posts)
4. Or, How do you define race-baiting?
Sat Sep 1, 2012, 06:04 PM
Sep 2012

White people are scared, white people are scared....
It's race-baiting.
If you reversed this and objectified people of African or Hispanic descent most would define it as racism.
This is simple race-baiting.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
5. My argument years ago with whites who fretted about this, was that whites were always a minority.
Sat Sep 1, 2012, 06:09 PM
Sep 2012

Worldwide and always been so, that the numbers were against them. I told them to embrace and work for equal rights for all. Most especially minorities, since they were destined to be a minority eventually. The way that 'others' or 'aliens' are treated will be reflected back on them in the future.

But leaders among any group who promote this are playing us. They encourage us to divide into teams to fight each other for their own financial advantage. I don't believe the 1% are racist at all. They are of every race and religion or none, and they don't care. This is a game to keep waste our energy in society.

People buy it, which is why the 1% believe they are superior. And in that respect they are. They don't around tossing nuts and taunts at people because of the color of their skin, or language, but work to keep their wealth, no matter how it is coming in. They respect people that help them.

Things are changing, and this is the true American ideal, what we were working toward and what all people are creating in our nation and world now. Some folks will resist, but they're going against the tide. Prince Charles said as western culture gives way, that whatever was best was what we need to leave the world, and there have been many great things from the Age of Enlightenment others may see as worth keeping.

Racism is not of them. This video is an example of what America and the world is becoming. Warning, it's an ad for Obama by his sister:



This is a positive Democratic Party acknowledgment of the present and the future. What the GOP is presenting is quite foolish. JMHO.
 

Zalatix

(8,994 posts)
6. I have a few disagreements with that article.
Sat Sep 1, 2012, 06:35 PM
Sep 2012

The article asserts that whites will retain power even as they are outnumbered, through (to put it succinctly) indoctrination and financial power. It seems to dismiss the likelihood that they'll simply be pushed out of power.

"A growing multicultural population may make some white people feel threatened, but in no way can it actually threaten and dismantle the system of white supremacy on its own." This part is true, but IMO it is misleading and it seeks to understate the threats that face the world of white cultural domination.

The fact that practically ZERO percent of blacks are now supporting the GOP makes wobbly the notion that they'll just keep on admiring white people. There'll always be a Herman Cain in the bunch, but overall the whole power structure is in danger. I truly believe that there is a dependency relationship between the survival of the GOP and the survival of white cultural domination. I don't see one surviving without the other. Euro-centric ideals will most certainly be pushed aside by the growing Hispanic population. In California you can see the rise of Hispanic culture in grocery stores; I doubt it's any different in other areas with a large Hispanic populace.

There is also the issue of 'white flight' in areas where whites are no longer an overwhelming majority. After 2042, white flight might even accelerate - think: glacier melting after the global warming tipping point has been reached. When they flee an area, especially when the populace is on a general decline, their dominance will leave with them.

From the article in the OP:

In fact, concerned whites shouldn't be that concerned at all. They should actually be very content with the changing demographic reality. Why? Because prevailing systems of power never concede power; they simply acclimate all dominant and subordinate members of the system in different ways.


If this were true then whites would still rule South Africa. Again, from the article in the OP:
No one is expecting longstanding systems of power to come to a halt.
Uh, but that's almost exactly what happened in South Africa.
DISCLAIMER: the following is not good news by any sane person's standards
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_South_African#Current_trends

The new phenomenon of white poverty is often blamed on the government’s affirmative action employment legislation, which reserves 80% of new jobs for black people[citation needed] and favours companies owned by black people (see Black Economic Empowerment). In 2010, Reuters cited Solidarity's said that 450,000 whites lives below the poverty line[15] with some research saying that up to 150,000 are struggling for survival.

(The details get far worse in the next paragraph)


I'm posting this cite just to point out that when whites do become the minority, it doesn't necessarily mean that they will remain dominant, or that non-whites will keep worshiping them. Things can, in fact, go very much awry, both for guilty and innocent white victims alike, and for the souls of those who indiscriminately take their anger out on the remaining white people among them.

I don't think that America will ever sink that low, but one thing is quite likely: whites won't maintain dominance over other racial groups like the 1% do over the 99%. The 1% might not even be as dominant after 2042, considering that demographics show that the GOP will wither off the vine after 2042. Liberal whites may help sink the GOP BEFORE 2042. The issue in South Africa is that Africans did not just ask Afrikaners to relinquish power - they took it back. There's nothing to say that the same won't happen here... hopefully in a more peaceful manner.

From the article in the OP:
Frederick Douglass is ever apt, "Power concedes nothing without demand. It never did and it never will."

True indeed, but that 'demand' (to put it lightly) may come quicker than the article writers realize. Why? Because not all whites even subscribe to the white dominance concept. For instance, ask Tom Hayden about that. He's far from alone.

The problem is, it'll be far too late by 2042.
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