Trump just imposed tariffs on EU countries : 25% tax on French wine and Scotch whiskey

[octoberlib]

Link to tweet

Full list : https://ustr.gov/sites/default/files/enforcement/301Investigations/EU_Large_Civil_Aircraft_Final_Product_List.pdf


Breaking: US imposing 25% on French wine, single-malt Scotch whisky as part of response to EU aircraft subsides



Also, olives, sweaters, anoraks , butter and all kinds of cheese: Edam, Gouda, Pecorino. Swiss, Stilton, Cheddar.

[Coventina]

1. Dang, looks like I need to make a run and stock up!

Have I mentioned that I hate this guy?!?!?

[octoberlib]

3. I'm so tired of this clown.

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

2. Scotch?!!!!! Oh you fucking bloated meat goblin. nt

[Volaris]

41. Yep NOW I'll join the riots!

Only a true Nazi would increase taxes on good scotch!!

[smirkymonkey]

45. I knew he was going to stick it to the Scots.

He's such a vengeful little pig.

[tblue37]

57. They rejected his request to expand his Scottish resort development. nt

[Hoyt]

4. Guess they didn't give him any dirt, either. Another stupid move by the Racist-in-Chief.

[obamanut2012]

5. goodbye talisker

[leftieNanner]

25. And Oban

And Balvenie, McCallan, (don't like Laphroaig)….

[redstatebluegirl]

30. That is a low blow.

[Duppers]

6. My son will be upset on this one.

He's 32 & loves both French wine and Scotch whiskey.

His dad & I cannot afford his taste.

[Wellstone ruled]

7. Holy crap.

Think of what this does to Greece,were their single most important export is Oil Oil and Olives. Plus Spain another major source. Bet there is not a Tariff on Israels Olives.

[TreasonousBastard]

10. Or Italy's.

[Wellstone ruled]

14. Yes,but Italy

according to my ex neighbor is the major source of Olive Oil for most of Eourpe.

[octoberlib]

12. Italian cheese is also included. Trump's such an asshole.

[Wellstone ruled]

15. Forgot about the

Pharma. Damn lucky we pickup a Extra chunk.

[wryter2000]

16. Shit

Italian cheese????!!! His perfidy knows no bounds. Maybe his rich friends will kick his ass.

[smirkymonkey]

47. Damn! As if Pecorino Romano wasn't expensive enough already!

I live on that stuff. I put it on everything. Soups, salads, pasta, sandwiches, etc. Miserable bastard!

[TreasonousBastard]

8. I can live without French wine, but to now have to get Japanese single malt...

is just a bridge too far.

Tried some Japanese bourbon, and it wasn't all that bad. But Scotch is an entirely different story.

[wryter2000]

17. I had great Japanese Scotch once

I didn’t get the name, though.

[frazzled]

22. Yamazaki?

Excellent; though I still like my Islays, too.

French wine, Scotch whiskey, Italian cheese . Will life be worth living anymore? Of course, these are luxuries. But I'd cut back on other things to enjoy these pleasures. There are other wines to be had, and also whiskey, but there really is no substitute for real Parmigiano Reggiano.

[wryter2000]

65. OMG

I have to have my Parmigiano. Costco's is excellent. Its labeled "stravecchio," which I gather means extra aged. I'll pay more, if I have to. Otherwise, cancel pesto season.

[roamer65]

9. I have been shutting down a lot of spending.

1. So I won’t hafta pay the tariffs.
2. To help crash the economy.

Epiphanies usually come from the pocketbook.

[wasupaloopa]

11. Hope he leaves olive oil alone

[wryter2000]

18. California makes some good olive oil

But he’ll probably put a tariff on us. Bastard.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

52. California olive oil is just as good

and the quality control for it is better. Still, those tariffs are bullshit.

[octoberlib]

27. Olive oil is on the list It's pretty extensive. Here's the full list

https://ustr.gov/sites/default/files/enforcement/301Investigations/EU_Large_Civil_Aircraft_Final_Product_List.pdf

[Blue_true]

40. You can find really good extra virgin olive oil made here in the US.

It is pricey, but also heirloom organic, pesticide free, cold pressed. You can also find US olive oil beyond the first press.

I am not an alcohol drinker and I may eat 1/8 pound of cheese of all types combined per year. I don't eat imported cookies, I eat my own baked ones or domestic. I very seldom eat sweets like candy, even chocolate candy. The one area where I may be hit is mandarin oranges, but there are domestic sources that are good, so I buy the Spanish variety only when I notice them.

By an large, his tariffs won't stop me from buying any European foodstuffs that I buy, 25% on top of the existing price is rather meaningless to me given the quantities I buy. He would have hurt my business, I use a European origin oil, but recently changed my formulations to use far less, because another oil proved to be more adaptable for what I am doing. So all in all, FUCK TRUMP!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[wryter2000]

13. Scotch!!!???

That’s the last straw. I’ll have to get to Costco before all the good stuff is gone.

[DBoon]

19. Is imported gin on the list?

If so, I need to stock up for martinis

[Duppers]

20. Didn't see it listed.

So

[octoberlib]

23. Didn't see gin. I saw liquers and cordials, though.

[DBoon]

29. Damn! No Vermouth. No Italian olives

[GulfCoast66]

36. What? Cointreau also??

Real margaritas just got more expensive. I prefer bourbon on the rocks but the wife loves an original margarita.

And we both drink French wines almost nightly!

Wait till we see the retaliation. John Deere just laid off employees. Looks like more to come.

[onetexan]

54. But all those jobs the dumpster promised

[GulfCoast66]

56. Right. We are entering a manufacturing recession if not a general one.

And the dumb shit doubles down.

He has finally managed to shitcan anyone with spine enough to restrain him, is totally calling all the shots and the results, on all fronts, are sub-optimal. For him, that is.

[onetexan]

58. Saw one of his tone deaf apologists on completely denying

The slump & saying mfg is a strong as ever. Insane.

[GulfCoast66]

62. Right. But it does highlight the short term advantage the republicans got with with evangelicals.

Their entire personal ethos denies proven fact. 25% of America believes that the earth is 6000 years old and Noah truly built a boat for all animals on earth.

Now, most Christians in the world don’t believe that shit. As much as I dislike the Catholic Church, they pretty much say that when theology is confronted with proven science then theology changes.

But not evangelicals. I was raised evangelical so I know. They make a life of denying truth. So when a political party does not deny their baseless beliefs the are primed to believe other baseless stories that party throws out. Because if they question any of their beliefs they might be forced to question them all.

But it is a short term advantage. There are already about the same number of non religious folks in this country than evangelicals. And growing all the time.

[uponit7771]

21. Doesn't Trump own some wineries? tia

[octoberlib]

26. Yep. Benefits him.

[TheRealNorth]

24. I don't even understand the Trade War with Europe

My understanding Is that he started slapping tariffs on them for no real good reason, they retaliated, and now he is making it worse.

I at least understand the Chinese tariffs.

[MichMan]

35. They were authorized by the WTO

Up to $7.5 billion dollars in retaliatory tariffs on European goods were authorized by a WTO ruling. The WTO ruled that EU subsidies to Airbus were in fact illegal. Sounds like the US Government had a strong case.

https://www.usnews.com/news/business/articles/2019-10-02/wto-us-can-put-75b-in-tariffs-on-eu-goods-for-airbus-case

[Baked Potato]

28. Easily undone, good leverage for the next President

[c-rational]

31. How is one man allowed to wreak havoc on the economy. Past tariffs were supposedly

allowed to happen based on the false premise national security and Presidential powers; and neither our elected representative nor corporate media railed against it as improper.

[MichMan]

37. They were authorized by the WTO

Up to $7.5 billion dollars in retaliatory tariffs on European goods were authorized by a WTO ruling. The WTO ruled that EU subsidies to Airbus were in fact illegal. Sounds like the US Government had a strong case.


https://www.usnews.com/news/business/articles/2019-10-02/wto-us-can-put-75b-in-tariffs-on-eu-goods-for-airbus-case

[TheRealNorth]

64. Fair enough, but in the article it says the original tariffs Trump issued

Were not WTO approved. In addition, we have a judgment coming against us for subsidizing Boeing. Personally, I think it's in the national interest to protect some industries so that you are not wholly reliable on other countries for a critical sector.

[Newest Reality]

32. Because?

Tariffs are working well to??? What? Winning what?

We pay the tariff tax by way of price increases and our government pockets them on the import.

I am sure numb nuts knows that. Of course, he is out to screw us most.

[doc03]

33. Meh never bought either one. nt

[Spider Jerusalem]

34. Retaliatory tariffs on bourbon are going to cause some problems for McConnell no doubt (n/t)

[GulfCoast66]

39. Yep. I go to Europe almost every year and I also drink bourbon

It has been very popular there since everybody knows it is much superior to that shit the Scotts make.

[Volaris]

43. OMG...you go wash your filthy mouth out hahahha!!!

How dare you speak such obscene blasphemy, you dirty nazi troll!!

I kid, I kid.

Good bourbon is ok on occasion. But not many bourbons qualify imho.

[GulfCoast66]

46. I respect you right to be wrong!!!

Enjoy you scotch, although I don’t see how!

Actually I like a few of them. Mainly the good blended ones.

Have a nice evening with the beverage of your choice. I choose Makers tonight!

[Volaris]

48. Hrmmm...Makers is acceptable. But that quote about 'the blendeds' is borderline at best lol!

[Ilsa]

50. And John Boehner is glad he switched to pot in his retirement. nt

[malaise]

38. Guess none of their leaders agreed

to dig up fake stories for him.

[Maeve]

42. And Irish single-malt as well AND IRISH BUTTER!!!!!!!

Damn it, Kerrygold butter and cheeses are our favorites!!!

Ah, but there are some fine Irish blends....

[MissB]

49. What?????!!!! That's a bridge too far

I must go to Costco and stock up on butter and cheese. Kerrygold is the best.

[CountAllVotes]

59. That is taking it just too far

What the hell!

Gotta dump dump ASAP!!

[UTUSN]

44. Nothing on Vlad's mob companies, correct?!1

[Thomas Hurt]

51. Whiskey Rebellion Redux!

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

53. Countries in the EU:

Austria, Belgium, Bulgaria, Croatia, Republic of Cyprus, Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Ireland, Italy, Latvia, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Malta, Netherlands, Poland, Portugal, Romania, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden and the UK (but not for long).

European countries not in the EU: Albania, Andorra, Belarus, Bosnia-Herzegovina, Iceland, Liechtenstein,
Macedonia, Moldova, Montenegro, Norway, San Marino, Serbia, Switzerland, Turkey, Ukraine and Vatican City.

A couple of the non-EU countries produce nice sweaters and anoraks (Iceland and Norway). But I don't think many of them export a lot of wine, Scotch, olives, butter or cheese.

[CatMor]

55. Scotland just declined the trump proposal ...

for building a community around his golf course in Scotland. That is probably why the tariff on scotch.

[brush]

60. More evidence trump is a Russian asset. All of his moves seem to be 3 or less degrees of...

separation from Putin. Kevin Bacon must be jealous. The European tariffs hurt those countries and effect their economies negatively. trump could be feinting naivete by imposing there tariffs and claiming they help the US because we collect tariff money when in actuality they are really a tax on US consumers who buy the European goods.

All this of course causes disruption and discord here and in Europe—Putin's goal.

Same with China tariffs but with even more negative effect as China exports much more goods to the US with that much more disruption of our economy and cost to consumers.

The Ukraine situation benefits Russia also as trump delays the military aid to Ukraine which allows Putin's forces to dig in even further into eastern Ukraine thus making it harder to dislodge them. Now trump is publicly pushing for Ukraine to negotiate a settlement with Putin that will allow the provinces in eastern Ukraine a near autonomous status to the Russian-occupied region, plus Russia gets to keep Crimea and it's seaport. Putin wins again.

trump has Pompeo an Barr traveling the world to twist the amrs of several governments to help gin up "information" that the 2016 election interference really came from a Crowd Strike computer located in Ukraine, not Russia. Thus Putin wins again and can be re-admitted to the G8.

Imo trump is working for Putin, not the US.

[roamer65]

61. The EU will hit agricultural products hard.

They have HATED having to allow in American agricultural.

[NoMoreRepugs]

63. Trade wars with our Allies are easy to win.

[melm00se]

66. These tariffs

have been green lighted by the WTO due to the EU illegal subsidies of Airbus.

The U.S. was authorized to impose tariffs of up to 100% on $7.5 billion of goods by the WTO in what has been a 15-year battle over support programs for Airbus and U.S. aerospace rival Boeing Co.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-can-levy-tariffs-on-eu-exports-over-airbus-wto-says-11570025040

[octoberlib]

68. We also have illegal subsidies with Boeing.

Tariffs are a tax on consumers and not good for anyone.

[highmindedhavi]

67. Is this good or bad for California wines?