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Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
Thu Oct 3, 2019, 03:00 PM Oct 2019

The CrowdStrike Plot: How a Fringe Theory Took Root in the White House

NYT:

In an April 2017 interview with The Associated Press, President Trump suddenly began talking about the hack of the Democratic National Committee a year earlier, complaining that the F.B.I. had not physically examined the compromised server.

“They brought in another company that I hear is Ukrainian-based,” the president said.

“CrowdStrike?” the surprised reporter asked, referring to the California cybersecurity company that investigated how Russian government hackers had stolen and leaked Democratic emails, disrupting Hillary Clinton’s campaign.

“That’s what I heard,” Mr. Trump resumed. “I heard it’s owned by a very rich Ukrainian; that’s what I heard.”

More than two years later, Mr. Trump was still holding on to this false conspiracy theory.


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It is true, as Mr. Trump has often tweeted, that F.B.I. agents never took physical possession of the Democrats’ servers. But CrowdStrike supplied the F.B.I. with digital copies of the servers so that the bureau could assess the Russian malware infecting them. The Mueller investigation later confirmed CrowdStrike’s findings.

Still, the president has clung to the theory linking CrowdStrike, Ukraine and the D.N.C. servers despite the repeated efforts of his aides to dissuade him, Thomas Bossert, his former homeland security adviser, said on Sunday on ABC’s “This Week.” “The D.N.C. server and that conspiracy theory has got to go,” he said. “If he continues to focus on that white whale, it’s going to bring him down.”

To go in search of the roots of Mr. Trump’s CrowdStrike-Ukraine conspiracy theory is to travel the internet’s most peculiar provinces and the darkest threads on Twitter and Facebook. On 4chan and pro-Trump spaces on Reddit, on websites like ZeroHedge.com and Washington’s Blog, you can find plenty of speculation about evil manipulation by CrowdStrike and secret maneuvers by Ukrainians — often inflamed by Mr. Trump’s own statements.


Link: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/03/us/politics/trump-ukraine-conspiracy.html

There is a paywall at the NYT but I think you are allowed to read one or two articles for free.

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The CrowdStrike Plot: How a Fringe Theory Took Root in the White House (Original Post) Mike 03 Oct 2019 OP
Looks interesting underpants Oct 2019 #1
Narcissists & cultists always seek confirmation, never consider negation except to rebut it Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2019 #2
Trump May Have His Conspiracy Theories About The 2016 Election, The Dems & Hillary - But....... global1 Oct 2019 #3

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,043 posts)
2. Narcissists & cultists always seek confirmation, never consider negation except to rebut it
Thu Oct 3, 2019, 03:10 PM
Oct 2019

It is one of tRump's Achilles heels: He believes his own lies including the conspiracy theories he lies about.

So he won't give up. He'll double down. Jack him up until he literally (not figuratively, actually, in fact, on camera) foams at the mouth.

global1

(25,270 posts)
3. Trump May Have His Conspiracy Theories About The 2016 Election, The Dems & Hillary - But.......
Thu Oct 3, 2019, 03:10 PM
Oct 2019

how does he explain that if the Dems and Hillary were out to interfere with the 2016 election - that he won and is now the president?

Why were they so unsuccessful? Why isn't Hillary the President now? Was he so smart that he stopped their plan in its tracks?

It might have been believable Donnie if you lost. But hey - you won.

So in my mind - it seems like what you are implying - what the Dems and Hillary did - is what you and your Party pulled off and were successful.

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