Giuliani was warned that Ukrainian claims of Bidens' misconduct were not credible, Trump's ex-envoy

[Dennis Donovan]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/this-is-when-the-inquiry-gets-real-former-us-special-envoy-to-ukraine-testifies-in-impeachment-probe-today/2019/10/03/51365c1b-5a01-4e44-872a-299b67949a5e_story.html

Giuliani was warned that Ukrainian claims of Bidens’ misconduct were not credible, Trump’s ex-envoy tells lawmakers

By John Hudson, Rachael Bade and Karoun Demirjian

Oct. 3, 2019 at 3:47 p.m. EDT

The former U.S. special envoy for Ukraine told House investigators on Thursday that he warned President Trump’s personal attorney, Rudolph W. Giuliani, that Giuliani was receiving untrustworthy information from Ukrainian political figures about former vice president Joe Biden and his son, according to two people familiar with his testimony.

Kurt Volker, who resigned last week after being named in a whistleblower complaint that sparked the House impeachment inquiry of Trump, said he tried to caution Guiliani that his sources, including Ukraine’s former top prosecutor, were unreliable and that he should be careful about putting faith in the prosecutor’s stories, said the people, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss the closed door meeting.

Volker’s testimony offers the first inside account of the Trump administration’s efforts to press for a Ukrainian investigation into Trump’s political rival.

At the heart of this effort is Giuliani’s contention that, as vice president, Biden pushed for the firing of Ukraine’s former prosector general, Viktor Shokin, as part of a corrupt plot to halt investigations into a Ukrainian natural gas company that employed Biden’s son Hunter.

Joe Biden has denied the accusation, and foreign policy experts have pointed out that Biden’s push to remove Shokin was part of a broader international effort that included the European Union and the International Monetary Fund, where leaders viewed Shokin as an inept.

Volker also said that he and other State Department officials cautioned the Ukrainians to steer clear of U.S. politics. Getting involved, he said he told them, would open the nation up to allegations that they were interfering in an election and could be detrimental to Ukraine long-term, according to these two individuals

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2nd bombshell from the Volker hearing so far - Gym Jordan claimed it was a nothingburger. Hardly...

[Mike 03]

1. Wow, you caught that one fast. It's literally breaking now. Thanks!

[global1]

2. Rudy Doesn't Care What's Credible and What's Not....

his job was to throw up enough chaff to confuse the issue. Unfortunately for Rudy - he's thrown up so much chaff - that he confused himself as well.

[Mike 03]

3. This satisfies one of the criteria for a libel/slander suit even by a public figure:

That the defendants know the allegation is false, which leads to the reasonable inference that the allegation was made with malice (another criteria).

(This was an active discussion earlier this morning on DU)

EDIT: Replaced plaintiffs with defendants