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(58,362 posts)probably just has allergies and has developed a jones for antihistamine meds.
IggleDuer
(964 posts)It is a decongestant. It is used to make methamphetamine and is considered anCintrolled Substance.
MaryMagdaline
(6,848 posts)IggleDuer
(964 posts)Combine that with the KFCs and Big Macs!
coeur_de_lion
(3,660 posts)that the best thing for the country would be that tRump dies in his sleep.
erronis
(14,853 posts)recovery and time to think about his life.
Maybe even "come to bejezus".
How can he ever atone?
coeur_de_lion
(3,660 posts)but I don't think it will happen. Unless we get Pence arrested too, he will pardon him.
alfredo
(60,062 posts)alfredo
(60,062 posts)We need to be right.
coeur_de_lion
(3,660 posts)in 2016.
alfredo
(60,062 posts)coeur_de_lion
(3,660 posts)but tRumpers don't care. They like him BECAUSE he's such a doofus.
alfredo
(60,062 posts)coeur_de_lion
(3,660 posts)3catwoman3
(23,748 posts)I would pay big bucks to either watch him getting his head chased of being the one who got to do it.
Maraya1969
(22,410 posts)But I've bought that stuff and you have to give identification and sign for it. I think there is a waiting period where you can't buy it again. After that time had passed you can more.
crimycarny
(1,351 posts)One of the biggest side effects of taking Adderall, even as prescribed, is severe nasal congestion. That's the reason for all the Sudafed, not any "high". If Trump is abusing Adderall as he is accused of, Sudafed is too lightweight and would not give him the high he would crave.
The fact that he has so much of the UK formulation of Sudafed is intriguing. The active ingredient in the US Sudafed formulation, pseudoephedrine, on top of Adderall would make his heart race like crazy. The UK version does not contain pseudoephedrine and the boxes in the photo have both a day time and night time formulation. I don't know enough about the UK version to know if it causes the same racing heart symptoms as the US version, but there has to be a reason he is choosing that formulation over the US.
Ms. Toad
(33,896 posts)It's not even listed as a rare side effect on the sites I checked
https://www.webmd.com/drugs/2/drug-63163/adderall-oral/details/list-sideeffects
https://www.rxlist.com/adderall-side-effects-drug-center.htm
In fact one site I found said it was used to treat congestion.
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cwydro
(51,308 posts)A germaphile would mean he loves germs. Even for him, thatd be a bit odd.
OMGWTF
(3,857 posts)Hotler
(11,327 posts)coeur_de_lion
(3,660 posts)Don't think I want to know.
shanti
(21,668 posts)coeur_de_lion
(3,660 posts)He isn't just nuts he is high as a kite 24/7.
forgotmylogin
(7,492 posts)Where I live, you can't buy more than 1-2 boxes at a time - essentially whatever is a 30-day supply. I count at least 3 in that drawer. You don't make a special drawer and leave it open for easy access for something that's not special somehow. Stuff that's used frequently always floats on top.
Isn't congestion usually a common potential indicator of someone using drugs that are snorted?
coeur_de_lion
(3,660 posts)But maybe every once in a while he runs out of Adderal and has to go to something else.
Ms. Toad
(33,896 posts)States can impose additional limitations.
I've been in fights with pharmacies around here becuase they post the signs with less restrictive state law - but they still have to enforce the federal restrictions. They refuse to provide the drugs my spouse and child need (allowable under state law they had posted, but not under federal law). (Neither can obtain a full month's supply under the federal guidelines, since (if I recall correctly) it is actually ony 28 days' worth. So it's a darn good thing that I don't have allergies.)
Fortunately, their allergies have reduced since the time the law was enacted, so it hasn't been an issue reently
RobinA
(9,863 posts)pseudoephedrine stuff you cant buy much of. If the UK version doesnt have that, it wouldnt matter how much was bought. That, and the uncontrolled version doesn't work worth crap. Hell, youd need three boxes.
Generic Other
(28,979 posts)The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,070 posts)gelsdorf
(240 posts)is because it was being used to make meth along other stimulants
Just sayin'
jmowreader
(50,419 posts)...so he probably knows a guy who knows a guy who turned that Sudafed into meth for him.
Mike 03
(16,616 posts)do the actual cooking.
CentralMass
(15,265 posts)Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(106,789 posts)MaryMagdaline
(6,848 posts)I can just see trump sending employees to go get it for him!!
coeur_de_lion
(3,660 posts)is from the UK. They don't have regulations against it.
MaryMagdaline
(6,848 posts)usaf-vet
(6,070 posts)coeur_de_lion
(3,660 posts)JHB
(37,122 posts)Last edited Sun Oct 6, 2019, 09:32 AM - Edit history (1)
...so before he would have had access to AF1.
Hmm, how tough would it have been for him to have his UK golf courses buy in quantity and pass it to him in NYC?
MarcA
(2,195 posts)Lawmakers, Presidents, billionaire CEOs and other rulers don't have to submit to pee tests
to prove they are in a drug-free workplace like they force on their subjects.
MaryMagdaline
(6,848 posts)Spider Jerusalem
(21,786 posts)there have been studies; it's no more effective than placebo (and unlike pseudoephedrine is not an amphetamine precursor; it has no speedy effects).
coeur_de_lion
(3,660 posts)crimycarny
(1,351 posts)I don't think Trump is abusing Sudafed for a high, I think it's far more likely it's to treat sinus issues caused by Adderall. Adderall can cause severe sinus congestion, even if taken as prescribed. In Trump's case it is alleged he snorts Adderall, which would cause major damage to his sinuses. I think those boxes and boxes of Sudafed are more relevant as proof that the Adderall abuse accusations are true versus an indicator that he is abusing Sudafed for a "high".
https://www.drugs.com/answers/adderall-severe-nasal-congestion-anyone-tips-stop-1399596.html
coeur_de_lion
(3,660 posts)mwooldri
(10,291 posts)The stuff not with the pseudoephedrine?
Spider Jerusalem
(21,786 posts)cwydro
(51,308 posts)I bought it in the UK too; no law against it there.
I suffer from allergies year round.
docgee
(870 posts)Ms. Toad
(33,896 posts)Not even the rare side effects.
One of references I found even indicated Adderall could be used to treat congestion.
docgee
(870 posts)Ms. Toad
(33,896 posts)ret5hd
(20,407 posts)Spider Jerusalem
(21,786 posts)it's on the front of the box:
(Paracetamol aka acetaminophen, phenylephrine and guaifenesin)
sarge43
(28,935 posts)and that insane presser Wednesday.
Houston, we have a pattern.
octoberlib
(14,971 posts)which is why Trump gobbles them all day long. Trump is a stimulant addict according to Noel Casler, who worked with him on Celebrity Apprentice and some of his pageants. Trump started snorting Adderall in the late nineties. He burned a hole in his septum from all the cocaine and amphetamines he snorted in the 80s and have to have it repaired. You can see the scar in some pictures. Casler has pictures of the Hells Angels at Celebrity Apprentice after parties. They were there because They were Trumps amphetamine source.
Casler had tweeted last year that Trump was an amphetamine addict and gobbled UK Sudafed all day. Somebody found a picture . Trumps also dyslexic and his cue cards had to be spelled out phonetically.
Seriously go through his tweets. @caslernoel Casler said he contacted the Clinton campaign in 2016 with all his information. He broke his NDA but cant convince directors, ADs who worked with Trump to do the same . Theyre scared not only of Trump but Mark Burnett, who threatened them with lawsuits and being blackballed from the industry if they talked.
3catwoman3
(23,748 posts)...on the regular pharmacy shelves here in the US. The original formulation continuing pseudoephedrine is the one you have to sign for.
RobinA
(9,863 posts)one woman anecdotal study is validated, the over the counter stuff is completely useless. I cant even believe they sell the crap. Personally, no placebo ever cured a sinus headache.
Newest Reality
(12,712 posts)That thread is revealing that Trump has also been a regular user of contraband and has a penchant for being doped up on a regular basis. I am not shocked, but this puts some meat on it.
Hmmm. Who suspected this? People do mention Adderall, but this points to another potential factor concerning his behavior. While personality disorders are one thing, he could also be just really fucked up and stoned; drugged up on one or more licit and illicit substances and he does seem to cycle hard.
This is interesting. A drug addict. Makes prefect sense.
Oh, and Jim Jones and L. Ron Hubbard were both heavy drug users right up to their deaths.
Now what?
shanti
(21,668 posts)was a tweaker too. Birds of a feather, and all that.
Newest Reality
(12,712 posts)Good one. Better living through chemistry, I guess. It's not easy being mean.
Lulu KC
(2,543 posts)This is an interesting thread.
Tennessee Hillbilly
(574 posts)Apparently he's trying to force a smile. But it look's like a lunatic's grin.
Scarsdale
(9,426 posts)he's got a phart caught crosswise, when he "smiles"
jpak
(41,724 posts)yup
pecosbob
(7,482 posts)then there of course is it's use in making bathtub crank. Prior to it's rise in popularity among methamphetamine makers it was more or less unregulated and was abused by some. In the U.S. Actifed no longer contains pseudoephedrine.
Precautions and contraindications
Pseudoephedrine is contraindicated in patients with diabetes mellitus, cardiovascular disease, severe or uncontrolled hypertension, severe coronary artery disease, prostatic hypertrophy, hyperthyroidism, closed angle glaucoma, or by pregnant women.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pseudoephedrine
coeur_de_lion
(3,660 posts)I absolutely cannot take sudafed or I will be up with no sleep 3 nights running.
If he takes it every day his brain must be gone by now.
pecosbob
(7,482 posts)MaryMagdaline
(6,848 posts)Cant take most cold medicines
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)I can't understand why some people find that pleasant.
coeur_de_lion
(3,660 posts)Makes me feel jittery just thinking about it.
snacker
(3,619 posts)That "racy feeling" is a perfect description of how it makes me feel.
RobinA
(9,863 posts)dont get the racy feeling. I am a fairly regular consumer of SudaFed from September until about February each year and it will keep me awake, but I dont feel racy. My father, on the other hand, wouldnt touch the stuff because he took it once and got the tachycardia big time.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)or like I am going to have a heart attack. It's a scary feeling. I can't stand the stuff. I don't understand why people are attracted to stimulants like that. I don't react well to drugs in general, which I suppose is a good thing.
Phentex
(16,329 posts)and spread it out throughout the day. I don't get the racy heartbeat but I do get a creepy crawly feeling on my head. BUT I can breathe for several hours after taking it so it's something I like to keep around. I buy a box of the real stuff once every few years.
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)as well as his hyperactivity during his Morning TV show for the fawning Press Corp. Jeff Mason finally found the Hot button,hope more do the same.
coeur_de_lion
(3,660 posts)Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)His Contact Lens have to be damn uncomfortable. Vanity is a bitch.
coeur_de_lion
(3,660 posts)Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)Caught the tells,mostly light reflections,certain type of blinking know to us Lens wearers when certain fragrances or fin dust is present. Forward head tilt in bright sunlight or bright lights,notice the use of his hand to deflect light.
Appears he likes to wear the super soft large lens's that are popular in enhancing eye color. Think Stage Crafting.
coeur_de_lion
(3,660 posts)Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)Cow eye effect.
forgotmylogin
(7,492 posts)I was stuck at work dying from a severe head cold and the Sudafed formulated with Aleve was the only thing that made me start to feel human again.
I believe it's similar to Excedrin's combo of aspirin+caffeine.
OneBlueDotBama
(1,370 posts)from the sound of a bottle of sudafed being passed around a dressing room.
Nasty stuff when abused...
RobinA
(9,863 posts)in a lot of sports. It increases the amount of O2 the blood will carry.
EveHammond13
(2,855 posts)Roland99
(53,342 posts)SCVDem
(5,103 posts)Wouldn't that act like water on the Wicked Witch?
I'm melting!
EveHammond13
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under his left hand
coeur_de_lion
(3,660 posts)I don't see that.
EveHammond13
(2,855 posts)EveHammond13
(2,855 posts)the picture should enlarge
coeur_de_lion
(3,660 posts)Good eye!
Sogo
(4,945 posts)....is the one he used to claim how much he loved Cinco de Mayo. ( he probably threw that tostada out afterwards and had someone go get them a burger.)
tblue37
(64,860 posts)NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)coeur_de_lion
(3,660 posts)NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)Donald Trump at Work, Looking at Bikini Photos of His Ex-Wife
The photo in question is actually part of a People spread on Trumps second ex-wife, Marla Maples, who parlayed her former husbands newfound fame into a spot on Dancing With the Stars this season. Heres the page he was looking at:
EveHammond13
(2,855 posts)coeur_de_lion
(3,660 posts)I lived in NYC at the time, and there were photos of Ivana in the Daily News skiing backwards, shaking her finger at tRump.
Ivana was a very athletic skier.
Niagara
(7,255 posts)What kind of jerk has his mistress and wife in the same vicinity of each other? It's a revealing warning sign of how much of a coward he truly is.
Thank you for sharing this post.
MontanaMama
(23,219 posts)Makes my heart race to the point where its scary. I get twitchy and weird...wait! Like MF 45!! Twitchy and weird...
coeur_de_lion
(3,660 posts)He's twitchy and weird 24/7.
I wonder when was the last time he had 8 hours sleep?
MontanaMama
(23,219 posts)The MF is broken. On every level.
mysteryowl
(7,281 posts)I looked it up on an internet search
rampartc
(5,225 posts)CharleyDog
(755 posts)some real health issues! I mean, taking this stuff should cause terrible hypertension, which damages the kidneys, heart, (erections), brain, etc etc. He should collapse, maybe he will.
unitedwethrive
(1,997 posts)Shouldn't the American people know the health of our leader?
H2O Man
(73,232 posts)His nasty heavy breathing annoys me.
coeur_de_lion
(3,660 posts)annoys me. I can only listen to him speak when he is implicating himself in a crime, as he has been last several days.
H2O Man
(73,232 posts)I find myself wishing I was in the press pool when he talks. I'd like to tell him about himself. I'd make him cry.
coeur_de_lion
(3,660 posts)I was amazed that the young reporter (Mason?) who sparked his outbursts (at the presser with the Finnish President) remained so calm and polite.
I could NEVER have done that.
Brainfodder
(6,421 posts)The doctoring of his doctor reports, that wasn't even above board?
So silly and dodging, we are stupid for not having a fast solve for all this corruption, that's how deep it is now.
Meanwhile, mother nature is asking for us to hold her beer and we are acting like it's optional.
BlueIdaho
(13,582 posts)Im just surprised hes feeding his habit with such shitty drugs. Where is Dr Feelgood?
coeur_de_lion
(3,660 posts)The guy who revealed his Adderall addiction also says because of it, he has to wear adult diapers. Long term use causes incontinence.
BlueIdaho
(13,582 posts)On The Apprentice? I think I saw an interview with him.
coeur_de_lion
(3,660 posts)He's a comedian now. Don't know for sure what he did on the Apprentice.
SWBTATTReg
(21,811 posts)Skittles
(152,918 posts)I have taken Sudafed on occasion but never had I had more than ONE box.
coeur_de_lion
(3,660 posts)area51
(11,851 posts)struggle4progress
(117,949 posts)3catwoman3
(23,748 posts)...6 feet under already?
octoberlib
(14,971 posts)are. This version of Sudafed does not contain pseudoephedrine which is used in making meth. Its the Adderall abuse thats causing Trumps pupil dilation and sweating. Read through @caslernoel s tweets, all of them for more information. He was Ivankas handler on Celebrity Apprentice and broke his NDA. This guys thread is just full of misinformation and hes been called out on it repeatedly.
I_UndergroundPanther
(12,439 posts)I take Adderall for ADHD. Have had it all my life and it runs in my family. One of my sisters takes it too.
I never got sinus congestion from it. Mostly I get a bit of dry mouth.
And it calms me.
If it hypes a person taking it they are misusing Adderall.
coeur_de_lion
(3,660 posts)he takes Adderall before public speeches because it calms him down. Because, he cannot read well so he gets nervous when he has to read a speech.
Ms. Toad
(33,896 posts)about Adderall - congestion is not even listed as a rare side effect (let alone a common one).
NCLefty
(3,678 posts)The Trumps are phony in every regard!