I still want my pony.....Democrats

[Ichingcarpenter]

I want..... my unrealistic list but one that many agree with.

Bush/Cheney and the top guys tried for War Crimes for the Iraqi Wars
... not gonna happen in the US

The US to sign back on to the International Criminal Court

Criminal Prosecution for the International conspired monetary meltdownn/ antitrust laws

Prosecution for torture and rendition by the CIA/ Geneva convention

Break up of the major banks and financial monopolies/ rico act

No Private Prison systems

Legalization of Drugs and amnesty for prisoners of said system

Half-ing of the Defense department to spend on Education, research
space exploration,.Infrastructure

Marriage equality and rights for all humans.

Breakup of the media.. AntiTrust Laws

Tax Churches like a business

End Citizens United

Term limits. in congress 16 years.. that can be defined later, but you need to give up power once in a while.

End the war on Whistle blowers

End the war on pot clinics.

End the Electoral College

Internet Freedom.

Term limits for the supreme court ....16 years or less

High tax for the very rich

End the Fed.....no I'm not a Paulie....LOL

reintegrate the Freedom of Information Act..... too many redactions now

Work globally to help mankind face climate change... The US in Copenhagen sucked

No Private companies owning our voting system.

Redistricting to be done by a computer vs irrational humans.

Universal Health care

Paid vacations..... you work so much,,, you get days off

Elections, you get the day off but are required to vote.

and finally

Bring back Arrested Development......LOL
Wait they are...... damn




Add you own pony wish.

I'm not gonna see this shit at my age, and I know it.
Republicans are like David Icke's Repitlians
Rant over.

[patrice]

1. Student Debt abatement.

[roguevalley]

26. i want everything on that list. doesn't mean I will vote for Romney

nice. kicking the shit out of dems for wanting more than the shit we get. doesn't matter why it doesn't come to us, we can want it. Eventually if it is mentioned enough times, someone with a conscience somewhere will try to make it happen. it isn't wanting a fucking pony. its wanting our country back.

Frag the republicans for their obstructionism but also frag the dems who settle for a bar too low.

[patrice]

30. It's more than mentioning. This is also about action. nt

[Ichingcarpenter]

34. Well, we have to be gentle to our pony

Otherwise the real owners might have to
decide what we want to feed that pony.

Even though that pony and I are soulmates.

[RKP5637]

2. K&R !!! Excellent Rant!!! n/t

[Ichingcarpenter]

12. Well, good beer and pot does that to me sometimes

it kills the pain......and releases endorphins.

[patrice]

3. Increase in Minimum Wage to $10.00 @ hr & indexed to cost of living.

[Ichingcarpenter]

9. Ten doesn't pay the bills make it fifteen

and tax them for the universal healthcare

and free education

[patrice]

15. I'm thinking make it $10. & indexed & then throw in Free Education, and Child & Elder Care, BUT

failing ANY of that push it to $15.00, or maybe even $20.00, & indexed.

[xtraxritical]

53. That would be just the kind of stimulus this economy needs.

[Vincardog]

20. Make that a guaranteed living wage for every worker and a minimum income for those who can't.

It all comes down to minimum living standard for Americans.
Housing
Healthy food, water and air
Universal single payer health care
Enough income for vacation and retirement
Free quality public education at all levels for life. (want to become an MD at 40? Have at it.)
and a pony

It can only happen with PUBLIC financing of elections, the stripping of Human rights from corporations and
limits on the SCOTUS advancing policy in favor of the rich.
Ending the "trade agreements" that turn our sovereignty over to corporate interests.
Plus open fair elections.

[Rex]

4. Hold people responsible for the lies they tell in office

and behind the CEO desk, that end up causing damage to the people and the infrastructure of our country. I am talking about punitive damage caused by insidious planning in bad faith (basically all the BFEE years).

My pony would be the reward of watching the BFEE get their day in an American court.

[patrice]

5. Universal Child Care, with a sliding scale fee.

[rbrnmw]

6. End the war on the Poor

Pay a living wage

Raise Minimum wage to $12.00 an hour


Stop calling Social Programs entitlements it's not an entitlement when you force them to work for $4.17 an hour

SS is paid into by the recipient it's not an entitlement

[patrice]

7. Universal Long-Term-Care and Assisted-Living, on a sliding-scale fee & preferably in co -operation

with Universal Child Care.

[reformist2]

8. We need to prioritize - then we can be more effective.

[Ichingcarpenter]

10. My Pony doesn't ask that

It can't talk anyway..because it has no voice.

[reformist2]

13. My pony is more practical, I guess. :)

[xchrom]

11. Du rec. Repeal the (un)patriot act.

Abolish homeland security.

[Ichingcarpenter]

14. Yes,,,,, thanks that's a big one too.

Our pony is getting bigger.

[rhett o rick]

16. Before you get anything on your list it is necessary to have free and fair elections

and strict campaign financing laws.

[reformist2]

19. +1 - That ought to be our #1 priority, imo.

[rhett o rick]

55. I agree. nm

[russspeakeasy]

29. + 1

[chknltl]

31. plus another one!

Without that, democracy in America is lost. In order to get anything else on the OP's list, We The People need our voice fully re-engaged in OUR government.

[hfojvt]

17. many of those I would be against, and others I don't see the point or the urgency

starting with prosecuting Cheney. This is gonna bring back some dead? This is gonna accomplish what?

"tax churches like a business". We already do. They are taxed just like any other non-profit business, except perhaps in property taxes, but that's a state thing.

"End the Fed" and replace it with what, exactly?

Given the start of your list, it seems like you favor putting more people in jail more than you favor lifting people out of poverty.

You suggest that Congresspeople need to "give up power". Well, I am not sure that Congresspeople like, say Anthony Weiner or Paul Ryan have as much power as a rich person like Romney or David Koch.

[Vincardog]

21. First off prosecuting war criminals is not about "bringing back the dead" it is about preventing

future war crimes. IF the bastids get away with starting illegal wars and destroying our legal system, what is to stop them?

[hfojvt]

27. I dunno

maybe those election thingies.

At least in theory.

What is an "illegal war"? Was Vietnam legal? How about the bombing of Serbia? Or the no-fly zone over Iraq?

I guess it does not matter that people, like Biden, voted to allow Bush to invade Iraq? How is he not on the indictment list?

[Vincardog]

58. The Constitution says that ONLY Congress can declarer WAR nothing on your list is a war.

Viet Nam and the Iraq fiasco were both based on lies.
IF the traitors who created the pretense for Nam had been dragged before the court and prosecuted maybe
they would not have had the temerity to continue lying to the US population promoting their illegal wars for profit.
The indictment list is for the persons responsible for lying us into war and or violating the law.
Remember when we were a law abiding nation in theory?
Remember when we were obliged to follow the Geneva Convention?
Remember when we prosecuted people for torture?
Being lied into supporting a position or casting a vote is not a criminal offense.

[Vincardog]

62. Why don't you say which you oppose and why you oppose them?

[hfojvt]

63. this?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=1255491

Are we still talking about this?

[Vincardog]

64. This

[link:tp://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=1255597|

[LWolf]

37. Which is exactly why the Democratic Party is currently so ineffectual. nt

[LWolf]

18. Okay:

1. End all efforts to privatize, roll back what has been privatized during my lifetime.

2. EDUCATION: Ban high stakes testing, all efforts to privatize (see #1), and kick the private, corporate policy makers out. Put education in the charge of the stakeholders: educators and those they serve.

3. Make ALL elections 100% publicly financed, funds equally distributed, with equal, and equally neutral, media coverage; debates that are not sponsored by corporate media, that include all candidates, that allow all candidates to answer all questions and give them all equal talk time.

4. Paper ballots required.

5. Repeal NAFTA, return to FAIR trade based on environmental and labor standards. No more outsourcing.

I still want my pony, too. My pony is a Democratic Party that is not neo-liberal, that does not put corporations before people, that serves the 99%.

[Ichingcarpenter]

28. I like that.....now we are getting down

to the points and some solutions to my rant

I could write a dissertation on each of my points
and have, but not on DU nor with my handle

Anyway thanks for such a eloquent reponce.

[LWolf]

36. You're welcome.

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Of course.

[reformist2]

35. Amen to the paper ballots. Tell the technocrats to go to hell.

[loyalsister]

22. MICASA

Medicaid Community Attendant Services Care Act.

[xxqqqzme]

23. Repeal the Patriot Act

n/t

[NorthCarolina]

24. I completely agree...well done

[obxhead]

25. 8 years.

16 years for a politician is far too long.

[Teamster Jeff]

32. Massive WPA style program to put millions back to work

Fix roads, bridges, sewers. Fix public school buildings, high speed rail. Green technology ect.

Tax multi national Corporations and the 1%. Transaction taxes for Wall Street. Fix shitty trade agreements. Stop negotiating shitty trade agreements.

[CheapShotArtist]

33. OP already beat me to what I was about to say...

but my pony list is:
1. Decriminalize marijuana and have it be regulated like alcohol and tobacco.
2. Bring tax rates on corporations and the 1% back to Eisenhower-era rates, where they were around 90%.
3. Recognize same-sex marriage nationwide.
4. Establish universal health-care.
5. Get money out of politics completely, and have all elections be publicly-funded.
6. No more Patriot Act.
7. Establish some type of lottery system to motivate people to vote, where each person gets a chance at winning $1M just for voting.

P.S. What's funny is that once I took one of those "are you more liberal than Obama" tests, and I agreed with all of those ideas on the test, and it said that my ideas would be considered by many as "too radical." I was thinking "wtf?" The reason why these ideas may seem radical is because of how far to the right the country has moved in the past few decades.

[Ichingcarpenter]

40. Your Pony can play in our 'Public lands' or common wealth

anytime.

[limpyhobbler]

38. Stop injecting toxic waste under the creek

[lib2DaBone]

39. Here here.. very well said....

Also... (speaking of Ponies) I would like to add that Mr. Obama DROP his wretched pursuit of NDAA and his quest to put Americans in Jail with no trial and no attorney.

Seems like this would be something that Citizens shouldn't even have to fight for.. "the right to a trial and the right to be charged in an open court of law."

For some reason.. Mr. Obama LOVES this NDAA... don't know why?

[rwsanders]

41. Realistic protection for endangered species (especially the Gray Wolf)

Is it the biggest issue out there? No, but I'd rather have a live wolf than a pony.

[japple]

42. Reinstate the Fairness Doctrine.

Women having control over all decisions regarding health and reproductive issues.

[JEB]

43. Bring back

Something like Glass-Steagall. Way past time to re-learn the lessons of the Great Depression.

[PADemD]

44. Close Gitmo.

Give all detainees a fair trial on U.S. soil in civilian courts.

[Ichingcarpenter]

48. Give it back to Cuba

The world would applaud that.

[Curmudgeoness]

45. And finally, I want my PONY.

All we seem to get is pony shit, and I am sick of it.

[MannyGoldstein]

46. Stop working to cut Social Security benefits

Democrats don't do that.

[kenny blankenship]

47. Don't look for ponies

on a jackass farm.

[radiclib]

49. I'd be a fool to expect even one of those things

in my lifetime. Not hapnin'.

[gtar100]

50. What a beautiful world it would be!

Unfortunately, we have to bring the republicans along kicking and screaming. Like a bunch of two year olds who don't know what's good for them.

[Heather MC]

51. women's health is not a political issue

affordable safe daycare

a lawprotecting single mothers from losing their jobs when their children's get sick and they cannot go to work

a child Support collection system that actually works in does not charge the father interest and the money actually goes to the child

and easier adoption process

capital punishment for child molesters,
and member dismembermeant for convicted serial rapist.
a girl can dream can't she

[Spitfire of ATJ]

52. Audit the Pentagon.

[Doctor_J]

54. I can combine these into one

FIGHT THE REPUBLICANS ON EVERYTHING. No more appeasement, no more middle ground (that's actualy way over on their side), no more bipartisanship. Fight, for chrissakes.

[reformist2]

56. I want a country packed with ponies, not a non-pony country.

[ProSense]

57. "End the Fed.....no I'm not a Paulie....LOL "

One of Paul's kooky ideas.

Krugman debates Ron Paul
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002630339

[Hydra]

60. Congress can manage the currency fine without leasing it out to a private group.

ala Civil War.

[NashvilleLefty]

59. OK, then prepare for a major ass-kicking.

Some of your ideas I like. Some of them are just stupid. Some of them are limited to the States. Some of them are dangerous.

Bottom-line: most of them are not achievable by ANY POTUS.

Unless, of course, you crown him King with unlimited power. Historian will tell you that the most efficient form of government is Enlightened Despotism. Unfortunately, it only lasts one generation.

And if you were crowned King, and one of those policies you outlined DIDN'T work, would you be willing to admit it?

You see, this is one of the differences between the children and the Adults in the room - the Adults are willing to admit "I might be wrong".

I'd love to discuss may of your "pony" wishes with you. some of them I think are pretty good. some of them I think are impractical. Some of them I think are just plain stupid.

[Hydra]

61. The "Adults"

Didn't admit they were wrong when they destroyed the Gulf of Mexico.

Or Fukushima.

Or the Middle East.

Or South America.

Or the Climate itself.

Hell, even the current economy.

No...the "Adults" blame it on the "liberals" who never supported them enough in these "Adult" ideas.