Trump's base is smaller than he thinks

[IronLionZion]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/trumps-base-is-smaller-than-he-thinks/2019/10/06/0826a842-e6dd-11e9-a6e8-8759c5c7f608_story.html?wpisrc=nl_rainbow&wpmm=1



The debate over impeaching President Trump reveals an irony: Those who favor it have far more respect for the president’s supporters than those who oppose it.

Critics of impeachment argue that the effort to remove Trump from office over his open invitations of foreign meddling in our elections will only ignite the Trump “base.” Those who say we should let this all go see his backers as an excitable immovable bloc of people closed to reasoned argument or new information.

Thus are roughly 40 percent of our fellow citizens cast as an unthinking blob that will embrace anything Trump says and turn out in droves in 2020 to beat back the elitist fake-newsers and deep-staters no matter what the facts are.

Those of us who support impeachment don’t deny that there is a “Trump base” but insist that mountains of polling evidence show that it amounts to 25 to 30 percent of voters at most. The rest of the 46 percent who voted for Trump have real doubts about who he is, how he behaves and what he is doing to our country. Even those of us who disagree with them on a variety of issues see this substantial part of Trump’s constituency as made up of rational and engaged citizens open to persuasion.

The article is claiming that Trump's opposers feel more strongly about opposing him than his supporters feel about supporting him and provides polling evidence. Impeach the MFer!

[PSPS]

1. It is certainly smaller than the media wants to reveal.

The way the media goes out of its way to find trump supporters to interview for any political story creates an illusion of size that fosters drama and both-sideism, which sells advertising. The GOP base is still shrinking and is smaller than it was even in 2018. That's why the GOP members of congress stay in lock step with trump -- they have to keep mollifying an ever-dwindling base of crazies (and the oligarchs) to keep their jobs. Otherwise, they'll be primaried by an even crazier person who will certainly win a partisan race where only other crazies (and the oligarchs) vote.

[FakeNoose]

2. Not many women will vote for him, and he's lost farmers, business, intel community

Maybe he still has the libertarian billionaires and the evangelicals, but so what? There aren't enough of them to keep Chump in office. I wish the media would just tell the real story, the fact that Chump never should have been the 2016 nominee in the first place. It has been a 3-year nightmare and people are waking up now.

[IronLionZion]

3. I'm hoping voter turnout will be high for us and low for them

[Turin_C3PO]

4. His base is

the three R’s (racists, redneck, the rich) plus evangelicals. No way he can win with just those groups. His ass is grass.

[ProudMNDemocrat]

5. The BEST way to deal with Trumpers.....

Is to continue to tell the truth. We will not change a lot of minds, but if we change a few, we will have made headway.

The Trump policies are hitting close to home for hundreds of Farm communities are hurting due to the trade war and tariffs. Wages are not going up as plants close. Projected GDP growth for 2019 looks to be less than half of the 4% Trump promised. The Stock Market has been chaotic at best, which affect retirement savings. And of course, impeachment looming over Trump like storm clouds ready to unleash it's fury.

[Wellstone ruled]

6. The Media is still on board with the

false narrative that 40+ percent of the US is Rethug.

They do have a strong 22-28% hard core and the rest of their support came from what we called the Mushy Middle that contains 10+ percent of the voting public.

The one key stat that most forget is,in2016 way to many people did not vote especially the Liberal leaning Indies as well as a ton of Dems.

[SKKY]

7. And since we're talking about numbers, here are a couple that give me hope...

1. 77,740. That's the number of votes, spread across WI, MI, and PA, that separated a Clinton presidency from a Trump presidency.
2. 8.4 million. That's the number of Obama voters in 2012 who switched and voted for Trump in 2016.

Does anyone really think Trump will be able to "thread that needle" again? Trump, an insurgent candidate who "caught fire" at the perfect time, AND HAD THE HELP OF THE FREAKING RUSSIANS, beat a frighteningly mediocre candidate who ran a crap campaign, and he still only managed to do so by the thinnest of margins.