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Tue Oct 8, 2019, 02:15 PM

Minor point - 2/3 of the Senate is not required to convict

6: The Senate shall have the sole Power to try all Impeachments. When sitting for that Purpose, they shall be on Oath or Affirmation. When the President of the United States is tried, the Chief Justice shall preside: And no Person shall be convicted without the Concurrence of two thirds of the Members present.

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"Two thirds of the members present".

I would strongly suggest that, in the event of Impeachment, that GOP senators be encouraged to refuse to attend as a protest against the sham of a travesty or a witch hunt, or whatever.

Some of them might miss their flights, oversleep... who knows.

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Reply Minor point - 2/3 of the Senate is not required to convict (Original post)
jberryhill Oct 8 OP
NewJeffCT Oct 8 #1
Moostache Oct 8 #2
qazplm135 Oct 8 #4
LineLineLineReply .
jberryhill Oct 8 #9
dchill Oct 8 #27
Hermit-The-Prog Oct 8 #14
Roland99 Oct 8 #20
maxsolomon Oct 8 #3
djg21 Oct 8 #5
TrogL Oct 8 #29
jmowreader Oct 8 #31
PJMcK Oct 8 #6
LiberalFighter Oct 8 #17
Tiggeroshii Oct 8 #7
11 Bravo Oct 8 #16
Tiggeroshii Oct 8 #38
miyazaki Oct 8 #8
hlthe2b Oct 8 #10
jberryhill Oct 8 #11
hlthe2b Oct 8 #12
elleng Oct 8 #13
Hermit-The-Prog Oct 8 #15
tinrobot Oct 8 #35
LiberalFighter Oct 8 #18
honest.abe Oct 8 #19
jberryhill Oct 8 #21
Midnight Writer Oct 8 #22
Pepsidog Oct 8 #23
dchill Oct 8 #25
meadowlander Oct 8 #32
Pepsidog Oct 8 #39
dchill Oct 8 #24
Pepsidog Oct 8 #26
spanone Oct 8 #28
Thunderbeast Oct 8 #30
FM123 Oct 8 #33
krispos42 Oct 8 #34
getagrip_already Oct 8 #36
William Seger Oct 8 #37

Response to jberryhill (Original post)

Tue Oct 8, 2019, 02:17 PM

1. good point

tell them the NRA wants to meet with them

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Response to jberryhill (Original post)

Tue Oct 8, 2019, 02:24 PM

2. Just put a sign outside the Senate chamber that says "Closed for Ebola"

That would make them all scurry away real quick...

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Response to Moostache (Reply #2)

Tue Oct 8, 2019, 02:27 PM

4. nah, just put up a sign that says Transgender Bathroom

 

they will congregate outside of it with cameras to protest like bees to a big ol flower.

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Response to qazplm135 (Reply #4)

Tue Oct 8, 2019, 02:31 PM

9. .

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Response to jberryhill (Reply #9)

Tue Oct 8, 2019, 04:26 PM

27. OK, that's really, really good!

LOL!

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Response to qazplm135 (Reply #4)

Tue Oct 8, 2019, 03:12 PM

14. poifect!

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Response to qazplm135 (Reply #4)

Tue Oct 8, 2019, 03:28 PM

20. Oh MY!

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Response to jberryhill (Original post)

Tue Oct 8, 2019, 02:24 PM

3. LOL, hair splitter.

That'd be a hilarious way for Trump to go down: all the GOP "moderates" simply not showing up for the vote, and 49 Dems being enough to constitute 2/3.

26 Repukes would need to oversleep. R-Money is 1.

Wish in one hand...

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Response to jberryhill (Original post)

Tue Oct 8, 2019, 02:29 PM

5. Need a quorum.

Article I, section 5 of the Constitution requires that a quorum (51 senators) be present for the Senate to conduct business. Often, fewer than 51 senators are present on the floor, but the Senate presumes a quorum unless a roll call vote or quorum call suggests otherwise

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Response to djg21 (Reply #5)

Tue Oct 8, 2019, 04:46 PM

29. How many non-Democrats to make quorum?

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Response to TrogL (Reply #29)

Tue Oct 8, 2019, 05:00 PM

31. There are 45 Democrats, 2 Independents and 53 Trump Party members

So, four Trump Party members will be enough to get the ball rolling...

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Response to jberryhill (Original post)

Tue Oct 8, 2019, 02:29 PM

6. You see, that's why we need lawyers

There are always details that the layman will miss.

Thanks for the clarity, sir.

I like the idea that the Senate could hold the impeachment trial and then vote in secret. You know that the majority of the Republicans would vote to convict if they didn't have to own their votes.

As always, you're a voice of clarity... and humor.

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Response to PJMcK (Reply #6)

Tue Oct 8, 2019, 03:24 PM

17. Couldn't be sure they would support it if it was secret vote.

At least with their vote on the record then they can't deny it with their constituents.

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Response to jberryhill (Original post)

Tue Oct 8, 2019, 02:30 PM

7. Not voting at all is almost as good as an anonymous vote.

But how manyare needed for quorum?

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Response to Tiggeroshii (Reply #7)

Tue Oct 8, 2019, 03:18 PM

16. 51, as I understand it.

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Response to 11 Bravo (Reply #16)

Tue Oct 8, 2019, 05:57 PM

38. Mcconnell can say his hands were tied and he had to hold a vote immediately.

I doubt moscow mitch would do anything of the sort, though...

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Response to jberryhill (Original post)

Tue Oct 8, 2019, 02:31 PM

8. How long can they postpone the vote?

Would be a heck of a standoff.

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Response to jberryhill (Original post)

Tue Oct 8, 2019, 02:52 PM

10. what is the rule on what constitutes a quorum?

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Response to hlthe2b (Reply #10)

Tue Oct 8, 2019, 02:55 PM

11. 51


So, 34 to convict.

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Response to jberryhill (Reply #11)

Tue Oct 8, 2019, 03:00 PM

12. Well, now, that is intriguing.

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Response to jberryhill (Original post)

Tue Oct 8, 2019, 03:10 PM

13. Gives them a way out of a difficult vote.

This is GOOD, and we should not mock them for taking it.

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Response to elleng (Reply #13)

Tue Oct 8, 2019, 03:15 PM

15. we should encourage them to stay home ...

Let Moscow Mitch and Leningrad Lindsey be the only, token, Russiapublican "Nyet!" votes.

The rest can express outrage, from a distance, that the Democrats even brought articles of impeachment.

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Response to Hermit-The-Prog (Reply #15)

Tue Oct 8, 2019, 05:09 PM

35. Maybe they could "protest" by staying home...

We could give them pearls to clutch while they watch the vote on CSPAN.

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Response to jberryhill (Original post)

Tue Oct 8, 2019, 03:25 PM

18. Some of the Republicans should go on strike.

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Response to jberryhill (Original post)

Tue Oct 8, 2019, 03:27 PM

19. Interesting.

So a bunch of no shows is what we need!

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Response to honest.abe (Reply #19)

Tue Oct 8, 2019, 03:33 PM

21. Yep, they can suddenly find that they have to wash their socks

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Response to jberryhill (Original post)

Tue Oct 8, 2019, 03:36 PM

22. Hold a Trump Appreciation Celebration and when the Republicans flock to it. take the vote.

In Wisconsin, Republicans called a recess, and as soon as the Democrats left the room, immediately reconvened and passed their bill.

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Response to jberryhill (Original post)

Tue Oct 8, 2019, 04:23 PM

23. Yes and how about trying to knock some of them out for prejudging the case. I know it's a stretch..

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Response to Pepsidog (Reply #23)

Tue Oct 8, 2019, 04:25 PM

25. Got Moscow Mitch dead to rights on that one.

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Response to Pepsidog (Reply #23)

Tue Oct 8, 2019, 05:03 PM

32. Could they theoretically be forced to recuse for a conflict of interest

if it was shown that they took NRA money linked to Russia?

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Response to meadowlander (Reply #32)

Tue Oct 8, 2019, 05:59 PM

39. Good question. Not sure if they could be conflicted out for any reason. Beyond my

knowledge but I would guess there is no precedent for excluding a member of the Senate from sitting as a juror in an impeachment proceeding. I wonder if before the trial begins the senators have to take an oath beyond their original oath.

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Response to jberryhill (Original post)

Tue Oct 8, 2019, 04:23 PM

24. See? The Devil really IS in the details!

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Response to jberryhill (Original post)

Tue Oct 8, 2019, 04:25 PM

26. Yes and how about trying to knock some of them out for prejudging the case. I know it's a stretch..

And what about their oath to listen to the evidence and discharge their constitutional duty.

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Response to jberryhill (Original post)

Tue Oct 8, 2019, 04:26 PM

28. K&R...👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼

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Response to jberryhill (Original post)

Tue Oct 8, 2019, 04:54 PM

30. How about an outing with Mark Sanford?

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Response to jberryhill (Original post)

Tue Oct 8, 2019, 05:07 PM

33. Wonderful!

They can always use the excuse my dog ate my alarm clock....

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Response to jberryhill (Original post)

Tue Oct 8, 2019, 05:07 PM

34. So let's plan for a Thanksgiving or Christmas present

Considering how many dick moves state level Repubs do with surprise votes (Wisconsin, Texas, and Virginia come to mind) then hold a surprise removal vote 5am Christmas morning.

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Response to jberryhill (Original post)

Tue Oct 8, 2019, 05:15 PM

36. knowing moscow mitch....

He will wait for all the dems to leave for recess or for the night and then hold a flash vote with only repugs present. Think NC state senate.

See, trump had a unanimous vote to not comvict!

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Response to jberryhill (Original post)

Tue Oct 8, 2019, 05:16 PM

37. Or sprout at least a cartlidge version of a spine... who knows

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