Armed conspiracy group will defend Republicans at Minneapolis Trump rally

[babylonsister]

Armed conspiracy group will defend Republicans at Minneapolis Trump rally
Wednesday, October 9, 2019 by Pete Kotz in News
A group prone to conspiracy theories and playing army will be defending Republicans from the tyranny of Antifa.


No one’s expecting Donald Trump’s Thursday rally in Minneapolis to go seamlessly. Some 20,000 mostly out-of-towners will descend on the Target Center. An even larger crowd of locals will be frothing outside. It's a recipe that makes collisions inevitable.

So Republicans will be escorted to and from their cars. That duty will fall to Oath Keepers, a “patriot” group whose members fancy themselves as “guardians of the republic.” Or as the Southern Poverty Law Center calls them, “one of the largest radical anti-government groups in the U.S. today.”

They are not the kind of people you want entering your city. Especially since they tend to be heavily armed.

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[Moostache]

1. Which Constitution do they profess to defend?

The one without Impeachment assigned to the House?

[SummerSnow]

2. An anti- goverment group that protects the government officials

[babylonsister]

5. Yes. That's a head scratcher. nt

[LuckyCharms]

3. Oh, that should go smoothly!

[Zoonart]

4. What could go wrong?

Just like having the Hells Angels as "Security" at Altemont.

[njhoneybadger]

52. That kinda shit always works out well

[bluestarone]

6. Total TWILIGHT ZONE!

What will stop these crazies? (rethugs)

[brewens]

7. They need to jack up the price for scurity now. Tell Trump it's an extra hundred large up front

because dangerous right-wing hate groups are expected to be there.

[mopinko]

15. they told them he has to pay up front-

big chunk of change upfront, or go somewhere else.
let's hope that sticks.

[Arkansas Granny]

8. It almost sounds like they are assembling a private army. I sense trouble brewing.

[MineralMan]

9. I suspect that the very few of those "Oathers" who show up

will be surprised that they get less than a warm welcome from the actual law enforcement people.

Unofficial armed people at such an event are not wanted or needed. The Secret Service, for example, has zero tolerance for firearms in people's hands at any function where the President appears.

People should simply call out the word "GUN!" in a loud voice should they encounter an Oather. The response will be immediate.

[Baked Potato]

25. Zero tolerance for inside,

but how about outside? I read Minnesota is open carry with permit, so who will respond if someone yells “Gun!” ? The article states the OathKeepers only want vetted, trained people to respond to the rally. This tells me these guys are ex-military, ex or current police or security guards, or perhaps well trained wanna-be’s. Smarter and more well equipped than usual right wing zealots. Where would the response come from?

[MineralMan]

29. There will be plenty of real cops around, both inside and out.

They will have protocols for almost everything. Random people openly carrying are not part of the security plan at all. OafKeepers don't know the rules of engagement at this event. The legitimate LEOs also don't know the Oathers. Conflicts are likely.

Based on my own experience your description of the Oathkeepers is inaccurate. They'd be wise to avoid this event, I think.

My response to the whole thing will be to stay home in St. Paul throughout the event and several hours before and after it.

[Baked Potato]

40. I hope they all stay home

Like you. Better for everyone.

[MineralMan]

41. Well, anyone with any sense will avoid that area tomorrow.

Those of us who live in the area know that part of Minneapolis. It's going to be difficult even to get there tomorrow. The light rail will still be running, I think, anyhow, but if it is, it will be very crowded. The streets around the area shut down tonight at 8 PM and will not re-open until after the rally is over and everyone has left the area.

They're telling rally attendees to get there early in the morning to be processed into the Target Center. It's going to be a long, long wait to get in and there will be nothing to do inside once you are in. Boredom will be universal.

As for the protesters, it's impossible to guess how many will show up in the first place. I'm not hearing about a big effort to get people there, frankly. Perhaps people will just let the rally happen, which would be my first choice.

[Baked Potato]

43. Good deal, I hope his venue flops

[TreasonousBastard]

10. Oath Keepers-- more like Brown Shirts. Cops and military who swear to...

defend the Constitution from the government.

They are very confused about the oaths they took and just where their loyalties lie. That they are descending upon a Trump rally is much too much like a Hitler rally in the 20's.

And yet they claim that their reason for being is that if there were a proper militia in Germany, Hitler would never have gained power. Poor, ignorant things don't know that Hitler owned the militia back then.

[ProudMNDemocrat]

33. Oathkeepers are STUPID....

The US Constitution IS the Government. Who are these people kidding?

[Midnightwalk]

11. This a bad path

An extra government armed security forces protecting a particular candidate doesn’t always stay extra government

I’m worried something happens this weekend but I’m more worried that this become a thing and grows.

I don’t like this at all.

[lunasun]

12. I wonder if the armed group includes any MN cops wearing the police union trump T-shirts?

https://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2019/10/07/mpls-police-union-selling-cops-for-trump-shirts-ahead-of-trump-rally/

[MineralMan]

30. Not too many, I imagine. Most of the actual cops will be working

overtime at the event, in uniform. Good pay; easy duty.

[lunasun]

48. Sounds like a busy day in MN . Pence will be in the state the same day. Ugh

https://minnesota.cbslocal.com/video/4183635-tensions-rise-ahead-of-mpls-trump-rally/

[MineralMan]

50. Yeah, he's supposed to be appearing at some factory in

Lakeville, about an hour south of the cities. But, then, he's supposed to show up for the rally, as well. Both the President and VP at the same location? That's a little unusual, I think.

I'll be interested to see what the turnout is like on both sides.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

13. I'll believe it when I see it.

[NightWatcher]

14. Secret Service is not going to go along with the political version of the Hells Angels/Altamont

They won't let the Principal anywhere near armed militia nuts.

[onethatcares]

16. eggzachery,

how does one differentiate tween the nuts, the nuttiers and the nuttiest? Do you get a decoder ring or a t shirt or maybe a hat? Especially if they are armed.

People always said Ted Bundy looked like the nicest of guys................

[docgee]

20. I think you get an arm band or something.

[gratuitous]

22. Easy

[Baked Potato]

27. Secret Service can't control outside of the event

Please see my posting above, number 25.

[NightWatcher]

31. I used to task force with SS and yes they can control outside of their active perimeter.

Oh the stories I can never tell.

[Baked Potato]

36. I'm sure they have a presence outside, however

they aren’t gonna start stepping in between Antifa and the OathKeepers.

[MineralMan]

37. Antifa? What makes you think they will be there?

Have you ever attended anything like this rally?

[Baked Potato]

39. Here's what's happening while we're here chatting

https://oathkeepers.org/2019/10/alert-volunteers-needed-to-protect-trump-supporters-at-minneapolis-trump-rally/

See what they’re recruiting for.

-AND-

https://itsgoingdown.org/call-for-an-anti-capitalist-bloc-at-the-anti-trump-protest-in-minneapolis/

There you go.

Now, whether any of this comes off, who knows. I hope everyone stays home like you said you are going to do.

[MineralMan]

42. Neither of those links necessarily will generate a lot of people

showing up. They are calls for people to show up, but there's no reason to think hordes of people will actually show up.

It's easy to post something like that on the Internet. So easy that any idiot can do it. So, there is always an idiot ready to do it. We will find out tomorrow how many people show up. Turnouts are often disappointingly small on both sides.

Announcements like those are meaningless on their own.

[Baked Potato]

44. It's not wise to underestimate any of this

That’s how we got Trump.

[MineralMan]

46. Nor is it wise to overestimate.

In reality, unless you're planning to show up at that rally, it's not going to matter, is it?

The media will be there. We'll see what transpires.

[lunasun]

45. Creeper Keepers offers hotel room and food

mission critical supplies too
VOLUNTEERS WHO CAN MAKE IT, AND TO SUPPORT OUR MISSION. WE WILL BE REIMBURSING GAS MONEY FOR OUR VETTED VOLUNTEERS, AS WELL AS PROVIDING HOTEL ACCOMMODATIONS AND FOOD FOR THEM, AND MISSION-CRITICAL SUPPLIES

[Baked Potato]

47. And free towing

When their cars break down, lol.

[beachbumbob]

17. methinks this could turn ugly easily and the Mayor should not allow the rally without

prepayment and even then, the very threat of violence would be enough to cancel

[scarytomcat]

24. yes mayor should cancel it

a president with his own private armed force is a scary thing
must be stopped

[safeinOhio]

18. I hope no one

lights off a string of firecrackers.

[smirkymonkey]

19. Great, just what we need. An armed, Trump-worshipping, paramilitary group just looking for

an opportunity to start something. These people are just itching for Trump to say "go", or even imply it and they will use it as a defense of their actions.

[lunasun]

53. They claim to stop problems , but have been the problem in the past. From the OP link-

“The problem is that Oath Keepers has a dark history too, and it's a bit more alarming.

The president of a suburban Cleveland chapter got 20 years for stockpiling bombs. Another member was imprisoned for tweeting violent threats about attacking the Oklahoma state government over taxes. Still another was convicted of raping his 7-year-old daughter.

The group has shown up heavily armed at the Ferguson, Missouri protests and Cliven Bundy’s Nevada standoff with the federal government. So bringing them to Minneapolis is a bit like dumping lighter fluid on a national forest”

[smirkymonkey]

54. They will not be there to stop problems, I am sure of it.

They are going to cause them. You see what their history is like. These are not good people. I really hope that nobody is hurt on Thursday. Trump has been lighting a fire under them and it's only a matter of time before they carry out his wishes.

[pecosbob]

21. I'd make the group officially sign liability waivers for the damage and expenses they cause

before granting them a permit. Seems legal to me...I don't think you can hold a political gathering without a permit. Anyone?

[Goodheart]

23. So, it's on then?

Did Minneapolis cave?

[2naSalit]

26. Is that even legal?

[flibbitygiblets]

28. another reason Mnpls should shit-can this whole rally

Fascists--armed fascists--descending on the city and then Trump stiffing them with the bill for security. Sounds like a hard "No" is in order.

[0rganism]

32. Hell's Angels. Altamont. The "winning" continues...

but apparently there is nothing new under the sun

[kacekwl]

34. Target center, lock the doors

and turn off the lights. Whoever's in charge there would be CRAZY to let anyone inside that place. Let them hold they rump rally in the street if the mayor allows it.

[ProudMNDemocrat]

35. It is very crowded by the Target Center.....

With businesses. Kieran's Irish Pub, O'Donovan's, 1st Avenue, etc. The Wharehouse District encompasses several blocks each side of Target Center, as well as the Hiawatha Line

[MineralMan]

38. Yes. It's going to be a very good place to avoid tomorrow.

That's what I plan to do. Let the Trumpsters have their little rally. Then, they'll leave and return to their homes.

[lpbk2713]

49. Keyboard Commandos playing dress-up in their camo costumes.

They're a joke.

[brush]

51. It's starting to get scary. Sounds like trump now has his own brownshirts.

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Does the fool actually think we're all going to stand by and let his thugs rampage in the streets and burn the capitol building one night like the nazis did in Germany in the '30s? Thes fascist have greatly underestimated us and many of them are going to fucking jail if they try any of that nazi crap.

[C_U_L8R]

55. Paranoid paramilitary freaks

Oath Keepers, my ass.

[Blue Owl]

56. There's gonna be a few dozen empty mother's basements tomorrow

n/t