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brettdale

(12,389 posts)
Wed Oct 9, 2019, 07:57 PM Oct 2019

Im guessing the real reason people voted for trump were

They didn't vote for the economy.

They didn't vote for security.

They didn't vote for housing or roads or education.

They weren't really scared of the mexican man, or the Muslim man.

They voted for one reason....

They just had eight years of the black man being president, and there
was no way they were going to follow that with a woman president.

It had nothing to do with Trump. Hillary was doomed from the start.

It was pure racism and sexism.

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Im guessing the real reason people voted for trump were (Original Post) brettdale Oct 2019 OP
I said this election night. Nt PCIntern Oct 2019 #1
Yet people tried to peddle the economic anxiety bullshit dalton99a Oct 2019 #2
Do not forget the rich thieves who received their GOP tax cut. guillaumeb Oct 2019 #3
The 1%ers voted for the tax cuts. The rest voted for the racism. LonePirate Oct 2019 #7
I'd add a percentage that voted for Trump because of abortion and only abortion Polybius Oct 2019 #15
A large portion of the anti-choice crowd are racists who think abortion is decimating the white race LonePirate Oct 2019 #22
Thankfully, I haven't met any of those Polybius Oct 2019 #24
The right worked all through the Benghazi hearings to destroy Hillary's chances. They bragged about wasupaloopa Oct 2019 #4
We've seen what he can do Leith Oct 2019 #20
Right on ! jimlup Oct 2019 #5
Yep. TrishaJ Oct 2019 #6
I agree with the op but don't forget that Hillary WON the popular vote with a margin of 3 million abqtommy Oct 2019 #8
I'm sure it was much more than 3 million... dchill Oct 2019 #26
of course it was racism and sexism Skittles Oct 2019 #9
Trump told it like it is Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Oct 2019 #10
totally agree with you. nt iluvtennis Oct 2019 #11
Amen to the OP . . ! OldManTarHeel Oct 2019 #12
Studies made that clear back in 2017. Garrett78 Oct 2019 #13
That certain covers a large percentage of people who voted for Trump but Snake Plissken Oct 2019 #14
Beat me to it. Ligyron Oct 2019 #23
There's plenty of racism and sexism among women and POC. Garrett78 Oct 2019 #30
Yes and he packaged it all in a show similar to Professional Wrestling. gordianot Oct 2019 #16
Oh, I thought they wanted a successful businessman to run the country. a kennedy Oct 2019 #17
Don't forget that Hillary WON the popular vote by 3 MILLION votes. groundloop Oct 2019 #18
One thing that never gets mentioned enough is that... thenelm1 Oct 2019 #19
I've certainly mentioned Hillary Hate as a major factor. 25 years of vitriol takes a toll. Garrett78 Oct 2019 #29
Misogyny is still alive. Duppers Oct 2019 #21
I knew this before election night. BigmanPigman Oct 2019 #25
I think there is another type of Trump voter. smirkymonkey Oct 2019 #27
or maybe it is that republicans own the machines that count our votes? questionseverything Oct 2019 #28
90% racism. nt oasis Oct 2019 #31

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
3. Do not forget the rich thieves who received their GOP tax cut.
Wed Oct 9, 2019, 08:02 PM
Oct 2019

Many of them are also racists and sexists.

Polybius

(15,514 posts)
15. I'd add a percentage that voted for Trump because of abortion and only abortion
Wed Oct 9, 2019, 10:21 PM
Oct 2019

I met a few. They are not really into politics unless the topic of abortion comes around. Some are very anti-racist too.

LonePirate

(13,433 posts)
22. A large portion of the anti-choice crowd are racists who think abortion is decimating the white race
Wed Oct 9, 2019, 10:51 PM
Oct 2019
 

wasupaloopa

(4,516 posts)
4. The right worked all through the Benghazi hearings to destroy Hillary's chances. They bragged about
Wed Oct 9, 2019, 08:05 PM
Oct 2019

it.

My sister-in-law and her husband voted for trump. When we asked why she said "let's see what he can do."

I think they voted against Hillary.


In 2020 if your idea is not on the ballot vote against trump don't sit it out.

abqtommy

(14,118 posts)
8. I agree with the op but don't forget that Hillary WON the popular vote with a margin of 3 million
Wed Oct 9, 2019, 08:59 PM
Oct 2019

votes and it was corruption and ratfuckery that installed tRUMP in the White House.

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
13. Studies made that clear back in 2017.
Wed Oct 9, 2019, 10:15 PM
Oct 2019

Hatred for immigrants and Muslims is, indeed, part of the equation.

Snake Plissken

(4,103 posts)
14. That certain covers a large percentage of people who voted for Trump but
Wed Oct 9, 2019, 10:15 PM
Oct 2019

1/3 of Hispanic women voted for Trump and rough 50% of White women voted for Trump

As a White male that absolutely blows my fucking mind. I'm the demographic that Trump supposedly represents and the only way you could have stopped me from voting against Trump in 2016 was to put a bullet in my head.

And that's not even getting into how much all around better Hillary Clinton was at every single aspect needed in the leader of the Free World.

Ligyron

(7,644 posts)
23. Beat me to it.
Wed Oct 9, 2019, 10:53 PM
Oct 2019

The first and second sentence in your text took the words right of of my mind which, as you say, is blown.

How the $#%& on earth...

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
30. There's plenty of racism and sexism among women and POC.
Thu Oct 10, 2019, 12:32 AM
Oct 2019

Women who think women have no place in politics, POC who hate POC, etc.

gordianot

(15,249 posts)
16. Yes and he packaged it all in a show similar to Professional Wrestling.
Wed Oct 9, 2019, 10:23 PM
Oct 2019

They know Trump is fake and they enjoy the outrageous show. There is enough televangelist in this act to appeal to pseudo Christians. The best epitaph is repeated when they say; “He sounds like me.”

a kennedy

(29,744 posts)
17. Oh, I thought they wanted a successful businessman to run the country.
Wed Oct 9, 2019, 10:24 PM
Oct 2019
Like he’s the best business man EVER. NOT.

groundloop

(11,529 posts)
18. Don't forget that Hillary WON the popular vote by 3 MILLION votes.
Wed Oct 9, 2019, 10:40 PM
Oct 2019

It was just the fucked up electoral college (which automatically give repubs an instant 1% advantage) which beat her.

Here's the report on a study done by researchers at the University of Texas at Austin which backs that up:

https://slate.com/business/2019/09/electoral-college-republican-advantage-texas-economics-paper.html


And here are their findings in chart form :



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thenelm1

(855 posts)
19. One thing that never gets mentioned enough is that...
Wed Oct 9, 2019, 10:45 PM
Oct 2019

I also think that one thing that never gets mentioned enough is that the Republicans invested almost 25 years with smears and innuendo, poisoning the well so speak, against Hillary. In that campaign they were and have been successful. There was way too little push back against their lies and rumors about her, and that view was ingrained into enough voters in the "undecided"/"independent" crowd to sway the election, even though she won the popular vote. Think about it. There are still quite a number of people that, when her name comes up, get all indignant about how corrupt she was/is -based on what? Republican BS? She's been accused of just about every imaginable crime in all this time and yet?

We maybe lost two prior presidential elections to the EC with Shrub. To me, the Dems just never seem to get that they are facing an intractable enemy that will do/say anything to maintain power - and the Dem power structure refuses to see that they need to fight back HARD! Throw the right's krap back at them HARD. These asses have done nothing positive for the country since forever. This shouldn't be a hard case to make to the electorate, but damn, stop playing nice. They won't - and in the end, they are a minority party in actual numbers.

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
29. I've certainly mentioned Hillary Hate as a major factor. 25 years of vitriol takes a toll.
Thu Oct 10, 2019, 12:27 AM
Oct 2019

The biggest impact it had was suppressing Dem turnout and boosting 3rd party voting. It wasn't so much that Obama voters voted for Trump as it was hundreds of thousands of Obama voters across key states *not* voting for Clinton.

Between that (having a much less polarizing nominee) and Trunp's numbers, I'd be really confident about 2020 were it not for how desperately corrupt the Republican Party is. I think voter suppression will be worse than ever, and that's saying something. And then there's foreign interference.

Duppers

(28,130 posts)
21. Misogyny is still alive.
Wed Oct 9, 2019, 10:50 PM
Oct 2019

"Pure pure racism and sexism."

I fear misogyny could play a roll in Elizabeth Warren's candidacy. She's a magnificent candidate but will the fact she's a woman keep some narrow-minded independent voters from voting?

BigmanPigman

(51,648 posts)
25. I knew this before election night.
Wed Oct 9, 2019, 10:58 PM
Oct 2019

I think we have not changed at all and a woman POTUS is still too radical for the morons in the US. I would love a Warren/Harris combo!

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
27. I think there is another type of Trump voter.
Wed Oct 9, 2019, 11:23 PM
Oct 2019

There are those who aren't really motivated by racism, but by pure hatred of "liberal elites".

The people that I know in my family are not really racist, I have never actually heard them say anything racist and maybe that is because they live in lilly white areas where they don't have to deal with racial issues, but when they speak of Democrats/Liberals they are constantly talking about what weak, bleeding-heart, self-righteous, politically correct, arrogant, pretentious snobs we are.

They feel like they are looked down upon by us, and they are in a way. My brother and I are the liberals in the family and my parents and other brother and sister are conservative (of varying degrees, my siblings are not as rabid as their spouses). It is not really about race for them, but about feeling less than "snobby liberals". I suspect there are a lot of other right wingers who feel the same way. In other words, I don't think pure racism is driving every republican vote.

The bottom line is that I think there is something else besides racism driving the republicans/Trump lovers, even though a majority of them are racist. It has something to do with a deeply-seated inferiority complex within them and a resentment against those who take the moral high-ground. They know they are scum and they resent those of us who remind them of it.

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