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Zaphod42

(92 posts)
Tue Oct 15, 2019, 04:20 PM Oct 2019

Maybe it's just me, but...

I am very new here at DU, and am still feeling my way around, digging though threads, etc... So far, I confess to being somewhat disappointed.

I have, so far, seen very little actual "discussion" here at DU. Mostly what I see is members copying/pasting large sections of some news article into a "post", and then linking to the article at the bottom. The replies to these posts tend to be very short, knee-jerk reactions, seemingly intended to elicit similar "counter replies"; folks here seem to just enjoy "egging things on"....

Maybe I just haven't looked deeply enough yet; maybe there is some actual "discussion" going on here at DU. Maybe somewhere on here there is somebody who actually writes something (greater than two sentences) from their heart...an actual opinion...a point of view, maybe...

So far here at DU, I've only seen a bunch of folks who like to anonymously bitch, gripe, and groan about the news of the day. Is this a "news aggregation site", or a "discussion forum"? Maybe there's some thought provoking stuff here somewhere; I'll keep digging....



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Maybe it's just me, but... (Original Post) Zaphod42 Oct 2019 OP
It is both a news aggregation site AND a discussion forum. hlthe2b Oct 2019 #1
Welcome to DU. Sorry you're not enjoying the experience. Arkansas Granny Oct 2019 #2
You're not wrong. SharonClark Oct 2019 #3
I'll do that, Zaphod42 Oct 2019 #20
Try searching the Groups for topics you want to discuss. There's not a lot of participation but in2herbs Oct 2019 #4
Thanks Zaphod42 Oct 2019 #21
Is there another site you prefer? dawg day Oct 2019 #5
Hey, I'm relatively new here, also,.... Sogo Oct 2019 #6
not new but Piasladic Oct 2019 #9
I've found a lot of good topics I've saved, my only complaint about DU is... JuJuYoshida Oct 2019 #7
This message was self-deleted by its author elocs Oct 2019 #10
Now I have that song stuck in my head.... dawg day Oct 2019 #11
The nature of posts follow the nature of the news cycle genxlib Oct 2019 #8
Thank you Zaphod42 Oct 2019 #22
Here's one you can sink your teeth into eleny Oct 2019 #12
Good read Zaphod42 Oct 2019 #23
Or this from the old version of the site KatyMan Oct 2019 #32
This message was self-deleted by its author elocs Oct 2019 #13
There are many really good discussions going on Farmer-Rick Oct 2019 #14
I'll keep that in mind Zaphod42 Oct 2019 #24
You might need a time machine. mahina Oct 2019 #36
Welcome to DU! check out General Discussion, Latest Breaking News and The Lounge yellowdogintexas Oct 2019 #15
It doesn't help that we're not notified of replies. Are we supposed to bookmark all our posts and NCLefty Oct 2019 #16
click on the MY POSTS tab Skittles Oct 2019 #18
Yes Zaphod42 Oct 2019 #25
that you would have to ask the Admins Skittles Oct 2019 #37
See below Zaphod42 Oct 2019 #26
DU is an oasis away from the sick repuke world Skittles Oct 2019 #17
Well, You Got Here RobinA Oct 2019 #19
Look for H2O Man's posts--they are think pieces, as are Shockey80's, and many of Soph0571's. tblue37 Oct 2019 #27
Thank you Zaphod42 Oct 2019 #42
I love D.U., I like the short articles. blueinredohio Oct 2019 #28
okie dokey... Zaphod42 Oct 2019 #40
I hate to be rude, but if you don't like us you can always leave. Vinca Oct 2019 #29
I blame the news cycle for a lot of that impression. ramen Oct 2019 #30
Good advice Zaphod42 Oct 2019 #41
Maybe you have some more recovering to do first. MrsCoffee Oct 2019 #31
Touche' Zaphod42 Oct 2019 #39
You might like some of Nance Greggs' posts, also. kentuck Oct 2019 #33
Oh great. Another anonymous bitching thread. nt LexVegas Oct 2019 #34
I should have mentioned Atticus, too, and PCIntern. nt tblue37 Oct 2019 #35
There is a lot of both. I've been here since 2001. I wouldn't have stayed if Aristus Oct 2019 #38
Props Zaphod42 Oct 2019 #43
They were in the TV show, though. Aristus Oct 2019 #44
After watching the movie... Zaphod42 Oct 2019 #45
The TV show is notable for the graphics representing the HHGTTG. Aristus Oct 2019 #46
Interesting... Zaphod42 Oct 2019 #47
It's on DVD. Aristus Oct 2019 #48
Ok, Ok... Zaphod42 Oct 2019 #49
Hi and welcome. Crunchy Frog Oct 2019 #50
Thanks for your reply. Zaphod42 Oct 2019 #51

hlthe2b

(102,239 posts)
1. It is both a news aggregation site AND a discussion forum.
Tue Oct 15, 2019, 04:30 PM
Oct 2019

You should expect the same range of types of responses.

SharonClark

(10,014 posts)
3. You're not wrong.
Tue Oct 15, 2019, 04:33 PM
Oct 2019

DU tends to have some discussions, mostly in the non-political threads. Political threads are often used to share articles of interest to the poster followed by short responses or epithets regarding Trump or other nasty people.

You've already posted this thoughtful piece, maybe you can post more of these and see if the responses are more of what you expected from DU.

in2herbs

(2,945 posts)
4. Try searching the Groups for topics you want to discuss. There's not a lot of participation but
Tue Oct 15, 2019, 04:33 PM
Oct 2019

it's supposed to be a "safe" area to share ideas about pets, gardening, end of life issues, music, environment, etc. DM me if you start one cuz I'd like to join the discussion. I think there are some who monitor some Groups cuz when I've posted looking for some info I've gotten quick replies and from nice posters. Sometimes I need a break from politics. Welcome.

dawg day

(7,947 posts)
5. Is there another site you prefer?
Tue Oct 15, 2019, 04:35 PM
Oct 2019

There are a lot of alternatives that you might choose from that would better suit what you're looking for. No site works for everyone, after all.

Sogo

(4,986 posts)
6. Hey, I'm relatively new here, also,....
Tue Oct 15, 2019, 04:37 PM
Oct 2019

and I'll tell ya, I didn't come in as a newbie and start throwing shade....Sheesh....Not very impressive....

Just sayin'....

Piasladic

(1,160 posts)
9. not new but
Tue Oct 15, 2019, 04:46 PM
Oct 2019

I almost never commented in the past, but I realize that was a mistake. DU is DU because of the back and forth. To comment and pose questions is what makes this my favorite place to come home to.

JuJuYoshida

(2,215 posts)
7. I've found a lot of good topics I've saved, my only complaint about DU is...
Tue Oct 15, 2019, 04:43 PM
Oct 2019

You can check out any time you like, but you can never leave.

Response to JuJuYoshida (Reply #7)

genxlib

(5,526 posts)
8. The nature of posts follow the nature of the news cycle
Tue Oct 15, 2019, 04:44 PM
Oct 2019

On days like these, news is coming fast and furious. Commentary, likewise, gets reduced to largely drive-by snarking.

When there is time for a deep breath, there is time for more serious commentary. It comes and goes.

My recommendation would be to sort by the "Greatest Threads" to see the posts with the most activity. Many of those will have the minimalist input that you are complaining about but that is also where you find the most substantive discussion.

It is a community and like all communities, it comes with the good and the bad. But it is here to be found.

Welcome.

KatyMan

(4,190 posts)
32. Or this from the old version of the site
Wed Oct 16, 2019, 09:32 AM
Oct 2019

Last edited Wed Oct 16, 2019, 10:07 AM - Edit history (1)

https://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=105&topic_id=624815

This is the funniest thing I've read here.

This is a great great site, give yourself time to get into it, it is hard at first.

Response to Zaphod42 (Original post)

Farmer-Rick

(10,163 posts)
14. There are many really good discussions going on
Tue Oct 15, 2019, 05:11 PM
Oct 2019

Usually when a new issue or story has just broken, you get the most diverse opinions. Check out some older popular threads.

But if you are wanting something specific post a question. DUers love to answer questions, even hypothetical questions, and we provide links for further reading.

mahina

(17,651 posts)
36. You might need a time machine.
Wed Oct 16, 2019, 01:11 PM
Oct 2019

Look back at the old DU. I first read it on Jan 21 2001. We had great posters, some of whom you see on the In Memoriam page. One, Khephra, gathered great journalism from all over the world. People responded.

I wonder where your impression what what DU would or should be was formed?

Anyway like everything else, it’s what you make it.

Welcome to DU!

yellowdogintexas

(22,252 posts)
15. Welcome to DU! check out General Discussion, Latest Breaking News and The Lounge
Tue Oct 15, 2019, 05:41 PM
Oct 2019

Lots of talking and stress busting in the Lounge. It is pretty much non political except for humor. Lots of cat pictures. The Lounge is where you meet people.

Also if you look under places, your state will have a group.
There are several subgroups under Reading and Writing, Home and family which I enjoy.

NCLefty

(3,678 posts)
16. It doesn't help that we're not notified of replies. Are we supposed to bookmark all our posts and
Tue Oct 15, 2019, 10:04 PM
Oct 2019

then go back repeatedly to check for replies? This alone renders most replies "fire and forget," and most attempts at conversation suffer for it.

/shrug

 

Zaphod42

(92 posts)
25. Yes
Wed Oct 16, 2019, 05:44 AM
Oct 2019

I see that the "My Posts" turns yellow when there are new replies...

Why is there no option to "recommend" replies?

tblue37

(65,340 posts)
27. Look for H2O Man's posts--they are think pieces, as are Shockey80's, and many of Soph0571's.
Wed Oct 16, 2019, 06:11 AM
Oct 2019

Several other DU regulars also post such essays.

blueinredohio

(6,797 posts)
28. I love D.U., I like the short articles.
Wed Oct 16, 2019, 06:48 AM
Oct 2019

I read a lot of news here that I would otherwise never hear. I like the shorter posts. I don't want to read a book and I have my own opinions I sometimes read other people's opinions but it doesn't change my mind so really I could care less.

ramen

(790 posts)
30. I blame the news cycle for a lot of that impression.
Wed Oct 16, 2019, 07:01 AM
Oct 2019

Things are so frantic right now that we are buried in trying to respond to, or at least catalog, or at least notice, each new pint of fresh hell served up all day, and every day. I think it's understandable.

There is still discussion. Try staying out of LBN and GDP and see if you see any differently (this is advice I should try.. I am guilty of glueing to the news cycle because I am so scared about what is going on).

Also, if you haven't already tried this, start some discussions on topics that interest you and see if people bite. I'll keep an eye out and participate constructively.

There's my 0.02, anyhow

MrsCoffee

(5,801 posts)
31. Maybe you have some more recovering to do first.
Wed Oct 16, 2019, 09:24 AM
Oct 2019

Your profile says you are a recovering conservative. I’m sure this is all pretty new for you.



Aristus

(66,328 posts)
38. There is a lot of both. I've been here since 2001. I wouldn't have stayed if
Wed Oct 16, 2019, 04:24 PM
Oct 2019

there wasn't some substantive discussion going on.

Keep your heads, Zaphod; you'll find what you're looking for...

Just be sure to bring your Joo Janta Peril-Sensitive Sunglasses with you...

 

Zaphod42

(92 posts)
43. Props
Wed Oct 16, 2019, 06:25 PM
Oct 2019

for the HG reference!! I remember those from the book, but they don't show up in the BBC radio production, as I recall...

 

Zaphod42

(92 posts)
45. After watching the movie...
Wed Oct 16, 2019, 07:16 PM
Oct 2019

which I regret, btw, I just couldn't bring myself to watch the TV series. For me, the genius of the HG just doesn't translate well to visual media. I'd much rather just listen to it, and "see it" in my mind...

Back in 1981, our local NPR station, in Tuscaloosa, AL, broadcast the BBC Radio production of the HG...one 30 minute episode every Sunday evening. 3 of my buddies and I always made sure at least one of us was recording it. I've still got 2 or 3 of those old cassette tapes stored somewhere....

Aristus

(66,328 posts)
46. The TV show is notable for the graphics representing the HHGTTG.
Wed Oct 16, 2019, 07:32 PM
Oct 2019

They were lauded as 'excellent computer animation', but were all actually hand-drawn animation cels. They're superb, and provide a freeze-frame bonus for sharp-eyed viewers.

 

Zaphod42

(92 posts)
47. Interesting...
Wed Oct 16, 2019, 07:35 PM
Oct 2019

Maybe I'll relent and give it a look. It can be streamed from somewhere, I imagine...?

Aristus

(66,328 posts)
48. It's on DVD.
Wed Oct 16, 2019, 07:37 PM
Oct 2019

Interesting fun fact regarding the show: The sunrise at the beginning of the first episode is simply a common light bulb rising up behind a diorama of the countryside where Arthur lives. Talk about low-budget special effects!

Crunchy Frog

(26,579 posts)
50. Hi and welcome.
Wed Oct 16, 2019, 07:54 PM
Oct 2019

I've been here for a very long time, and I would say that the quality of the posts is not what it used to be.

There are often discussions of controversial issues, but they tend to turn into shouting matches with holders of differing views treated as heretics.

There are definitely positives though. DU can feel like an oasis of sanity in a world that feels like it's going insane.

I hope you'll stick around for awhile and give it a chance. I think we all hope to see more recovering conservatives.

Another site you might want to check out is Daily Kos.

Oh, and whatever you do, don't check out this old thread. https://upload.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=105x7950254

 

Zaphod42

(92 posts)
51. Thanks for your reply.
Thu Oct 17, 2019, 05:00 PM
Oct 2019

I'll definitely be hanging around DU. For all my grumbling, I do like the site overall. The snark factor here is quite impressive...!

I am a member over at DKos. I post many lengthy political comments there, but I have not written any political diaries as of yet. I mainly stick to writing pieces for several sub-groups... gardening, cooking, etc....

I ignored your clear instructions not to check out your linked thread...but couldn't see the pictures...I've never used "photo bucket", whatever that is....

Thanks again for your reply and your welcoming thoughts!

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