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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsJohn Henry Newman has been canonized. How will church react to belief he was gay??
William Lindsay brings this up at his blog bilgrimage.blogspot.com
He emphasizes the long attempt by many in church to conceal and deny Newman's long relationship with Father Ambrose
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John Henry Newman has been canonized. How will church react to belief he was gay?? (Original Post)
bobbieinok
Oct 2019
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NCLefty
(3,678 posts)1. What's one more delusion?
Pope Franciss half-miracle: why hell need more than that to become a saint
Mon 23 Mar 2015 12.13 EDT
Is the vial half-full or half-empty? This is the question facing the Catholic church after the half-miracle that occurred when Pope Francis visited Naples cathedral at the weekend. After addressing the congregation, the pope kissed a glass vial containing the blood of Saint Januarius, the citys patron saint, which is when the supposed half-miracle occurred. Crescenzio Sepe, archbishop of Naples, held the vial up to the congregation and declared: The blood has half-liquefied, which shows Saint Januarius loves our pope and Naples.
It was said to be the first time the blood had liquefied in the presence of a pope since 1848. The blood remained untransfigured during the visits of John Paul II in 1979 and Benedict XVI in 2007. Since John Paul was made a saint less than 10 years after his death, surely Francis, too, will now have to be fast-tracked or half-fast-tracked. Francis, though, was admirably modest about it. The bishop just announced that the blood half-liquefied, he told the congregation. We can see the saint only half loves us. We must all spread the word, so that he loves us more! For Francis, it seems, the vial was half-empty.
Mon 23 Mar 2015 12.13 EDT
Is the vial half-full or half-empty? This is the question facing the Catholic church after the half-miracle that occurred when Pope Francis visited Naples cathedral at the weekend. After addressing the congregation, the pope kissed a glass vial containing the blood of Saint Januarius, the citys patron saint, which is when the supposed half-miracle occurred. Crescenzio Sepe, archbishop of Naples, held the vial up to the congregation and declared: The blood has half-liquefied, which shows Saint Januarius loves our pope and Naples.
It was said to be the first time the blood had liquefied in the presence of a pope since 1848. The blood remained untransfigured during the visits of John Paul II in 1979 and Benedict XVI in 2007. Since John Paul was made a saint less than 10 years after his death, surely Francis, too, will now have to be fast-tracked or half-fast-tracked. Francis, though, was admirably modest about it. The bishop just announced that the blood half-liquefied, he told the congregation. We can see the saint only half loves us. We must all spread the word, so that he loves us more! For Francis, it seems, the vial was half-empty.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/shortcuts/2015/mar/23/pope-francis-half-miracle-need-more-to-become-saint
Hekate
(90,867 posts)2. Wasn't it Pope Francis himself who said, "Who am I to judge"?
Perhaps that is your answer.
hlthe2b
(102,419 posts)3. Could scarcely be the only one out of 10,000 Saints
There are more than 10,000 saints recognized by the Roman Catholic Church, though the names and histories of some of these holy men and women have been lost to history.
Encyclopedia Britannica
Mc Mike
(9,115 posts)4. I used to go to Newman Center Catholic masses, at U Cal.
Him being gay doesn't seem to have caused me any harm.
But I'm just a rank and file catholic. The hierarchy frequently isn't at the forefront of doing the moral or good thing.