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(13,903 posts)to the christofascist base and the moral cowards in the Senate.......meh.
TheRealNorth
(9,481 posts)Last edited Thu Oct 17, 2019, 06:06 PM - Edit history (1)
What we need to understand is that Trump's base supports him using government institutions to go after Democrats, like a fascist police state would.
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)They can go to hell.
lastlib
(23,226 posts)Until they do, they are in the way. McTurdle first and foremost.
dameatball
(7,397 posts)TheRealNorth
(9,481 posts)I think it's at least 20% population (And at least half of the Republicans).
AdamGG
(1,291 posts)If it was only 20%, it would be easier to get Senate votes for impeachment/removal.
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)And we (Dems) need to quit pretending we could ever get a single vote from one of Trump's Despicables. No point in fantasies that we could placate them. Get our side to the polls and get the effing job done.
stopdiggin
(11,306 posts)and that's why the solid Trump base is still a problem.
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)Constant focus on a small group of idiots gives them an undeserved importance.
I say we use that glass to burn them like ants under the sun.
stopdiggin
(11,306 posts)InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
BluNoMatterHu
(31 posts)Could you imagine?! I wonder what the chances are....
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
malaise
(268,993 posts)bdamomma
(63,849 posts)base as a excuse. The filthy repigs got big money.
leftstreet
(36,108 posts)uponit7771
(90,336 posts)Zaphod42
(92 posts)If it keeps them in the majority. In the Senate, especially. Even without controlling the WH, they will have the Senate, and the Judiciary. As long as they can maintain a veto proof majority, they are golden. Breaking the law is the only way that they can stay in power, and their base "approves this message." They will skirt, and skate, and obfuscate. In the end, they are not really breaking the law...just doing what's best for the American People....Believe me, I see it all the time down here. The ends justify the means for the base. After all, "them damn libruls" been breaking the law for years...
Just an additional thought: Doesn't "Al-Qaeda" translate to English as "The Base"? Hmmm....
uponit7771
(90,336 posts)... democracy like Putin.
They don't believe in one person, one vote and each vote is equal and that's the basis of them breaking the law; those people aren't equal ...
I now live in a part of a city where Trumpets literally say this crap out loud
Zaphod42
(92 posts)Two words: "those people". Down here, it's just "them people"...usually just "them". Racism down here has become much more subtle these past few years. "Them"now not only includes blacks...immigrants, and gays...it's anybody who defends or advocates for "them". A "librul" is right down there with a "n@**#r" down here....
Dark days are ahead, my friends....
Buckeye_Democrat
(14,853 posts)A former neighbor told me about a free music concert that he attended downtown, but he left early because "there were too many Democrats there".
I asked him how he knew they were Democrats. Were many of them wearing political shirts or something?
He looked at me like I was stupid, and then said "black people".
Kablooie
(18,634 posts)lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)I'm an atheist; my ideas of heaven, hell, and afterlife are concrete and based on social realities right here on Earth.
Cognitive_Resonance
(1,546 posts)bigbrother05
(5,995 posts)"Quid pro quo" relies a lot on "cui bono".
Is it for the good of many or only for one?
maxsolomon
(33,338 posts)"investigate corruption" is what Obama's State Dept wanted too, right?
SuprstitionAintthWay
(386 posts)...for corruption who was NOT a political rival of yours?"
THAT one shut him up for a second.
"We'll get back to you on that."
Then fled to his helicopter.
helpisontheway
(5,007 posts)They might slip up and reveal some of their criminal activities.
Nasruddin
(754 posts)They don't have anything but criminal activities to talk about
Haggis for Breakfast
(6,831 posts)Let that sink in for a second.
S E V E N M O N T H S.
Initech
(100,070 posts)unblock
(52,219 posts)First Speaker
(4,858 posts)...why would he openly admit it otherwise...?
LuckyLib
(6,819 posts)Blanks92
(5 posts)This is another calculated set-up to keep this fiasco on the front page? A smokescreen of sorts..for what purpose?
JTOL
(46 posts)Conspiracy to defraud the United States of a free and fair election in 2020 by the POTUS. The QPQ was the only item missing from the Mueller Report.
crickets
(25,976 posts)Welcome to DU!
Duppers
(28,120 posts)They care only about their racism, religion, and guns. Nothing else matters to them.
This negates rule of law and our Constitution, does it not?
WyattKansas
(1,648 posts)National Intelligence threat investigation into something that was still an ongoing threat to national security?
pbmus
(12,422 posts)Just the scapegoat smokescreen...
WyattKansas
(1,648 posts)It is linked to the NY Office working with National Intelligence.
MontanaMama
(23,314 posts)pbmus
(12,422 posts)MontanaMama
(23,314 posts)And she sure did.
triron
(22,002 posts)malaise
(268,993 posts)Down they go
pbmus
(12,422 posts)malaise
(268,993 posts)know the name of the whistle blower? What are they afraid of?
DFW
(54,376 posts)They are afraid they won't be able to kill him/her or kidnap their family before testimony begins if they don't know whom they're looking for.
malaise
(268,993 posts)think about it as well
Evolve Dammit
(16,725 posts)dreamed of. And the air waves/ cyber waves are populated by enablers, right wing enthusiasts, trolls, Neo-Nazis, conspiracy nut jobs and other foreign and domestic bots as well. This magnifies the strong messaging thanks to the loss of the Fairness Doctrine and the enactment of Citizens United which has created an enormous injection of cash that subsidizes all of the above.
pbmus
(12,422 posts)SpankMe
(2,957 posts)Rand Paul is saying that conditions are placed on most foreign aid in order to motivate the receiving countries to promote U.S. or peaceful/humanitarian interests in exchange for the aid - including assurances that the aid money won't disappear in a black hole of corruption.
This is true, but that's not what's happening here.
What's happening here is that POTUS was threatening to withhold aid money unless Ukraine directed resources toward sullying the reputation of his political opponent.
Problem is, that sullying operation could also be described as an investigation into internal Ukranian corruption.
So, they're pushing hard on this alternate justification to distract from the actual reason. They'll be on Fox News relentlessly pounding the "pay-no-attention-to-that-man-behind-the-curtain" with respect to the quid pro quo.
They're killing America.
klook
(12,154 posts)2. Everybody does it.
3. If we did it, it wouldnt be a crime.
4. We did it.
5. Clinton / Obama/ Biden did other stuff that was worse.
OMGWTF
(3,955 posts)thenelm1
(854 posts)BigmanPigman
(51,590 posts)Mulvaney along with his GOP colleagues they just stood there shaking their heads in disbelief. He said it was like, "Good luck cleaning up after THIS now".
Duppers
(28,120 posts)Easy to confuse since they're both great men.
Both could have said this and I just didn't see Schiff saying it too?
BigmanPigman
(51,590 posts)As the saying goes, "Right church, wrong pew".
LiberalFighter
(50,914 posts)lindysalsagal
(20,682 posts)out of disgust for their gangster husbands. Now, murderers.
napi21
(45,806 posts)LiberalLovinLug
(14,173 posts)No doubt this goes beyond just Biden and his son. I'm sure they were willing to take any and all dirt on any and all Democrats.
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(107,972 posts)And there are really some stupid ones.
BootinUp
(47,144 posts)AdamGG
(1,291 posts)Maraya1969
(22,479 posts)To just openly admit that they broke laws because they know the Senate won't do anything is very is very scary.
It will continue until people see that there are consequences to they're actions
Liberty Belle
(9,535 posts)If enough just don't show up for the vote, that's enough to get Trump removed.
pbmus
(12,422 posts)xxqqqzme
(14,887 posts)I think there is a bus coming and you might be in the way.
calimary
(81,258 posts)MAN, when I heard him say that, my jaw dropped all the way to my collarbone.