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tblue37

(65,527 posts)
Mon Oct 21, 2019, 07:39 PM Oct 2019

Hillary did not call Tulsi a Russian asset. That's what she called Jill Stein.

This discussion thread was locked as off-topic by NancyBlueINOklahoma (a host of the General Discussion forum).

What she said (without actually naming Tulsi but strongly hinting at her) was that a woman candidate in the Dem primary was being groomed as a third-party candidate and supported by Russian bots.

There's a difference between calling someone an asset and suggesting they are a useful idiot.

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Hillary did not call Tulsi a Russian asset. That's what she called Jill Stein. (Original Post) tblue37 Oct 2019 OP
This is the same media that brought us trump. How did that email thingy work out NY Times and other still_one Oct 2019 #1
92 million eligible American voters sat home in 2016, and that wasn't all because of the media. NCLefty Oct 2019 #16
Funny how all the pundits are rephrasing what HRC actually said. lapucelle Oct 2019 #2
Hillary seems to have that effect on them StarfishSaver Oct 2019 #3
Exactly. Hillary never used Gabbard's name. Tulsi is the one who claimed it..if the shoe fits, huh iluvtennis Oct 2019 #10
Not quite. vsrazdem Oct 2019 #4
Exactly - but it still doesn't equate to saying Tulsi is working for or even with Russia. redqueen Oct 2019 #14
Yep, and the suspected asset/useful idiot outed herself by her over-the-top defense on FOX... brush Oct 2019 #5
great, siphon off his voters Demonaut Oct 2019 #12
That's what makes zero sense about this. Tulsi Laura PourMeADrink Oct 2019 #13
one would think but she still spouts progressive ideas, not palatable to trump voters, at least Demonaut Oct 2019 #15
She has already said she will not run third party Laura PourMeADrink Oct 2019 #17
and she does not reserve to change her mind? Demonaut Oct 2019 #19
Tulsi, Stein...I keep getting them mixed up. abqtommy Oct 2019 #6
I think she meant that both Stein and Gabbard are Russian assets Progressive dog Oct 2019 #7
Yes but Stein did, Tulsi won't. Gotta be a third party Laura PourMeADrink Oct 2019 #18
An asset isn't an agent. An agent is witting; an asset is just useful. n/t pnwmom Oct 2019 #8
Absolutely correct. I wish ... LAS14 Oct 2019 #9
Thank you for reminding of the essential details. Further, an asset is not an agent. Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2019 #11
Locking - Gabbard is a primary candidate OKNancy Oct 2019 #20

still_one

(92,493 posts)
1. This is the same media that brought us trump. How did that email thingy work out NY Times and other
Mon Oct 21, 2019, 07:53 PM
Oct 2019

media outlets? Hardly a mention that nothing was found about mishandling classified information

Convenient that very little is mentioned about this?



NCLefty

(3,678 posts)
16. 92 million eligible American voters sat home in 2016, and that wasn't all because of the media.
Mon Oct 21, 2019, 10:57 PM
Oct 2019

Many things brought up Trump.

lapucelle

(18,388 posts)
2. Funny how all the pundits are rephrasing what HRC actually said.
Mon Oct 21, 2019, 07:55 PM
Oct 2019

The usual suspects are pushing yet another phony story line.



 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
3. Hillary seems to have that effect on them
Mon Oct 21, 2019, 07:56 PM
Oct 2019

iluvtennis

(19,901 posts)
10. Exactly. Hillary never used Gabbard's name. Tulsi is the one who claimed it..if the shoe fits, huh
Mon Oct 21, 2019, 10:12 PM
Oct 2019

vsrazdem

(2,177 posts)
4. Not quite.
Mon Oct 21, 2019, 08:00 PM
Oct 2019


“They have a bunch of sites and bots and other ways of supporting her so far.” She added: “That’s assuming Jill Stein will give it up, which she might not because she’s ALSO a Russian asset.

redqueen

(115,108 posts)
14. Exactly - but it still doesn't equate to saying Tulsi is working for or even with Russia.
Mon Oct 21, 2019, 10:42 PM
Oct 2019

So there was still no need for Tulsi to completely flip her shit.

brush

(53,971 posts)
5. Yep, and the suspected asset/useful idiot outed herself by her over-the-top defense on FOX...
Mon Oct 21, 2019, 08:03 PM
Oct 2019

of all places. What Dems rush to FOX for an audience to defend themselves? Does she somehow think most FOX viewers are Dems, or does she have another target audience in mind?

Demonaut

(8,937 posts)
12. great, siphon off his voters
Mon Oct 21, 2019, 10:17 PM
Oct 2019

on edit, it was explained to me why that's not a great idea

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
13. That's what makes zero sense about this. Tulsi
Mon Oct 21, 2019, 10:40 PM
Oct 2019

Would pick off many if not more repukes than Dems. Starting to think the whole thing is just a diversion. We've got a fucking clown in the white house.!

Demonaut

(8,937 posts)
15. one would think but she still spouts progressive ideas, not palatable to trump voters, at least
Mon Oct 21, 2019, 10:43 PM
Oct 2019

not enough to make a difference but the damage to the dems would be terrible, look at the last presidential election and jill stein

Green Party???

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
17. She has already said she will not run third party
Mon Oct 21, 2019, 10:59 PM
Oct 2019

If every Dem doesn't vote Dem this time with trump there...there is zero hope for us. If we do not pick someone who has the best chance to beat the moron than we will have him for four more years. It's that simple.

Demonaut

(8,937 posts)
19. and she does not reserve to change her mind?
Mon Oct 21, 2019, 11:58 PM
Oct 2019

abqtommy

(14,118 posts)
6. Tulsi, Stein...I keep getting them mixed up.
Mon Oct 21, 2019, 08:07 PM
Oct 2019

Progressive dog

(6,931 posts)
7. I think she meant that both Stein and Gabbard are Russian assets
Mon Oct 21, 2019, 08:11 PM
Oct 2019

in their scheme to take votes from the Democratic nominee.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
18. Yes but Stein did, Tulsi won't. Gotta be a third party
Mon Oct 21, 2019, 11:13 PM
Oct 2019

To hurt and there isn't one. (Yet) right? Jill Stein isn't running again is she?

pnwmom

(109,021 posts)
8. An asset isn't an agent. An agent is witting; an asset is just useful. n/t
Mon Oct 21, 2019, 08:30 PM
Oct 2019

LAS14

(13,791 posts)
9. Absolutely correct. I wish ...
Mon Oct 21, 2019, 08:34 PM
Oct 2019

...all DUers and Dem candidates understood this!!

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287319139

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,064 posts)
11. Thank you for reminding of the essential details. Further, an asset is not an agent.
Mon Oct 21, 2019, 10:14 PM
Oct 2019

Your post helped set me straight.

OKNancy

(41,832 posts)
20. Locking - Gabbard is a primary candidate
Tue Oct 22, 2019, 06:10 AM
Oct 2019
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