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Not too early to speculate about VPs if Pence becomes POTUS (Original Post) yellowcanine Oct 2019 OP
What a horrible thought. gab13by13 Oct 2019 #1
Not too early to speculate about preventive measures empedocles Oct 2019 #2
A VP can't be appointed in such a case. berni_mccoy Oct 2019 #3
Not true. President nominates, Congress ratifies. yellowcanine Oct 2019 #12
Requires majority vote of both houses of Congress berni_mccoy Oct 2019 #22
Kennedy assassination was before the 25th Amendment. yellowcanine Oct 2019 #24
You'll never get a majority vote in the House to support any Repub becoming VP berni_mccoy Oct 2019 #29
They might support a Mitt Romney or a Lisa Murkowski, pnwmom Oct 2019 #38
I think pence might resign and trump might appoint another evil doer who is not mucifer Oct 2019 #4
Very possible IMO get the red out Oct 2019 #5
He can't appoint without consent. LiberalFighter Oct 2019 #7
I believe both House and Senate majorities are required to approve a new VP nominee by ooky Oct 2019 #8
He can't. Confirmation of a new VP OliverQ Oct 2019 #14
Yes NewJeffCT Oct 2019 #21
Pence will not resign unless someone has him by the nuts. yellowcanine Oct 2019 #16
Is it just too outlandishly hopeful badseedboy Oct 2019 #6
Yes it is. OliverQ Oct 2019 #17
If Pence was smart (which he ain't) he would resign LiberalFighter Oct 2019 #9
Pence is drooling PJMcK Oct 2019 #23
Why? exboyfil Oct 2019 #26
I think he would try and get Nikki Haley book_worm Oct 2019 #10
And Nikki Haley (or a Haley type) would be tough for the Democrats to reject. Gidney N Cloyd Oct 2019 #34
A VP nomination needs approval by both houses of Congress StarfishSaver Oct 2019 #11
Falwell Jr.? moondust Oct 2019 #13
Yes, it is. maxsolomon Oct 2019 #15
99% chance he would ask Nikki Haley scheming daemons Oct 2019 #18
And 100% chance the House wouldn't confirm her. StarfishSaver Oct 2019 #19
Not so sure about that. scheming daemons Oct 2019 #20
Not sure Haley would accept. She might choose to run against Pence for the nomination. yellowcanine Oct 2019 #25
Or she is following the same news we are, and calculates that Pence has a pending impeachment in the salin Oct 2019 #36
Jerry Falwell Jr., Ivanka, or Don Jr. n/t hibbing Oct 2019 #27
Huckabee madamesilverspurs Oct 2019 #28
OK I am not ready for a First Mother Blue Owl Oct 2019 #30
Pence cannot become POTUS because he's going to be impeached lettucebe Oct 2019 #31
I don't see Pence getting removed first which means he would become POTUS immediately if Trump is yellowcanine Oct 2019 #32
Future impeachment does not sarisataka Oct 2019 #33
I don't see how Pence gets out of this unscathed. Vinca Oct 2019 #35
Based on the McConnell Doctrine, there will be no VP approved during an election year. madinmaryland Oct 2019 #37
 

berni_mccoy

(23,018 posts)
3. A VP can't be appointed in such a case.
Tue Oct 22, 2019, 01:11 PM
Oct 2019

There would be no VP if Pence success Trump via impeachment. At least until the next election.

 

berni_mccoy

(23,018 posts)
22. Requires majority vote of both houses of Congress
Tue Oct 22, 2019, 02:28 PM
Oct 2019

That won't happen.

No one filled LBJ's VP vacancy when he became POTUS after Kennedy was assassinated.

There already is built-in succession so it's not necessary.

yellowcanine

(35,699 posts)
24. Kennedy assassination was before the 25th Amendment.
Tue Oct 22, 2019, 02:48 PM
Oct 2019

The better historical analogy is Nixon-Agnew-Ford-Rockefeller

After the Kennedy assassination there was concern about the danger of a VP vacancy, particularly during the tense times of the Cold War. So the 25th amendment was proposed and ratified. Then around the time of Watergate VP Agnew was forced to resign over bribe taking as Governor of Maryland. Nixon nominated Ford and he was ratified by a Democratically controlled Congress (House and Senate). Then when Nixon resigned and Ford became President, Ford nominated Rockefeller and he was confirmed by again, a Democratically controlled Congress. Ford of course pardoned Nixon, which weakened him in the 1976 election and made it a bit easier for Carter to win. The Reagan challenge of Ford also hurt him with Republican conservatives. Ford tried to mollify the conservatives by choosing Dole as a running mate rather than sticking with the liberal (for a Republican) Rockefeller but it didn't really work because Dole was seen as a somewhat abrasive "hatchet man" at the time.

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
38. They might support a Mitt Romney or a Lisa Murkowski,
Tue Oct 22, 2019, 07:35 PM
Oct 2019

depending on what happens in the upcoming months.

mucifer

(23,548 posts)
4. I think pence might resign and trump might appoint another evil doer who is not
Tue Oct 22, 2019, 01:13 PM
Oct 2019

involved in Russia but just as dangerous as trump and pence. So when trump gets impeached we will struggle with a different right wing money grubbing a hole who would be our new president.

That's my prediction.

ooky

(8,923 posts)
8. I believe both House and Senate majorities are required to approve a new VP nominee by
Tue Oct 22, 2019, 01:44 PM
Oct 2019

the President. 25th amendment.

 

OliverQ

(3,363 posts)
14. He can't. Confirmation of a new VP
Tue Oct 22, 2019, 01:52 PM
Oct 2019

requires approval of both Houses of Congress. Pelosi will never allow an evil Trump pick to get approved.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
21. Yes
Tue Oct 22, 2019, 02:06 PM
Oct 2019

I think that's how Nixon ended up with Ford - a moderate Republican acceptable to both parties.

badseedboy

(174 posts)
6. Is it just too outlandishly hopeful
Tue Oct 22, 2019, 01:24 PM
Oct 2019

to think that pence, too, will go down for complicity, leaving Pelosi next in line?

 

OliverQ

(3,363 posts)
17. Yes it is.
Tue Oct 22, 2019, 01:53 PM
Oct 2019

It's still almost a zero percent chance that Republicans convict and remove Trump from office. They sure as heck will never in a million years convict Pence too knowing Pelosi would become President.

LiberalFighter

(50,942 posts)
9. If Pence was smart (which he ain't) he would resign
Tue Oct 22, 2019, 01:44 PM
Oct 2019

so he wouldn't have the pardon hanging over his head to do for Trump.

PJMcK

(22,037 posts)
23. Pence is drooling
Tue Oct 22, 2019, 02:29 PM
Oct 2019

I think since the day Manafort selected him to be the VP candidate, Pence has seen this as his chance to become president.

Like his boss, Pence is an idiot.

exboyfil

(17,863 posts)
26. Why?
Tue Oct 22, 2019, 03:04 PM
Oct 2019

His political career is over either way. His best play is to continue to be the loyal VP without exposing himself too much legally. Or they may have a bargain regarding pardons for each other.

Either in December, 2020 or December, 2024 there will be the pardon express. I bet dozens of them floating to the principles.

book_worm

(15,951 posts)
10. I think he would try and get Nikki Haley
Tue Oct 22, 2019, 01:46 PM
Oct 2019

1) so she doesn't challenge him
2) they know they need to appeal to female voters

Gidney N Cloyd

(19,839 posts)
34. And Nikki Haley (or a Haley type) would be tough for the Democrats to reject.
Tue Oct 22, 2019, 05:23 PM
Oct 2019

I don't trust or like her but she's managed to keep her hands looking clean to average voters.

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
11. A VP nomination needs approval by both houses of Congress
Tue Oct 22, 2019, 01:47 PM
Oct 2019

That ain't gonna happen.

If Trump is impeached and removed, Nancy Pelosi will be first in line until a new president is elected.

moondust

(19,988 posts)
13. Falwell Jr.?
Tue Oct 22, 2019, 01:51 PM
Oct 2019

The possibilities are endless now that you don't need any public service experience, brains, talent, or integrity to hold the highest office in the land. The only qualification is the willingness to lie your ass off on an hourly basis.

salin

(48,955 posts)
36. Or she is following the same news we are, and calculates that Pence has a pending impeachment in the
Tue Oct 22, 2019, 06:32 PM
Oct 2019

queue. Then she becomes president and gets to name a successor.

madamesilverspurs

(15,805 posts)
28. Huckabee
Tue Oct 22, 2019, 03:05 PM
Oct 2019

Knowing full well he wouldn't be approved, but banking on that to provide "proof" that Democrats are "anti-Christian" (not to suggest that Huckabee is any kind of Christian)…


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lettucebe

(2,336 posts)
31. Pence cannot become POTUS because he's going to be impeached
Tue Oct 22, 2019, 04:56 PM
Oct 2019

He's in this thing up to his neck. Same with Barr. It's going to be a blood bath, which is why the repugs are working so hard not to impeach Trump and get the ball rolling.

yellowcanine

(35,699 posts)
32. I don't see Pence getting removed first which means he would become POTUS immediately if Trump is
Tue Oct 22, 2019, 05:03 PM
Oct 2019

removed. It sucks but that is the way it works.

sarisataka

(18,659 posts)
33. Future impeachment does not
Tue Oct 22, 2019, 05:14 PM
Oct 2019

Prevent a VP from becoming President if the office becomes vacant. The VP would have to be impeached and then removed before the President.

Vinca

(50,276 posts)
35. I don't see how Pence gets out of this unscathed.
Tue Oct 22, 2019, 05:26 PM
Oct 2019

If he happens to, I'd expect the ass licker Pompeo to be near the top of the list.

madinmaryland

(64,933 posts)
37. Based on the McConnell Doctrine, there will be no VP approved during an election year.
Tue Oct 22, 2019, 07:27 PM
Oct 2019

Well, maybe Lee Mercer, Jr. would have a chance. Eye spy, National and international, all three.

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