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All of this DOJ investigation will lead to Barr and Trump going after Obama, he is the elephant in the room. I believe Obama will be indicted by Barr. Trump is insanely obsessed with Obama. Trump is a malignant narcissist, and all narcs have a target. Obama is the target. He is salivating just to say that Obama is indicted, he's a criminal, etc. He can't wait. He wants more than anything in this world to mar Obama's good name and his popularity and admiration from the American public and his good name with foreign leaders.
OKNancy
(41,832 posts)Too many steps to an indictment especially when Obama did nothing wrong.
No grand jury would indict him anyway.
SummerSnow
(12,608 posts)They will lie, frame, threaten, create false testimonies and submit false documents to go after Obama. The AG is a conspiracy theorist and a Trump loyalist. Whatever Trump wants, Barr will give it to him.
FormerDittoHead
(5,155 posts)What a media circus that would be for them.
Oh god. Please let this end.
madaboutharry
(40,210 posts)That will be the catalyst that will cause 100 million people to pour out into the street.
I don't think Barr and Trump have the balls for that.
But as I say, what I know!
SummerSnow
(12,608 posts)gab13by13
(21,336 posts)to get an indictment.
SummerSnow
(12,608 posts)they sure hell will try their best to do it
mn9driver
(4,425 posts)Even Barr isnt crazy enough to try to frame Obama over something that has already been thoroughly investigated with nothing found.
The sole purpose of the investigation is to give Trump something to lie about to make his base feel better. There will be periodic leaks designed to make a headline or two, but thats it. There is no there, there. An actual indictment would result in all the lies being exposed in court.
Trump is nuts, but Barr is not. This investigation will end up producing exactly the same amount of evidence as Trumps investigation into Obamas birth certificate.
SummerSnow
(12,608 posts)Even if he doesn't get him indicted. he wants to see him being questioned in a hearing for hours, have Obama hire lawyers, disrupt his peace, be able to say at a rally that Obama is being investigated. Try to mar his name and image.
Act_of_Reparation
(9,116 posts)It won't work. Obama is smarter and more popular. If Barr calls him in to testify, Obama will drag him like the idiot he is.
And most people won't buy it, because (as noted) most people like Obama more than Trump or Bill Barr. It might rile up the howler monkey wing of the GOP, but who gives a shit.
Johnny2X2X
(19,066 posts)They will go after Comey though and other officials. And they'll try to tie it to Joe Biden somehow. This is a political show, the DOJ is now part of the Trump Campaign for President.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)for his political Russian, Ukrainian, etc., junk. It wouldnt, of course, but I guess it would muddy waters.
bluestarone
(16,931 posts)They want Obama AND Biden! This is their plan! They tried to manufacture dirt on Biden and AGAIN will try to make all look bad!
flibbitygiblets
(7,220 posts)I think they'll go after lower-level "deep state" people to discredit the "Russia thing". And Trump will likely SAY that BO was behind it, which will piss people off but probably won't impact turnout at the polls much for Dems (although it would likely increase turnout for R's).
Solomon
(12,310 posts)is that nothing a president does can be criminal. Obama was president during the time in question. What's he gonna say to justify it? "But Obama's black"?
ProudMNDemocrat
(16,785 posts)Bully Barr would be up against a worthy opponent if he went after Barack Obama. Michelle would tear him a new asshole as well. Both are Harvard Law grads.
CharleyDog
(757 posts)They have been hinting at this since the Dawn of the Pervy president and
now at last, it's HAPPENED. It is sickening to read, but then everything they say is sickening (yes, my "family" is in the cult).
They won't actually indict Obama, but they will indict Strzok, McCabe, Comey, Yates, maybe Clapper and Brennan, but that will be tough.
My guess is only Strzok, McCabe, and Comey will take the brunt of this actual kangaroo kourt. Those three may be enough to salve the perv's hurt fee fees about being illegitimate and a popular vote loser. Even when it all falls apart, it's a win for the RWNJ just to drag their enemies in the mud. and we know just how much the Perv hates Strzok, McCabe and Comey. Messing with Obama, though, would backfire too much, he's too powerful, so I think they will stick with the most powerless, as usual, as typical for fascism.
A thorn in Barr's side, though, is his very real involvement in bribery and extortion uncovered in the Ukraine Impeachment inquiries and may lead to: Barr attacking the DOJ while also being investigated for crimes; sort of Barr v. Barr. who will win? Barr!! He has all the power unless Congress hits him hard with a ton of bricks (I hope).
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tman
(983 posts)It isn't good for one's health or thought process.
Trump and his gang are dangerous clowns but let us ease up on the hyperventilating.
Such an unthinkable move is not only legally untenable but would bring about strong social and political pushback, the likes of which we have never seen in this country.
Do the GOP want to see record African American voting turnout and protests in every major city in the United States?
RhodeIslandOne
(5,042 posts)That will be the end of Bullshit Barr, Dump and any other fucking idiot like Little Lindsey and Bitch McConnell who want to tag along.
Hes been screaming LOCK HER UP and done absolutely shit. Obama?! LOL!
Cosmocat
(14,564 posts)They could go after Hillary and any one past that, and the country would accept it.
BHO, and maybe Biden, not sure, but I am pretty sure if they go after BHO there will be a pretty big negative response from the country at large.
brush
(53,776 posts)This whole fake Barr probe is too preposterous to succeed as it's all trumped up nonsense (pun intended).
Most will recognize it for what it isthe introduction of fascism where you can arrest political opponents and end our democracy.