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Holy shit!!!! All of Mueller Report ordered released by DC District Ct Judge!! (Original Post) TruckFump Oct 2019 OP
and they will appeal and delay still_one Oct 2019 #1
Could get an expedited appeal. TruckFump Oct 2019 #2
+1, it's good news and our expectations are set accordingly uponit7771 Oct 2019 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Oct 2019 #3
Yep, along with all the GJ testimony TruckFump Oct 2019 #5
Well, the Conservative Caucus wants openness and transparency. No more Closed Doors. Midnight Writer Oct 2019 #6
Yes, they certainly are going to just that ! TruckFump Oct 2019 #7
The unredacted report? maryellen99 Oct 2019 #8
I am betting so but would like confirmation. triron Oct 2019 #9
Yes. This is the ordering clause in the opinion: onenote Oct 2019 #13
From what I have read, it appears so. TruckFump Oct 2019 #10
It will be slow-walked to the Supreme Court. Patterson Oct 2019 #11
Not if the lower court orders an expedited appeal. TruckFump Oct 2019 #12
I don't think the District Court can tell the SCOTUS to expedite the case. onenote Oct 2019 #14
Does not go directly to the SCOTUS. Goes to D.C. Cir. Ct. TruckFump Oct 2019 #16
Several options are available onenote Oct 2019 #17
IMO, I don't think that SCOTUS will get involved. TruckFump Oct 2019 #18
Agree with you that the disclosure to the Committee of the redacted GJ material could put a damper onenote Oct 2019 #19
Seems to be interesting timing on this. TruckFump Oct 2019 #21
I assume that means that only House investigators will get to see it, not the general public renate Oct 2019 #15
IMO, for now. TruckFump Oct 2019 #22
Chairman @RepJerryNadler released the following statement Gothmog Oct 2019 #20
K&R smirkymonkey Oct 2019 #23

Response to TruckFump (Original post)

Midnight Writer

(21,732 posts)
6. Well, the Conservative Caucus wants openness and transparency. No more Closed Doors.
Fri Oct 25, 2019, 04:07 PM
Oct 2019

I hope, yet somehow doubt, that this move towards transparency makes them happy.

onenote

(42,642 posts)
13. Yes. This is the ordering clause in the opinion:
Fri Oct 25, 2019, 04:23 PM
Oct 2019

For the foregoing reasons, HJC [House Judiciary Committee]'s application is granted. Consequently, DOJ is ordered to provide promptly, by October 30, 2019, to HJC all portions of the Mueller Report that were redacted pursuant to Rule 6(e) and any underlying transcripts or exhibits referenced in the portions of the Mueller Report that were redacted pursuant to Rule 6(e). HJC is permitted to file further requests articulating its particularized need for additional grand jury information requested in the initial application."

I'm not certain what the last sentence is referring to -- will have to read through the opinion (75 pages) to find out.

onenote

(42,642 posts)
14. I don't think the District Court can tell the SCOTUS to expedite the case.
Fri Oct 25, 2019, 04:24 PM
Oct 2019

The key question is whether the order will be stayed pending further appeal.

TruckFump

(5,812 posts)
16. Does not go directly to the SCOTUS. Goes to D.C. Cir. Ct.
Fri Oct 25, 2019, 04:30 PM
Oct 2019

And the Supremes do not have to issue cert on it if the Trumpets appeal on a Cir. Ct. decision not in their favor. Either side can request an expedited appeal. It can be ordered.

onenote

(42,642 posts)
17. Several options are available
Fri Oct 25, 2019, 04:38 PM
Oct 2019

First, Trump can ask the District Court to stay its decision. If the judge follows the Watergate precedent, she might grant the stay conditioned on an appeal being filed within four or five days.
Second, Trump could appeal to US Ct. of Appeals for DC and ask them for a stay. Might be granted, particularly if the court is asked for and grants a request for expedited review.
Third, either or both Trump and the HJC could petition the SCOTUS for "certiorari before judgment" -- in other words, to skip over the Court of Appeals and go straight to the SCOTUS. This is the procedure followed in the Nixon case during Watergate, where both sides petition for certiorari before judgment and the SCOTUS granted the petitions "because of the public importance of the issues presented and the need for their prompt resolution." In the Watergate example, the SCOTUS ruling came roughly two months after the District Court ruling.

TruckFump

(5,812 posts)
18. IMO, I don't think that SCOTUS will get involved.
Fri Oct 25, 2019, 05:01 PM
Oct 2019

I used to do a lot of Fed appeals work. My law partner had been a Clerk on the 9th cir. before he was an AUSA in Calif Central District and all of this prior to private practice. But it has been years and all in Calif Central District to the 9th cir. I am used a liberal court, especially back when I was in active practice. IMO, too political for SCOTUS. That is just a gut reaction more than anything. Betting that they dodge this.

I don't think the Feddie courts will allow the Trumpets to sloooooooooow walk this. I also think, and it's ironic, that this is or could be a problem for the Barr crim investigation on how the Mueller investigation started. Once all the facts are out and Barr cannot spin it, it could be (I hope) the end of this kind of BS coming from Barr for the benefit of Trump that some crime was involved re the investigation of the 2016 election.

onenote

(42,642 posts)
19. Agree with you that the disclosure to the Committee of the redacted GJ material could put a damper
Fri Oct 25, 2019, 05:28 PM
Oct 2019

on Barr's effort to discredit the entire Mueller investigation.

TruckFump

(5,812 posts)
21. Seems to be interesting timing on this.
Fri Oct 25, 2019, 05:58 PM
Oct 2019

Here the crim investigation is ordered...and this is the next event. Karma IMO.

renate

(13,776 posts)
15. I assume that means that only House investigators will get to see it, not the general public
Fri Oct 25, 2019, 04:29 PM
Oct 2019

Which is fine with me, if it means there's less of a basis for the DoJ to fight this on.

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