Breaking: Judge rules DOJ must turn over Mueller grand jury material to House Judiciary Committee

[StarfishSaver]

https://www.politico.com/news/2019/10/25/judge-rules-doj-must-turn-over-mueller-grand-jury-material-to-house-democrats-000299

[onenote]

1. Text of opinion (not just order) here:

https://ecf.dcd.uscourts.gov/cgi-bin/Opinions.pl?2019

[StarfishSaver]

2. Thanks!

[Gothmog]

14. Thanks.

It is a 75 page opinion that appears to be well written. Some fun reading for this weekend if I am not busy training poll watchers

[Eliot Rosewater]

3. And as I just explained to the other post on this

they wont comply.

WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND this is not the USofA anymore. this is rump putin barr land. The WH and DOJ will not comply.

The WH wont comply and the DOJ wont force them.

grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

We can become USofA again maybe someday, but we are not now. What makes us US is the rule of law, no such thing exists right now.

[StarfishSaver]

4. Whomp whomp

But its out of DOJ's hands now. This is a court order. We're not in Kansas anymore, Toto.

[Eliot Rosewater]

5. What? Who has the report?

think about it for a minute

They will either NOt TURN it over or what they turn over will be changed, stuff left out.

I dont want this to be true, I am just frustrated that people dont yet get it, we are under dictator control because of the combo of rump the traitor and Barr.

They dont have to do anything anymore, laws dont matter anymore.

Yesterday I took HEAPS OF SHIT FOR asking the GOP who went into the SCIF to be arrested, but what was I thinking, WHO is gonna arrest them, the DOJ ...no, you see, the DOJ is a crooked operation now.

[StarfishSaver]

7. You need to find out how court orders work

The House of Representatives may not throw anyone in jail for contempt, but you can bet that if any of these people do find themselves in contempt of court for defying a court order, Beryl Howell has the power to throw them in jail and will no doubt exercise it.

But since you think nothing anyone does will matter, why even comment? Why not just accept that we're all doomed and accept the fate we cannot change?

[Eliot Rosewater]

9. I hope you are right, I really do. I am not going to comment again on this until

we see what happens.

[blaze]

15. Howell has the power to throw them in jail and will no doubt exercise it.

Thank you! I was just getting ready to ask, "What next!"

[LeftInTX]

18. They can appeal to the Supreme Court

If the SC agrees, then they must comply.

The judge who wrote the order is an Obama appointee.

[Gothmog]

6. This is great news

[TeamPooka]

8. Barr doesn't comply and he won't be the first AG to go to jail.

[Locutusofborg]

10. The Trump Administration will get an injunction

From a Trump appointed federal judge while they appeal this ruling to the U.S. Court of Appeals. Then it will be on to the Supreme Court which will rule 5-4 in Trump’s favor sometime next year.

[StarfishSaver]

12. Ok.

Thanks for your input...

[Arazi]

16. Yup

Link to tweet

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[onenote]

17. Not how it works.

They can't just go pick a judge. They can ask the District Court judge who handed down the decision to stay the order pending appeal and I wouldn't be surprised if she granted it (following the precedent set in the US v. Nixon) case. If she doesn't grant the stay, Trump can ask the DC Circuit to issue the stay pending appeal -- again they don't get to "pick" a Trump appointed judge. Again, I think its likely the stay would be granted and the case handled on an expedited basis. Or either side could petition for "certiorari without judgment" -- a procedure whereby the case jumps straight to the SCOTUS from the District Court -- the procedure that was followed in the US v. Nixon case. If they want to ask a single Supreme Court Justice to stay the order pending appeal, they would have to go to Roberts first.

In all likelihood the case will be fast-tracked, just as the US v. Nixon case was -- Roberts won't lightly depart from that precedent. The US v Nixon case was resolved by the SCOTUS roughly two months after the District Court ordered Nixon to turn over the sought after materials.

I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that you aren't an attorney.

[Arazi]

11. It will be appealed. Running out the clock is their 1st tactic

Ultimate decision to deny the GJ materials to the HJC will come from the corrupt SCOTUS.

They'll never get turned over imo

[Gothmog]

13. Chairman @RepJerryNadler released the following statement

Link to tweet