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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsDemocratic Party should not waste money on trying to convert MAGA voters into Democratic party votes
FOX News Propaganda Works!What can possible be said to convince this women and other MAGA citizens to vote for Democratic candidates in this 2020 election?
Spend the money on getting out the real Democratic voters, get the voters who are disenfranchised registered and counted. Plan on the fact Donald Corruption Trump will do anything to get re-elected including contacting foreign government to help plant forged documents on democratic party candidates.
If you care about the United States of America you better see that Trump is not re-elected in 2020 and do whatever you can to ensure Trump's defeat!
Emma Vigeland From The Young Turks Try Her Best to Reason With Off-The-Rails MAGA Lady!
Arkansas Granny
(31,516 posts)going to turn on him now. The best we could hope for is that they would vote third party or not turn out at all.
Girard442
(6,071 posts)Attempts to engage in compromises that would appeal to MAGATs stand a really good chance of turning off potential D voters. You could end up losing 10 liberal/progressive voters for every R converted to a D.
Vinca
(50,271 posts)votes and that there are no voters staying home sulking because their candidate isn't the nominee. No staying home, no third party. If we don't hang together, we could get 4 more years of the raving idiot.
Fiendish Thingy
(15,611 posts)Especially among young voters.
Moderate Dems are less likely to stay home than progressive ones, so logically it would follow to not worry about alienating those voters with a progressive nominee, and instead focus on motivating young voters who prefer a more progressive nominee.
Demsrule86
(68,576 posts)She runs in a very blue district held by Democrats for decades. And we need more than Democrats for statewide and national elections...we no longer have 'base' elections in these sort of elections...we have to attract independents and there are moderate Democrats too. I suggest you read up on the wins during the midterms and this year too. We need to get out there and win over people...but until then we have run candidates who fit the districts, states etc...50 state strategy and the big tent approach is the only way we win and have ever won.
Vinca
(50,271 posts)I don't know about you, but I'd walk over broken glass barefoot to vote for a Democratic tree stump over Trump.
Fiendish Thingy
(15,611 posts)However, 77,000 in the Rust Belt would not in 2016. We need a candidate who will inspire 77,000+ new young voters in the Rust Belt to to show up at the polls.
Vinca
(50,271 posts)of voting he's the only candidate I ever felt "inspired" by. We have plenty of fine candidates and the 77,000 should get their noses out of their phones and pay attention to what's going on in the world. We're one election away from the loss of democracy.
beachbumbob
(9,263 posts)we all know it was the ones that harped on the "lesser of 2 evils" as a reason to vote for stein or not vote at all. If those voters still don;t understand how they undermined our country, there is nothing we can do about them either.
moreland01
(739 posts)We absolutely do get mileage out of showing the craziest of the crazy so that non-crazy right-leaning republicans and independents see them as the face of trumpism. They're revolting to most normal people. The more the craziest are portrayed as trump voters, the more it will turn off people; hopefully those that haven't been paying too much attention so far.
greymattermom
(5,754 posts)will vote for a Democratic candidate. Focus on turn out and swing districts in the few states where votes count. Like Georgia!
SallyHemmings
(1,821 posts)Its like chasing a love interest who is not interested.
Far too many of the angry voters spend too much time watching Faux news instead of adapting to the changing world.
I grew up in a small town where people drove at least thirty minutes to livable wage employment.
The steel company sold to a German company in the mid 90s.The jobs and town died. After 38 years my Dad had 80 percent of his pension and benefits( he was lucky one). At 58 he had to find a job. Not an easy transition, but he did it.
If I cant get an opportunity because of racism, sexism or whom you love that is an economic issue.
If I cant get an affordable education, that is an economic issue.
If I cant decide the size of my family, that is an economic issue.
If I cant affordable health CARE, that is an economic issue.
I am tired of the media referring to these issues as cultural, it all goes back to economics.
Register voters and turn them out.
Beartracks
(12,814 posts)NRaleighLiberal
(60,014 posts)GOTV instead!
bucolic_frolic
(43,161 posts)Shake their minds to apathy! That is why they matter to us. To demoralize them is a patriot's duty.
myohmy2
(3,163 posts)...absolutely...
...we need the majority of the 20% middle for the national and the purple locals...
...the deep red is a waste of time and money...
...of course, I could be wrong...
dawg day
(7,947 posts)60% of women are for impeachment.... women are more accessible than the white non-college men who often seem not rational about why to vote. Women were important in VA and AL... really easier because issues matter more to them.
It's hard to appeal to the voters who have mostly emotional reasons for voting for Trump.
oldsoftie
(12,536 posts)Look at the Obama voters who ended up voting for trump; I wouldnt call them MAGA voters. MAGA voters would have NEVER voted for Obama
The Trump voters who arent party followers ARE good targets.
PatrickforO
(14,574 posts)We've already seen our party making some massive inroads into this group.
But the moron in the video? No way she'll ever live in any other world than the one she's chosen. Sort of like creating your own hell.
paleotn
(17,913 posts)I think most of those independents have already peeled away. The core 30% still supporting the moron are propagandized old folks, out and out racists and fundigelical nuts. They can't be reached. They can't.
oldsoftie
(12,536 posts)paleotn
(17,913 posts)Any normal Rethug would be pivoting to the middle on social issues, trying to solidify the suburban vote, while winking and nodding at the crazy base so they know he's just saying this stuff to get reelected. But not this guy. Oh no. It's like he has only one speed....feed his base raw meat.
PatrickforO
(14,574 posts)reeling in mindless horror.
Geez.
Sadly, she will vote, and if we believe in the sanctity of voting, such is her right.
The only thing that can really help here, I think, is massive doses of civics, including a 'how to' fulfill your responsibility as a citizen of the republic, a complete and comprehensive study in American history and a steady diet of truthful news. Even then, the best you can hope for is maybe her grandkids will see the light.
She sure as hell won't.
Beartracks
(12,814 posts)Very cool. Looks like the flowing surface of a gas giant.
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SayItLoud
(1,702 posts)and drive it home. Those of us/you who are not in swing states and states that matter for the Electoral vote may never see the ads, that's ok. They need to be seen by those states and voters who can give us a win with electoral votes; if we get popular vote as well fine, but we NEED the electoral votes.
Beartracks
(12,814 posts)For any Democratic strategists who might be reading this.
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RestoreAmerica2020
(3,435 posts)..democratic voters. I'm optimistic that we will elect a democratic president, that 2018 election was an indicator on just how motivated we are; yet, I'd like to see a blue tsunami win not only at the top ticket but down ballot as well..so as to send a clear message to GOP-- your done! We reject your racist, bigoted, mysogynistic hate policies that hurt the poor and working class as well...rid ourselves of odious traitor, racist, mysogynist, self admitted sexual predator in WH. Yet, he could resign today, will certainly lose in 2020 and we will still be left with the same ole grand party of racists and bigots, fake "christians" we've had for decades..so getting out the democratic vote is critical. Yet, pointless to even attempt to change maga voters..independents who voted for trump in 2016, screw them! We've seen the polls among republican voters..the needle hasn't moved, so forget them; never trumpers disgusted with corrupt criminal say they've registered as "ndependents" meaning they'll stay home and not vote or still vote republican--can't trust them.
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)Stop wasting time on them. If they're still supporting Trump now, what could anyone possibly say to them that will change their minds? It's a ridiculous fool's errand.
Leave them where they are and focus on people who will actually vote Democratic.
GemDigger
(4,305 posts)it seems they are the forgotten ones.
tirebiter
(2,536 posts)Voters who want to vote Democrat AGAIN but do not want M4A or Sanders. They are shopping and find Biden to their tastes. They are much more liberal than purists like to give them. It is the Obama coalition coming back together. Neither MAGA or TYT speaks for them.
randr
(12,412 posts)to vote for Democratic ideals.
SMC22307
(8,090 posts)And if Dems don't appeal to Trump voters in PA, WI, and MI we are fucked.
OnDoutside
(19,956 posts)target are the wedge of republican voters who would have voted for the Democrats last time but wouldn't vote for Hillary. They're the suburban moms who have had enough of Trump. Also the independent voters who voted for Obama and then Trump. That's where the money will be spent.
Vogon_Glory
(9,117 posts)Trying to persuade MAGA Magoos to vote for Democrats is wasting a lot of resources for very little return. I think that the 2018 elections showed that wed get more voters to go for Team Donkey by appealing to the non-brainwashed.
Anyone still supporting Orange Julius after all that has happened since Inauguration Day 2017 is just about unreachable. Maybe God Almighty could reach him or her, but at this point I have my doubts.