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What the hell is the matter with Macron? (Original Post) MoonRiver Dec 2019 OP
No. Macron is supporting a federal EU. roamer65 Dec 2019 #1
He said that weeks ago. At least a week ago. applegrove Dec 2019 #2
I thought he said it because of Trump's actions, NOT in support dewsgirl Dec 2019 #4
I forget why he said it. Could be. But not in responce to Trump this week applegrove Dec 2019 #5
No. I tried to look it up and just ran across something dewsgirl Dec 2019 #6
France has had an iffy relationship with NATO OneBlueDotBama Dec 2019 #3
NATO Allies Spooked by Trump applegrove Dec 2019 #7

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
1. No. Macron is supporting a federal EU.
Sun Dec 1, 2019, 04:29 PM
Dec 2019

Federal, sovereign and free of Trumpist influence.

He is looking to strengthen what will be called the Franco-German alliance.

dewsgirl

(14,961 posts)
6. No. I tried to look it up and just ran across something
Sun Dec 1, 2019, 04:52 PM
Dec 2019

about Macron speaking to Putin on a private line... something about Ukraine and in French.

OneBlueDotBama

(1,384 posts)
3. France has had an iffy relationship with NATO
Sun Dec 1, 2019, 04:41 PM
Dec 2019

After 43 Years, France to Rejoin NATO as Full Member

Thursday, March 12, 2009

PARIS, March 11 -- President Charles de Gaulle infuriated the United States when he suddenly pulled France out of NATO's military command in 1966, arguing he had to preserve French independence in world affairs.

Forty-three years later, President Nicolas Sarkozy announced Wednesday, France has decided to return as a full-fledged member of the 26-nation military pact, the North Atlantic Alliance, which came together under U.S. leadership at the start of the Cold War in 1949 and has served as the basis for U.S.-European security relations since.

Casting aside Gaullist dogma long cherished in France, Sarkozy declared that rejoining the U.S.-led integrated command in Brussels will not diminish the independence of France's nuclear-equipped military and, on the contrary, will open the way for more French influence in deciding what NATO's new missions should be after the Cold War.

"The time has come," he said in a speech to France's Strategic Research Foundation, adding, "Our strategy cannot remain stuck in the past when the conditions of our security have changed radically."

more...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/03/11/AR2009031100547.html

applegrove

(118,642 posts)
7. NATO Allies Spooked by Trump
Sun Dec 1, 2019, 11:35 PM
Dec 2019

NATO Allies Spooked by Trump

December 1, 2019 at 7:05 pm EST By Taegan Goddard 62 Comments

https://politicalwire.com/2019/12/01/nato-allies-spooked-by-trump/

"SNIP.....

Jonathan Swan: “This week’s NATO meeting in London will be “a celebratory leaders’ meeting,” according to a White House talking point ahead of President Trump’s trip. But European officials aren’t betting on it, and Trump has been privately complaining about France’s President Emmanuel Macron.”

“Three senior administration officials told me Trump has been deeply annoyed by Macron, who recently told The Economist that ‘what we are currently experiencing is the brain death of NATO’ and that the United States under Trump’s leadership appears to be ‘turning its back on us.'”

Said one official: “He’s been down on Macron for a long while.”

......SNIP"

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