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shockey80

(4,379 posts)
Tue Dec 3, 2019, 04:04 PM Dec 2019

The Report:The phone records show Ukrainegate starting in April, that's interesting because

Mueller gave his report to Barr on March 22nd. I looked it up out of curiosity. In April, Barr lied and cleared Trump. It all lines up. Trump thought he was free and clear to commit the same crime again. He began to put together the conspiracy.

In July Mueller testified, Trump made the phone call to Ukraine the next day.

I don't know if the news media is reporting this timeline yet.

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The Report:The phone records show Ukrainegate starting in April, that's interesting because (Original Post) shockey80 Dec 2019 OP
Good catch. moondust Dec 2019 #1
Schiff just said it! Lady Freedom Returns Dec 2019 #3
I heard that! moondust Dec 2019 #5
Schiff is very clearly pointing that out mainstreetonce Dec 2019 #2
I'm pretty sure both RM and Chris Hayes have noted this; probably LO'D as well. eppur_se_muova Dec 2019 #4
The phone call happened after Mueller testified, I believe it was July 25th. shockey80 Dec 2019 #6
Right, thanks ! I remember "one day after ..." something. :) nt eppur_se_muova Dec 2019 #7
To sum it all up, this is how it looks to me so far. shockey80 Dec 2019 #8
the Sly Snake thought since he could slither away by having rabid supporters clear him with lies he onetexan Dec 2019 #11
Kick and rec. Mike 03 Dec 2019 #9
K&R! B Stieg Dec 2019 #10
Maybe much earlier still? Ukraine offered a solution to Russia sanctions, Mueller threat, and wiggs Dec 2019 #12
Maybe the Mueller Report was mild to further the investigation and catch more fish? bucolic_frolic Dec 2019 #13
Media should report this timeline every single day. ancianita Dec 2019 #14
Biden declared his Presidential candidacy on April 25, 2019. Midnight Writer Dec 2019 #15

Lady Freedom Returns

(14,120 posts)
3. Schiff just said it!
Tue Dec 3, 2019, 04:21 PM
Dec 2019

He was on TV just (so happy the TV in the library was tuned into ABC and not FOX)a moment ago!

eppur_se_muova

(36,261 posts)
4. I'm pretty sure both RM and Chris Hayes have noted this; probably LO'D as well.
Tue Dec 3, 2019, 04:22 PM
Dec 2019

I believe the phone call was literally *the next day* after Barr's "summary" was issued.

 

shockey80

(4,379 posts)
8. To sum it all up, this is how it looks to me so far.
Tue Dec 3, 2019, 04:42 PM
Dec 2019

In April Barr lies and clears Trump. Trump thinks he is free and clear to commit the same crime again.

April, Trump starts putting together the Ukraine conspiracy.

In July, Mueller testifies. Trumps belief that he is free and clear is emboldened. The next day he calls the President of Ukraine and bribes him.

onetexan

(13,040 posts)
11. the Sly Snake thought since he could slither away by having rabid supporters clear him with lies he
Tue Dec 3, 2019, 06:29 PM
Dec 2019

could get away with anything. Dems need to work to take down Barr - get him disbarred for the blatant corruption and coverups. Moscow Mitch also needs to be taken down.

wiggs

(7,812 posts)
12. Maybe much earlier still? Ukraine offered a solution to Russia sanctions, Mueller threat, and
Tue Dec 3, 2019, 06:32 PM
Dec 2019

Manafort flipping/pardon. May have been hatched much earlier...perhaps as a response to it being known in 2016 that Russia was interfering in election. May have only surfaced at the time Mueller testified, but the roots probably were in place earlier?

Manafort was dropping Ukraine misinformation during the campaign, IIRC.


bucolic_frolic

(43,146 posts)
13. Maybe the Mueller Report was mild to further the investigation and catch more fish?
Tue Dec 3, 2019, 06:38 PM
Dec 2019

We're critical of it falling short, or not indicting some of these perps, but you do want to catch all of them. Letting an investigation run casts a wider net. And boy we have a school of them now.

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