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Proud Liberal Dem

(24,406 posts)
Tue Dec 3, 2019, 06:24 PM Dec 2019

Will Trump try something again?

Since it seems pretty well wrapped up that Trump tried to interfere with and cheat in the 2020 Elections by trying to get Ukraine to create the appearance of a scandal with Joe Biden, how do we know that he won't try to do something else with Biden and/or another potential Democratic rival in order to win in 2020? Yes, the House will likely impeach him and there will be a trial in the Senate, which ultimately "acquits" him, but what will our guarantee be that Election 2020 is fair? Republicans have consistently demonstrated that they will NOT hold Trump accountable for ANYTHING and will, in fact, lie, smear, and cover for him and there is no reason to believe that Trump will be chastened by belonging to a small club of Presidents in our nation's history whom have been impeached for misconduct while in office, so what's going to stop him from trying his hand at a similar Ukraine-style gambit again?

He is *already* engaged in massive obstructionism in this Impeachment Inquiry, which suggests that even MORE skullduggery is awaiting discovery. Who knows if that includes more efforts to (literally) rig Election 2020? Who knows if he is STILL even colluding with Russia, since that investigation got largely shortchanged and then unceremoniously shut down once Barr was installed at DOJ?

If I am thankful for anything this year, it's that, thanks to some brave public servants, we're not finding all of this out AFTER Trump's second inauguration and that the plot was discovered BEFORE the next Election, but if Republicans aren't going to allow Trump to be removed from office and disqualified from holding office again, I worry about the fairness of Election 2020. It is true that we could have a great election and it works out in our favor, but there is always going to be that nagging fear at the back of our heads that Trump may try again to rig the 2020 Election in his favor, somehow.

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Will Trump try something again? (Original Post) Proud Liberal Dem Dec 2019 OP
Will? C_U_L8R Dec 2019 #1
He is doing something with Lebanon I think, Chris Murphy dewsgirl Dec 2019 #2
You mean Lebanon? Proud Liberal Dem Dec 2019 #3
I corrected it, while you wrote your post. dewsgirl Dec 2019 #4
You're absolutely right Proud Liberal Dem Dec 2019 #5
There has to be something, it was concerning enough dewsgirl Dec 2019 #6
Considering how gutted our State Department has become Proud Liberal Dem Dec 2019 #7
Facts.😒 dewsgirl Dec 2019 #9
Trump's Quid Pro Quo (qpq) With The Ukraine Was To Benefit Him Directly In The 2020..... global1 Dec 2019 #10
We need a "huge" turnout Andy823 Dec 2019 #8

dewsgirl

(14,961 posts)
2. He is doing something with Lebanon I think, Chris Murphy
Tue Dec 3, 2019, 06:45 PM
Dec 2019

just got back. They have been withholding aid and over the weekend quietly released it. I think Mulvaney was right, they do this all the time.😳

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,406 posts)
5. You're absolutely right
Tue Dec 3, 2019, 06:51 PM
Dec 2019

I heard that story too, which makes me even more curious/worried. I've been wondering if there is a connection there with anything or anybody?

dewsgirl

(14,961 posts)
6. There has to be something, it was concerning enough
Tue Dec 3, 2019, 06:55 PM
Dec 2019

for a Senator(maybe a group?) to be going over there to investigate. For all we know, all our foreign aid could be based on, quid pro quo's😳

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,406 posts)
7. Considering how gutted our State Department has become
Tue Dec 3, 2019, 07:02 PM
Dec 2019

who knows WTF is really going on with our diplomacy?

global1

(25,241 posts)
10. Trump's Quid Pro Quo (qpq) With The Ukraine Was To Benefit Him Directly In The 2020.....
Tue Dec 3, 2019, 07:22 PM
Dec 2019

race. It had nothing to do with the national security of our country or to remain an ally to our country.

I guess I can justify some sort of qpq to a country the U.S. is giving money to - if it directly reflects on a friendly or beneficial relationship between our countries.

Where Trump crossed the line was he was asking for qpq that was personal and beneficial to him at the detriment to a private citizen that happened to be his opponent in the 2020 race and that is impeachable.

Andy823

(11,495 posts)
8. We need a "huge" turnout
Tue Dec 3, 2019, 07:03 PM
Dec 2019

next year. Millions of people did NOT vote in 2016 for one reason or another. I don't think that will happen this time, plus more people are registering to vote. We need to make sure the turnout is so large that there will be no doubt trump is finished.

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