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I've been told Lindsey Graham has heard the tapes that Gulliani's henchman provided and that is why he has had this "change of heart" and brought up "censure" over impeachment. He has seen the writing on the wall and knows other (R)'s in the Senate will convict.
Take it for what its worth.
dweller
(23,629 posts)drip ...
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Arthur_Frain
(1,849 posts)In this day and age, when everything is surveilled, and everybody leaks, I look askance on this kind of idea. The fact remains that just like the purported videos of Cheeto face with underage Russian hookers/teenage miss universe contestants (take your pick), and whether pissing was involved or not, if those tapes really existed they would have been made public by now.
A payday that big doesnt get missed.
SayItLoud
(1,702 posts)that tRUMP Organization is owned/controlled by someone other than tRUMP. He's but a logo on a shell. Much like his towers; name not owner. Just sayin....IMO
RainCaster
(10,869 posts)He's the perfect tool for Vladimir.
Salviati
(6,008 posts)... so that he's pushing a strategy that will forestall any vote in the senate that will put them on the record.
Scarsdale
(9,426 posts)is not enough for what tRump has done. He will just ignore that, he needs to be completely stripped of all the privileges he has flaunted. He has strutted around spending the taxpayer cash like it is his personal piggy bank. Time to pay the price. He holds hate rallies, then leaves the town to cover the bills, at taxpayer expense. Old habits die hard. He is a deadbeat, as many small contractors came to understand over many years.
JustAnotherGen
(31,817 posts)That's why I'm lower case 'o'kay if the Senate does not vote to impeach.
I want every single one of them on the record.
LexVegas
(6,060 posts)Sneederbunk
(14,290 posts)SCantiGOP
(13,869 posts)is not adequate to start a thread on DU, much less accept as something to be disseminated.
CaptYossarian
(6,448 posts)Even if all those voices are inside just one head.
duforsure
(11,885 posts)Just the tip of the ice berg the crimes trump has done, and is involved in, and the republican's are digging themselves a hole they not be able to get out of very soon from it. Then be exposed for their involvement in conspiring to commit crimes with and for trump. I think they've already lost , and now risk their party's future from protecting and their criminal involvement . Or we have no system of justice at all. Their excuses and flimsy claims, and accusations aren't working any longer now. The republicans in Congress will have to remove him knowing a lot more will expose them as well.
bucolic_frolic
(43,146 posts)Proud Liberal Dem
(24,412 posts)I think that his advocacy of censure is more of a desire to avoid having even more damaging details- possibly to himself and/or other GOPers- spill out during an Impeachment Trial. Sort of like he wants a "settlement" that ends everything. He's scared IMHO.
SCantiGOP
(13,869 posts)But Nixon has a safe margin in the Senate until his tapes came out.
We need some patriot to leak a tape to prove Trumps criminal behavior. He, like Caeser, has a lot of enemies who despise him around him every day.
crickets
(25,966 posts)Proud Liberal Dem
(24,412 posts)then I take it as a good sign for us.
Golden Raisin
(4,608 posts)from day to day like a weather-vane in a hurricane. Black today. White tomorrow. Back to black the next day.
aggiesal
(8,914 posts)as often as he changes his underwear, but then thought, maybe he doesn't
change his underwear all that often.
Black today, same Black tomorrow. White the day after tomorrow.
MontanaMama
(23,313 posts)or that Lindsey will not change his mind yet again with any change in the political wind.
BlueIdaho
(13,582 posts)I would not be surprised if he has heard something explosive that will later come to light.
BadGimp
(4,015 posts)okieinpain
(9,397 posts)grantcart
(53,061 posts)Censure not impeach.
Obviously Trump woudnt agree
Catherine Vincent
(34,489 posts)NCjack
(10,279 posts)why that happened, but expect a reversal as soon as Liar-#45 returns.
CaptYossarian
(6,448 posts)"Chrisley" Graham may be unemployed (imprisoned?) soon.
FrankBooth
(1,603 posts)About as likely as Dotard apologizing for something.
But it does show the Republican Senators would be very, very open to ANYTHING that allows them to skip the acquittal vote. Which is why impeachment must (& will) happen.
dewsgirl
(14,961 posts)was about?
Iliyah
(25,111 posts)I truly do, but alas, we are dealing with Republicans.
Botany
(70,501 posts)... dump Trump. Except for some of those who are on Vlad's payroll and or know about just
how dirty the elections and voting machines are now and have been in the past.
Mme. Defarge
(8,028 posts)Cheviteau
(383 posts)That was the first thing I thought when Graham mentioned 'censure' the other day. He's looking for a way out of impeachment. Floating censure is not going to work. Republicans are going to be forced to show what they're made of. I cautiously and hopefully predict conviction.
PatrickforO
(14,571 posts)Trump would find himself sitting on his ass out in the parking lot with a pink slip.
If they have the vote publicly, hard to say. I'd love to see enough Republicans in the Senate vote to remove, and failing that, I believe a simple majority can forbid Trump from holding elected office after he leaves the presidency in January 2021.
Mr.Bill
(24,284 posts)if the ballot was secret, those who voted not to convict could claim the opposite if that was politically expedient in the future.
Conviction or not, I want to know how they voted and I want them to live with it for the rest of their lives and for it to be in the first paragraph in their obituary.
PatrickforO
(14,571 posts)A secret ballot WOULD allow them to be gutless.