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Protesters fill London streets. Live stream. (Original Post) dewsgirl Dec 2019 OP
Do they have paperless voting machines like we do? rainy Dec 2019 #1
I heard that exit polls showed that Boris and the Tories would win Sanity Claws Dec 2019 #4
I tried to look it up and didn't really get a clear answer. Hopefully dewsgirl Dec 2019 #5
Some of our DUers 2naSalit Dec 2019 #6
I heard that the Labour party's candidate wasn't that good so most people picked the other guy dustyscamp Dec 2019 #17
They certainly should have consdiered 2naSalit Dec 2019 #19
think win was pretty substantial stopdiggin Dec 2019 #9
Last night moondust Dec 2019 #10
Yes, that is the system for the whole country (nt) muriel_volestrangler Dec 2019 #13
Thanks, m_v moondust Dec 2019 #18
Will this accomplish anything? Delphinus Dec 2019 #2
No, it won't, and it sort of illustrates the problem BannonsLiver Dec 2019 #12
That sounds so very Delphinus Dec 2019 #14
We made some inroads in the mid terms BannonsLiver Dec 2019 #16
It seems that Russia has won again Sanity Claws Dec 2019 #3
A little too little, too late methinks superpatriotman Dec 2019 #7
my thought as well. not doing much good now! stopdiggin Dec 2019 #8
Exactly. Vote or tolerate the results. Hoyt Dec 2019 #27
As in the States, the Urban/Rural divide is strong maxsolomon Dec 2019 #11
Not in Scotland. SNP performance was very uniform across the country. roamer65 Dec 2019 #15
Scotland is going to want a second referendum, and this time, independence is going to win. n/t Humanist_Activist Dec 2019 #20
A promise was broken to Scotland. roamer65 Dec 2019 #21
Also Ireland and Northern Ireland are going to return to the Troubles if a hard border... Humanist_Activist Dec 2019 #24
I believe there is a clause in the Good Friday Agreement where NI can choose UK or R of I. roamer65 Dec 2019 #26
This is true from what I've read, regarding the choice that Northern Ireland has. a la izquierda Dec 2019 #28
I fully support Scottish independence. roamer65 Dec 2019 #32
They never should have voted to stay last time Polybius Dec 2019 #30
I wonder how many of them bothered to vote? nt Blue_true Dec 2019 #22
not much to protest. got completely trounced in the election Takket Dec 2019 #23
Makes me wonder ripcord Dec 2019 #25
What good will this do? Polybius Dec 2019 #29
Eventually, all things fall apart. Binkie The Clown Dec 2019 #31

Sanity Claws

(21,848 posts)
4. I heard that exit polls showed that Boris and the Tories would win
Fri Dec 13, 2019, 03:31 PM
Dec 2019

If exit polls showed that, then there really can't be a question about the vote. At leas that is how I understand things.

dewsgirl

(14,961 posts)
5. I tried to look it up and didn't really get a clear answer. Hopefully
Fri Dec 13, 2019, 03:32 PM
Dec 2019

someone else comes along that can better answer this.

2naSalit

(86,607 posts)
6. Some of our DUers
Fri Dec 13, 2019, 03:36 PM
Dec 2019

from there and some who live there said that they vote on paper and that the system is pretty secure including the exit polls.

dustyscamp

(2,224 posts)
17. I heard that the Labour party's candidate wasn't that good so most people picked the other guy
Fri Dec 13, 2019, 08:29 PM
Dec 2019

Hopefully the person we pick to go against Trump is someone everyone can get behind.

2naSalit

(86,607 posts)
19. They certainly should have consdiered
Fri Dec 13, 2019, 10:00 PM
Dec 2019

someone else and Corbyn should have stepped aside.

I think it will go differently here.

stopdiggin

(11,306 posts)
9. think win was pretty substantial
Fri Dec 13, 2019, 05:52 PM
Dec 2019

and Conservative win largely predicted. Also .. has to be one of the more advertised and "informed" votes in UK history.

moondust

(19,981 posts)
10. Last night
Fri Dec 13, 2019, 05:55 PM
Dec 2019

some British TV channels showed some large rooms the size of gymnasiums with long tables where large numbers of people sat counting ballots by hand. I don't know if that's how it's done everywhere.

Delphinus

(11,830 posts)
2. Will this accomplish anything?
Fri Dec 13, 2019, 03:29 PM
Dec 2019

Is there indication of vote-rigging? I believe there was in the first Brexit vote ...

BannonsLiver

(16,387 posts)
12. No, it won't, and it sort of illustrates the problem
Fri Dec 13, 2019, 07:05 PM
Dec 2019

Labour didn’t lose this election because they couldn’t get the vote out in the cities. They lost because they got crushed everywhere else.

Delphinus

(11,830 posts)
14. That sounds so very
Fri Dec 13, 2019, 07:47 PM
Dec 2019

much like what happens in NE Indiana. We have had a Democratic mayor for many a year (thankfully) but for the past twelve years, our 3rd District representative has been a Republican because Democrats cannot win in the outlying areas.

BannonsLiver

(16,387 posts)
16. We made some inroads in the mid terms
Fri Dec 13, 2019, 08:05 PM
Dec 2019

In rural areas but those candidates had to to win in a lot of cases. In a big general election campaign it may not be as big of a priority. Whoever the nominee is there has to be some significant rural outreach. Don’t need to win in the rural areas, we just need to shave off 3-5 points where the GOP runs up +30 margins. If that happens Trump wins in places like Wisconsin won’t happen again, and it could open the door into other states that are on the cusp of going blue.

Sanity Claws

(21,848 posts)
3. It seems that Russia has won again
Fri Dec 13, 2019, 03:30 PM
Dec 2019

Whatever the outcome of the vote, it appears that the division between groups has become starker and more irreconcilable. Tories may have won the vote but Russia won the bigger picture.

maxsolomon

(33,345 posts)
11. As in the States, the Urban/Rural divide is strong
Fri Dec 13, 2019, 06:35 PM
Dec 2019

and the Rural's political power is privileged over the Urban.

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
21. A promise was broken to Scotland.
Fri Dec 13, 2019, 10:18 PM
Dec 2019

They were told there would be no Brexit in the first referendum and if there was they could have a second referendum.

Independence will win in Scotland.

 

Humanist_Activist

(7,670 posts)
24. Also Ireland and Northern Ireland are going to return to the Troubles if a hard border...
Fri Dec 13, 2019, 10:39 PM
Dec 2019

is erected.

Either N.I. gets a special dispensation, or it also gets independence in the future(further out than Scotland), and possible integration into the R.O.I.

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
26. I believe there is a clause in the Good Friday Agreement where NI can choose UK or R of I.
Fri Dec 13, 2019, 10:56 PM
Dec 2019

Taoiseach Varadkar is being very level headed in this matter. He said today he wants to see NI work in getting power sharing in working order. The EU and UK will solve the border issue, he says. I believe him.

a la izquierda

(11,794 posts)
28. This is true from what I've read, regarding the choice that Northern Ireland has.
Sat Dec 14, 2019, 12:12 AM
Dec 2019

They can't choose an independence referendum like Scotland, but they can certainly tell Westminster to go fuck itself.
Interesting times here in the UK.

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
32. I fully support Scottish independence.
Sat Dec 14, 2019, 06:28 PM
Dec 2019

England has broken its promise to Scotland on remaining in the EU.

I will be giving money to the SNP. The Scot in me says help my motherland.

Only hope for Westminster with Scotland now is complete devolution. Giving Scotland complete powers on taxation, budgeting and international treaties may keep it in the U.K.

FM Sturgeon will take a rejection on a Section 30 order to the courts and win.

Takket

(21,565 posts)
23. not much to protest. got completely trounced in the election
Fri Dec 13, 2019, 10:33 PM
Dec 2019

next time come back with a potential PM at the the helm that isn't hated by voters.

ripcord

(5,387 posts)
25. Makes me wonder
Fri Dec 13, 2019, 10:45 PM
Dec 2019

How many of those who are protesting actually voted, the vote was pretty one sided. Of course all the accusations of antisemitism couldn't have helped, Corbyn should have stepped aside knowing there was no way he could win.

Polybius

(15,411 posts)
29. What good will this do?
Sat Dec 14, 2019, 12:20 AM
Dec 2019

The people spoke, and they lost big-time. If Labour wanted to win, they should have nominated a moderate like Tony Blair. You don't win with extremes.

Binkie The Clown

(7,911 posts)
31. Eventually, all things fall apart.
Sat Dec 14, 2019, 03:03 AM
Dec 2019

All empires fall.
All governments fail.
All civilizations collapse
All species go extinct.
All suns die and take their planets with them.
The heat death of the universe is inevitable.
Nothing is forever.
The only thing you can do about that is to accept that impermanence is the very nature of existence.

Will the last one out the door please turn off the lights.

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