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At what point should the Democrats openly solicit the aid of foreign governments? (Original Post) Girard442 Dec 2019 OP
Well. we're not going to do that htuttle Dec 2019 #1
China! at140 Dec 2019 #2
Its not about Putin or Trump. Its about rule of law and preserving our system. marble falls Dec 2019 #6
If they bring guns we can't bring butter knives at140 Dec 2019 #15
I know what you mean, the shoot out and gang fight over Nixon's impeachment was a bloodbath. marble falls Dec 2019 #16
That was different era...almost half century ago at140 Dec 2019 #17
Speaking as someone who's been here for almost 3/4's of a century. Things are ... marble falls Dec 2019 #19
On that we can agree 100% at140 Dec 2019 #21
I hear you .... LenaBaby61 Dec 2019 #31
I hear you .... LenaBaby61 Dec 2019 #32
If Trump is acquitted in the Senate, the Rule of Law will be the Word of Barr. Girard442 Dec 2019 #29
No it won't. We have Congress and that "trumps" Barr. marble falls Dec 2019 #33
How about never? Tommy_Carcetti Dec 2019 #3
Are you recommend treason to beat traitors? You'd want Democrats compromised, too .... marble falls Dec 2019 #4
Thank you for saying this. dware Dec 2019 #7
Every once in a while one of us gets a bit off the path, we're all here to nudge him back, glad ... marble falls Dec 2019 #12
Ha. No. jberryhill Dec 2019 #5
Never Proud Liberal Dem Dec 2019 #8
day after... myohmy2 Dec 2019 #9
And thats the best case scenario, marble falls Dec 2019 #11
That's a bad idea on both a moral and a tactical level. el_bryanto Dec 2019 #10
Right after engaging in sarisataka Dec 2019 #13
At no point. MineralMan Dec 2019 #14
Never StarfishSaver Dec 2019 #18
Are you seriously criticizing Democrats mcar Dec 2019 #20
If you want to act like a lawless Repub, perhaps you should become one... Wounded Bear Dec 2019 #22
Now and then a post makes me think I should leave DU. nolabear Dec 2019 #23
Never backtoblue Dec 2019 #24
If another country's intelligence service wants to burn MFer-#45 and Co., it can NCjack Dec 2019 #25
Jesus H. Christ on a soda cracker! Tell me this is just a sick joke! nt Atticus Dec 2019 #26
NEVER. This is our country. Firestorm49 Dec 2019 #27
no handmade34 Dec 2019 #28
Never! Baked Potato Dec 2019 #30

at140

(6,110 posts)
2. China!
Mon Dec 16, 2019, 10:26 AM
Dec 2019

China economy is 10 times bigger than Russia. And China hates the squeeze placed on them by Trumpy.
If we get China on our side by promising eliminating all tariffs, Putin is screwed (along with Trump).

at140

(6,110 posts)
15. If they bring guns we can't bring butter knives
Mon Dec 16, 2019, 11:30 AM
Dec 2019

to the fight. Fight fire with fire. Otherwise lose every fight.

marble falls

(57,080 posts)
19. Speaking as someone who's been here for almost 3/4's of a century. Things are ...
Mon Dec 16, 2019, 11:41 AM
Dec 2019

demonstrably better now than then. The process is working.

at140

(6,110 posts)
21. On that we can agree 100%
Mon Dec 16, 2019, 11:50 AM
Dec 2019

and I have been on this planet longer than 3/4 of a century, and a full century is looking entirely possible.
Nearing 80 candles, I need zero medications, no pains or aches anywhere in my body, and can break my age at the golf course where par is 70 for 18 holes. Playing 4 rounds every week has changed my body from border line diabetic, high blood pressure, hip joint pain, chest pains after heavy meals, to none of the above! Medicare thanks me since I have zero medical bills now.

LenaBaby61

(6,974 posts)
31. I hear you ....
Mon Dec 16, 2019, 01:42 PM
Dec 2019

And while I'm certainly not advocating that Dems don't do the same un-American things tRumputinthuglicans are doing in trying to install a foreign government But make NO mistake about it, these courts are being packed with YOUNG, crazy, racist, right-winged, un-American lunatics whose hideous imprint WILL be felt because their 'insane' rulings will have a chilling and lasting effect on how we USED to know life here in this country. No doubt about it.

Being part Native-American, and having had my grandfather have his land STOLEN from him by the male, white US Government a little over 100 years ago, It does make me wonder just what we'd do if tRumputin gets away with STEALING another term so he and his tRumputinthuglicans can finish converting this country into ru$$ia, because he was successful at stealing another General Election. Hell, we STILL have Native Americans who can't vote in a country where their sovereign rights were stolen away from them 🤔

We live in some dark, nasty and extremely SCARY times.

LenaBaby61

(6,974 posts)
32. I hear you ....
Mon Dec 16, 2019, 01:43 PM
Dec 2019

And while I'm certainly not advocating that Dems don't do the same un-American things tRumputinthuglicans are doing in trying to install a foreign government But make NO mistake about it, these courts are being packed with YOUNG, crazy, racist, right-winged, un-American lunatics whose hideous imprint WILL be felt because their 'insane' rulings will have a chilling and lasting effect on how we USED to know life here in this country. No doubt about it.

Being part Native-American, and having had my grandfather have his land STOLEN from him by the male, white US Government a little over 100 years ago, It does make me wonder just what we'd do if tRumputin gets away with STEALING another term so he and his tRumputinthuglicans can finish converting this country into ru$$ia, because he was successful at stealing another General Election. Hell, we STILL have Native Americans who can't vote in a country where their sovereign rights were stolen away from them 🤔

We live in some dark, nasty and extremely SCARY times.

marble falls

(57,080 posts)
4. Are you recommend treason to beat traitors? You'd want Democrats compromised, too ....
Mon Dec 16, 2019, 10:30 AM
Dec 2019

The ends really do justify the means?

That's one really bad idea you're floating.

Or is it like the little boy caught masturbating and when told it will make him blind, asks if he could continue till he needs glasses?


We're using the process and its working. Even Fox's polls show a majority want him impeached.

dware

(12,369 posts)
7. Thank you for saying this.
Mon Dec 16, 2019, 10:35 AM
Dec 2019

It boggles the mind that a Democrat would post this nonsense on a Liberal board and thinking it would be taken seriously.

marble falls

(57,080 posts)
12. Every once in a while one of us gets a bit off the path, we're all here to nudge him back, glad ...
Mon Dec 16, 2019, 10:48 AM
Dec 2019

you're here to help.

myohmy2

(3,162 posts)
9. day after...
Mon Dec 16, 2019, 10:41 AM
Dec 2019

...trump is acquitted...

...it'll be the new way to influence and fund campaigns and elections...

...if the pukes change the rules, we must adhere to those new rules...

...discreetly, of course...

el_bryanto

(11,804 posts)
10. That's a bad idea on both a moral and a tactical level.
Mon Dec 16, 2019, 10:45 AM
Dec 2019

Or to be more clear - I oppose that because it's wrong, but also because it's stupid.

Bryant

sarisataka

(18,633 posts)
13. Right after engaging in
Mon Dec 16, 2019, 11:18 AM
Dec 2019

Vote fraud and intimidation of voters.

We don't want principles, standards or ethics putting us at a disadvantage.

mcar

(42,307 posts)
20. Are you seriously criticizing Democrats
Mon Dec 16, 2019, 11:47 AM
Dec 2019

for not violating the Constitution? Or is this just an excuse to criticize Democrats?

nolabear

(41,960 posts)
23. Now and then a post makes me think I should leave DU.
Mon Dec 16, 2019, 12:23 PM
Dec 2019

Fortunately most of the replies are still American.

NCjack

(10,279 posts)
25. If another country's intelligence service wants to burn MFer-#45 and Co., it can
Mon Dec 16, 2019, 12:45 PM
Dec 2019

do it in the usual and customary manner: send evidence to reporters at our major newspapers. Let's keep the DEM party out of that.

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