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babylonsister

(171,065 posts)
Mon Dec 16, 2019, 05:10 PM Dec 2019

Democrats tell court they need Mueller grand jury documents for impeachment trial


Democrats tell court they need Mueller grand jury documents for impeachment trial
By John Kruzel - 12/16/19 02:24 PM EST


Lawyers for the Democratic-led House Judiciary Committee told a federal appeals court on Monday that secret grand jury materials from former special counsel Robert Mueller’s probe are needed for President Trump’s impeachment inquiry and likely Senate trial.

House Democrats, who have repeatedly pushed the Justice Department for the urgent release of the redacted materials, made the case for the documents’ continued relevance, even as the impeachment scope has narrowed. The Justice Department is arguing that the House should not have access to the documents.

"The Department of Justice (DOJ) takes extraordinary positions in this case,” the House Judiciary Committee told the D.C. Circuit Court in a court filing on Monday. “It does so to avoid disclosing grand-jury material needed for the House’s impeachment of President Trump and the Senate’s trial to remove him from office.”


Counsel for the Judiciary Committee have long held out the possibility that Trump’s alleged obstruction of Mueller’s nearly two-year probe into Russian interference in the 2016 election and possible collusion with the Trump campaign could prove critical to the impeachment inquiry.

The Monday court filing shows Democrats doubling down on that argument even as the impeachment process moves quickly and after the House committees involved unveiled two impeachment articles that focused narrowly on Trump’s alleged abuse of power over his dealings with Ukraine and the administration’s obstruction of Congress.

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Democrats tell court they need Mueller grand jury documents for impeachment trial (Original Post) babylonsister Dec 2019 OP
So what if they get; they'll add crimes to Impeachment? Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2019 #1
the documents support both Articles of Impeachment Hermit-The-Prog Dec 2019 #2
Yes, Dems have stated that they may add articles, depending on the evidence. William Seger Dec 2019 #3
Why weren't they already included??? triron Dec 2019 #4
Great question. I had read long ago you could impeach Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2019 #6
Glad to see you post. triron Dec 2019 #5
A good reason to delay the vote pecosbob Dec 2019 #7

William Seger

(10,778 posts)
3. Yes, Dems have stated that they may add articles, depending on the evidence.
Mon Dec 16, 2019, 07:40 PM
Dec 2019

I personally think they should include the obstruction of justice charges from the Mueller report: It helps to establish a pattern that will surely be repeated if Trump gets away with this.

triron

(22,003 posts)
4. Why weren't they already included???
Mon Dec 16, 2019, 08:00 PM
Dec 2019

And I believe even more damning information will come out. Much more.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
6. Great question. I had read long ago you could impeach
Tue Dec 17, 2019, 01:47 AM
Dec 2019

with that (Mueller findings), and submit the report itself as evidence - no physical witnesses needed.

Of course Republicans will come up with an argument no matter what you do ...so why not pile on everything and anything? Makes zero sense to me. If you are going in the hopes that KISS will help...working reverse...like "is that all ya got?"

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