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RandySF

(58,799 posts) Wed Dec 18, 2019, 09:55 PM Dec 2019

California Democrats cast 1 out of 5 votes to impeach Trump.

About one of every five votes for the impeachment of President Donald Trump Wednesday came from a California House member.

The House voted 230 to 197 to charge Trump with abuse of power, and 229 to 198 to charge him with obstruction of Congress, stemming from Trump’s withholding of security aid to Ukraine as a condition of the European nation announcing investigations into former Vice President and Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden and his son Hunter. Rep. Tulsi Gabbard, a Democrat running for president, voted present both times.

In each case, 45 of the yes votes came from California Democrats.

California’s big influence was not just because of its size, but its strong Democratic party. California has 45 Democratic House members and seven Republicans, and they all voted along party lines.

https://www.fresnobee.com/news/california/article238475988.html#storylink=cpy

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California Democrats cast 1 out of 5 votes to impeach Trump. (Original Post) RandySF Dec 2019 OP

AND we have a non-gerrymandered, independent commission-drawn district map. RockRaven Dec 2019 #1

if you were willing / able to be as dirty as Repukes, there would be 0 Rs from CA Hermit-The-Prog Dec 2019 #4

LOL, true, I was just thinking about district-drawing. If you include voter disenfranchisement too RockRaven Dec 2019 #5

That's an interesting perspective. TwilightZone Dec 2019 #2

Take that, MF45 Hekate Dec 2019 #3

45 Crazy Californians 86 45 Hermit-The-Prog Dec 2019 #6

And we could have an even stronger Democratic Party by PufPuf23 Dec 2019 #7

RockRaven

(14,966 posts)

1. AND we have a non-gerrymandered, independent commission-drawn district map.

Reply to RandySF (Original post)

Wed Dec 18, 2019, 10:09 PM

Dec 2019

We could probably eke out another couple of seats, or shore up that size of a semi-permanent Dem caucus (remember 2018 was a very very blue wave here) if we were willing/able to be as dirty as Repukes have been in states like NC, PA, WI, VA, etc.

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,342 posts)

4. if you were willing / able to be as dirty as Repukes, there would be 0 Rs from CA

Reply to RockRaven (Reply #1)

Wed Dec 18, 2019, 10:15 PM

Dec 2019

RockRaven

(14,966 posts)

5. LOL, true, I was just thinking about district-drawing. If you include voter disenfranchisement too

Reply to Hermit-The-Prog (Reply #4)

Wed Dec 18, 2019, 10:29 PM

Dec 2019

then with the combination of the two it could be zero or somewhat close.

TwilightZone

(25,471 posts)

2. That's an interesting perspective.

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Wed Dec 18, 2019, 10:11 PM

Dec 2019

Hekate

(90,674 posts)

3. Take that, MF45

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Wed Dec 18, 2019, 10:14 PM

Dec 2019

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,342 posts)

6. 45 Crazy Californians 86 45

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Wed Dec 18, 2019, 10:33 PM

Dec 2019

PufPuf23

(8,774 posts)

7. And we could have an even stronger Democratic Party by

Reply to RandySF (Original post)

Wed Dec 18, 2019, 10:45 PM

Dec 2019

storming the rural, inland, and other areas still red in the State of California.

Let the conversion of red to blue in California be a model for the Democratic Party in the USA.

FDR had strong rural support. Depression era programs (like WPA, CCC, TVA, etc.) were Federal programs that were liked and considered fondly by many old timers now dwindled to near extinction.

Edit to add:

Thank you for your votes today Jared Huffman.

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