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mopinko

(70,099 posts)
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 08:09 PM Dec 2019

an update on my family member who quit his job at the pentagon.

Last edited Thu Dec 19, 2019, 09:14 PM - Edit history (1)

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212626497

so, this guy is notoriously tight lipped, but had a visit w my brother last weekend. my bro is one person he talks too, and he was busting to talk. i didnt get the whole convo, but what i got was this-

his job was in jsoc policy.
he says he was pushed out in a struggle over personnel being foisted on them by the wh. specifically, a guy named john rood, who is a policy liaison, but is making personnel picks.
they tangled over a particular pick that is still there, dont know who.

rood was stupid enough to question the "loyalty" of a certified war hero.
ans- you dont get to question my loyalty. fuck you. i quit.

he is a lifelong repub, but he has decided that cheato is a bad president, a bad man, and a clear and present danger.


he is not alone.
stout hearts, friends.

ets- shit, i forgot the juiciest part- he says rood is involved in ukraine.
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an update on my family member who quit his job at the pentagon. (Original Post) mopinko Dec 2019 OP
Honorable people know he's bad news. blm Dec 2019 #1
And tRump knows honorable people are bad news for him, so he is forcing as many out as he can. . .nt Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2019 #24
He can't do it alone. Scarsdale Dec 2019 #41
K&R smirkymonkey Dec 2019 #2
Kick for visibility! Mike 03 Dec 2019 #3
I think you responded to me in my thread about the Pentagon dewsgirl Dec 2019 #4
yup. i'm sure he objected to the very word. mopinko Dec 2019 #5
jsoc Joint Chiefs Of Staff as I figured out. trof Dec 2019 #6
No, JSOC- sarisataka Dec 2019 #18
Yes. Big difference. BIGGER job, perhaps. Grins Dec 2019 #53
This sounds like the old political commissar from the days of USSR, Putin's longings erronis Dec 2019 #7
i am sure he was completely aware of what is happening in other depts. mopinko Dec 2019 #8
Really good point. Collimator Dec 2019 #19
OMG! Heads of All Military Branches including Southcom Northcom & Nuclear Force Replaced since July OhNo-Really Dec 2019 #9
that first link had this on my mind. then my brother called. mopinko Dec 2019 #11
Oh cheeze, I thought your brother screwed the pooch, but you mean IMF45!! Leghorn21 Dec 2019 #29
I wish I had that faith angrychair Dec 2019 #58
i would put him near that camp, tho not in it. mopinko Dec 2019 #59
The 1st thing a new President has to do mercuryblues Dec 2019 #10
no leave behinds this time. mopinko Dec 2019 #12
not a one. They must be purged on day 1 mercuryblues Dec 2019 #13
This / FakeNoose Dec 2019 #21
Would that it could apply to the judges! lastlib Dec 2019 #43
Rood is former Senior VP at Lockheed Martin CanonRay Dec 2019 #14
a quick google of recent military contracts with Lockheed Martin shows numerous diva77 Dec 2019 #30
Thanks. His name is damn familiar somehow. yonder Dec 2019 #48
First thing on 46 agenda CanonRay Dec 2019 #15
THIS ⬆⬆ Duppers Dec 2019 #37
We can only hope the founders of this country are standing with us in spirit kimbutgar Dec 2019 #16
The Trump admin is nothing more than a soap opera...individuals seeking their own petty, Karadeniz Dec 2019 #17
About John Rood: Sloumeau Dec 2019 #20
if they the slightest inclination to put good people in place, they would have never let him go. mopinko Dec 2019 #26
The article pretty much exposes Rood as a fool RVN VET71 Dec 2019 #42
How can anyone not see they have put into place the most corrupt government in US history????? somaticexperiencing Dec 2019 #22
Hell's bells. Thanks for sharing. Hekate Dec 2019 #23
Rood- James48 Dec 2019 #25
VP Of Domestic Business Development? ProfessorGAC Dec 2019 #45
So damn much corruption eating away at our country. democratisphere Dec 2019 #27
K & R BadgerMom Dec 2019 #28
Wow. Thank you for sharing, and updating. FM123 Dec 2019 #31
This is how a purge happens unblock Dec 2019 #32
if they can find one. they are having a hard time. mopinko Dec 2019 #33
Yeah they seem content to just dismantle the government... unblock Dec 2019 #34
rood iamthebandfanman Dec 2019 #35
i'm pretty sure there are some in policy that didnt want those javelins going there. mopinko Dec 2019 #36
He called it... wow. Ellipsis Dec 2019 #38
wow. bdamomma Dec 2019 #47
K&R... spanone Dec 2019 #39
Kick burrowowl Dec 2019 #40
Sounds as though we need further investigation by the IG and the Intel committee, eh? Ford_Prefect Dec 2019 #44
yup. i mean, we know the pentagon had to be on board, and they prolly didnt like it. mopinko Dec 2019 #49
thanks for sharing bdamomma Dec 2019 #46
Oh, does that bring back memories! Grins Dec 2019 #50
interesting bit of history. thanks. mopinko Dec 2019 #54
totalitarian apparatchiks abound... Thomas Hurt Dec 2019 #51
still the dictators playbook. just the 21st century edition. mopinko Dec 2019 #55
Kick. MontanaMama Dec 2019 #52
republicants are a clear and present danger scarytomcat Dec 2019 #56
all of mankind. i grieve for what we have done to the world. mopinko Dec 2019 #60
This presidency is a friggin' mess. B Stieg Dec 2019 #57
"Human Scum" Roy Rolling Dec 2019 #61
yup. he has figured that out. mopinko Dec 2019 #63
Kick Dennis Donovan Dec 2019 #62

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,001 posts)
24. And tRump knows honorable people are bad news for him, so he is forcing as many out as he can. . .nt
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 09:53 PM
Dec 2019

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
41. He can't do it alone.
Fri Dec 20, 2019, 08:00 AM
Dec 2019

tRump has plenty of (unqualified) help behind the scenes. He does not have enough intelligence to watch all these positions, so there are many, many helpers involved. Putin has to be thrilled at how his plan to install an IDIOT in the WH is destroying every facet of this country.

dewsgirl

(14,961 posts)
4. I think you responded to me in my thread about the Pentagon
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 08:54 PM
Dec 2019

this morning, thank you for elaborating. The fact that loyalty is factor, gave me the chills.😳

mopinko

(70,099 posts)
5. yup. i'm sure he objected to the very word.
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 09:08 PM
Dec 2019

anyone who questioned his patriotism would still be healing up.

Grins

(7,217 posts)
53. Yes. Big difference. BIGGER job, perhaps.
Fri Dec 20, 2019, 11:47 AM
Dec 2019

Now my question: Why is there anyone political in this Command?

Because the JSOC would not trust the orange, draft-dodging traitor over the killing of Al-Baghdadi...?

erronis

(15,241 posts)
7. This sounds like the old political commissar from the days of USSR, Putin's longings
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 09:10 PM
Dec 2019
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_commissar

Every department and agency will soon have a political appointee in place to oversee all activities.

And we all know how well that worked during the Soviet period. That's why the USSR failed.

And if trumputin foists this on us, we will also fail.

mopinko

(70,099 posts)
8. i am sure he was completely aware of what is happening in other depts.
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 09:13 PM
Dec 2019

i'm pretty sure he sees what is happening in state, and in intelligence, where he has deep contacts.

Collimator

(1,639 posts)
19. Really good point.
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 09:29 PM
Dec 2019

The litmus test for people serving in our government and military should be loyalty to the Constitution and its established values and a genuine concern for the welfare of the American people. After that, the second most important quality should be--duh--competency.

Trump values loyalty to himself above all else. Thus he thinks that those "smart" enough to be loyal to him are the "best people" and can handle critical, challenging jobs. A lack of training, experience and capability is not significant to him, as long as they can pucker up and kiss his ass, the position is theirs.

OhNo-Really

(3,985 posts)
9. OMG! Heads of All Military Branches including Southcom Northcom & Nuclear Force Replaced since July
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 09:13 PM
Dec 2019
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212800748

In response to “5 Pentagon officials have resigned in the last week”. All military brass has been replaced since July 2019!
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212799775#post25

Many Commanders have a four (4) year term so perhaps this is just a huge coincidence.

With great sadness, we have to acknowledge a window of doubt about loyalties created by reports of Trump’s demands for loyalty.

You can read about each new Head and their start dates at the links beneath each stated branch.
Army
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Army

Navy
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Secretary_of_the_Navy

Air Force
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Secretary_of_the_Air_Force

Marines
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commandant_of_the_Marine_Corps

Northcom
https://www.armytimes.com/news/your-army/2019/07/11/groundbreaking-female-general-in-command-of-us-army-north/

Southcom
https://www.southcom.mil/MEDIA/NEWS-ARTICLES/Article/1905866/us-army-south-welcomes-new-commander/

Commander in Charge of Nuclear Forces
https://americanmilitarynews.com/2019/11/heres-the-new-commander-in-charge-of-us-nuclear-forces/

We can hope these new leaders have to report activities to The House of Representatives and/or Senators.

Big changes are underway in the branches

The Marines' new commandant has set the bar for real military reform
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-marines-have-set-the-bar-for-reform-can-the-rest-of-the-military-follow/2019/08/08/21b47d5e-ba1c-11e9-b3b4-2bb69e8c4e39_story.html

Remarks by Acting Secretary of the Army Hon. Ryan D. McCarthy at U.S. Army Change of Responsibility
https://www.army.mil/article/225609/remarks_by_acting_secretary_of_the_army_hon_ryan_d_mccarthy_at_us_army_change_of_responsibility

We might want to keep up with Military news. Each branch has a website.

mopinko

(70,099 posts)
11. that first link had this on my mind. then my brother called.
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 09:15 PM
Dec 2019

he has screwed the pooch the max. if he thinks the military is gonna rescue him, he has another think coming.

Leghorn21

(13,524 posts)
29. Oh cheeze, I thought your brother screwed the pooch, but you mean IMF45!!
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 10:11 PM
Dec 2019

Whew

GREAT NEWS - THANK YOU
I SHALL KEEP MY HEART STOUT, hell yeah!!!

angrychair

(8,698 posts)
58. I wish I had that faith
Fri Dec 20, 2019, 04:14 PM
Dec 2019

Military is full of white nationalists and far right religious extremists...this is the framework of a revolt.
Most soldiers, given the order, would kill American citizens without hesitation.
Reference: all of human history

"We were only following orders"

mopinko

(70,099 posts)
59. i would put him near that camp, tho not in it.
Fri Dec 20, 2019, 04:47 PM
Dec 2019

he is def a xtian soldier, and wingitty. he fought in both gulf wars. but, he did actually have a strong affection for the afghanis. i dont think he lumped them all as terrorists.
totally in the bushie camp, anyway.

mercuryblues

(14,531 posts)
10. The 1st thing a new President has to do
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 09:15 PM
Dec 2019

when they take office is fire everyone that has been hired since that fucking toad took office.

Right now I am sooooooo freaking happy my daughter didn't take the internship at the pentagon. She opted to get a Master's degree instead.

FakeNoose

(32,639 posts)
21. This /
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 09:44 PM
Dec 2019

Everyone hired by Chump since Day One needs to go. As soon as possible. Clean house and replace with previously trained (& unfairly fired) staff wherever possible.

lastlib

(23,225 posts)
43. Would that it could apply to the judges!
Fri Dec 20, 2019, 09:11 AM
Dec 2019

I wish we could do something about those basturds that The Basturd has put on the bench.....

diva77

(7,640 posts)
30. a quick google of recent military contracts with Lockheed Martin shows numerous
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 10:19 PM
Dec 2019

results -- for example:

Lockheed Martin’s F-35 fighter program gets $34 billion Pentagon contract, its biggest yet
Published Tue, Oct 29 201910:31 AM

Key Points

The Pentagon announced a $34 billion F-35 contract with Lockheed Martin, the largest contract yet for the defense company’s costly fighter program.
The deal is for the delivery of 478 of the aircraft.
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/10/29/lockheed-martin-costly-f-35-program-gets-biggest-pentagon-contract-yet.html


Lockheed Martin gets $3.3B contract for communications satellite work
By
Ed Adamczyk
https://www.upi.com/Defense-News/2019/11/18/Lockheed-Martin-gets-33B-contract-for-communications-satellite-work/9421574094177/
Nov. 18 (UPI) -- Lockheed Martin Co. was awarded a $3.3 billion contract for orbital operations, logistics and support of three U.S. Air Force satellite systems.

The Defense Department announced the 10-year contract on Friday. It calls for maintenance of the Advanced Extremely High Frequency program, used by the U.S. Air Force and allies British Armed Forces, Canadian Armed Forces and Royal Netherlands Armed Forces, as well as two older systems, Milstar and the Defense Satellite Communications System, used by the United States alone.

Each is a constellation of satellites in a fixed orbit. The AEHF program is composed of six satellites. The first was sent into orbit in 2010, and the last is scheduled to be launched in 2020.

The Milstar and DSCS satellites were launched between 1994 and 2003. Although older, many of the satellites remain operational.

The programs are designed to keep the White House and other government agencies functioning, even in the event of a nuclear attack, and maintain government functions regardless of conditions on the ground.

Lockheed Martin has been the U.S. government's preferred contractor on the programs since 2009, and the contract announced on Friday was a sole source acquisition award.


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not sure whether this has any connection to any of this, but the $$$$ amounts are staggering and it would seem rather UNcoincidental to have this type of occurrence with personnel referred to in OP

kimbutgar

(21,139 posts)
16. We can only hope the founders of this country are standing with us in spirit
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 09:24 PM
Dec 2019

Guiding us in a perilous journey of protecting our construction and the rule of law. The US was founded on the principal of democracy, meaning the will of the people enshrined in our constitution by the words “we the people” basically a rule of the people by representation not a monarchy.

Karadeniz

(22,513 posts)
17. The Trump admin is nothing more than a soap opera...individuals seeking their own petty,
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 09:26 PM
Dec 2019

Egotistical ends.I'm.

mopinko

(70,099 posts)
26. if they the slightest inclination to put good people in place, they would have never let him go.
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 10:05 PM
Dec 2019

he could be sec def, he really could. should.
i cannot possibly exaggerate what they let walk out the door, even if only in dollars.
language skills, a harvard phd, a family raised on base.

RVN VET71

(2,690 posts)
42. The article pretty much exposes Rood as a fool
Fri Dec 20, 2019, 09:10 AM
Dec 2019

with his nose up the butt of Dear Leader and who cares more about the fortunes of Lockheed Martin than the continued existence of the U.S. as an independent, secure state. He's the kind of political appointee in it for themselves who have no inclination or talent for independent thought.

James48

(4,436 posts)
25. Rood-
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 10:03 PM
Dec 2019

John Charles Rood (born 1968) is an American national security policymaker and government official who currently serves as the Under Secretary of Defense for Policy. Prior to assuming his current role, he was Senior Vice President of Lockheed Martin where he oversaw international business. He also served as Vice President for Domestic Business Development at Lockheed Martin and he was a Vice President at the Raytheon Company.

ProfessorGAC

(65,013 posts)
45. VP Of Domestic Business Development?
Fri Dec 20, 2019, 09:36 AM
Dec 2019

What the heck is that? 90+% of LH business is from government contracts.
There's only one Federal Government.
Sounds more like VP of D.C. Pocket Lining.

unblock

(52,212 posts)
32. This is how a purge happens
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 10:45 PM
Dec 2019

They put people in situations where they have to choose loyalty to the cult or loyalty to something else. Country, state, principles, god, whatever, it doesn't matter. If it's not loyalty to the cult then they push you out.

Quitting on principle unfortunately merely lets them hire a loyalist.

mopinko

(70,099 posts)
36. i'm pretty sure there are some in policy that didnt want those javelins going there.
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 11:16 PM
Dec 2019

otherwise, obama would have sent them. if i understand it, they didnt want them to fall into russian hands.
when i heard the way cheato bragged about that, it made me go hmmmm.

the whole arm sale part of this picture needs a little light shed.
remember the platform change.

Ford_Prefect

(7,895 posts)
44. Sounds as though we need further investigation by the IG and the Intel committee, eh?
Fri Dec 20, 2019, 09:30 AM
Dec 2019
ets- shit, i forgot the juiciest part- he says rood is involved in ukraine.

mopinko

(70,099 posts)
49. yup. i mean, we know the pentagon had to be on board, and they prolly didnt like it.
Fri Dec 20, 2019, 11:06 AM
Dec 2019

and that's just ukraine.

Grins

(7,217 posts)
50. Oh, does that bring back memories!
Fri Dec 20, 2019, 11:42 AM
Dec 2019

This happens all the time in Republican administrations.

My first thought reading this? Douglas Feith, undersecretary of defense for fiascos, about whom General Tommy Franks once called “the fucking stupidest guy on the face of the earth,” apparently for ideas he proposed to Franks and his planners. Quite a few from his staff quit, got re-assigned, or neutered in position by Feith and his pals on the Reich if they called out the stupid.

A British news magazine back in the day, writing on Feith, Libby, Wolfowitz and, of course, Richard Perle:

"But their headquarters is now the civilian defence secretary’s office, where these Republican political appointees are despised and distrusted by the largely Republican career soldiers."


That was true of Feith, Libby, Wolfowitz and Perle.

I once worked for with guy, a former West Pointer/Vietnam officer, who was a Reagan appointee to a high level slot the Army. Really liked him. Rarely did he lose his cool. First time I saw him go ballistic? Oliver North. Esp. When North showed up in full Marine uniform to be grilled by Congress.

Said he had been to some event that day that included some former and current high-ranking Marines - and they were freak-out LIVID!

mopinko

(70,099 posts)
54. interesting bit of history. thanks.
Fri Dec 20, 2019, 11:47 AM
Dec 2019

tho he wasnt in the pentagon in those days, he was high up in command by then.
several of the people you cite are in his retirement vid. lifelong republican until now.

Roy Rolling

(6,917 posts)
61. "Human Scum"
Fri Dec 20, 2019, 08:07 PM
Dec 2019

Your family member is today’s Human Scum award winner. Wear it as a badge of honor, he’s in good company.



mopinko

(70,099 posts)
63. yup. he has figured that out.
Sat Dec 21, 2019, 02:50 PM
Dec 2019

i have to suspect, knowing my gene pool, that there will be a book at some point.
trust it will be trumpeted here.

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