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Thu Dec 26, 2019, 09:27 PM

Melania Trump seems like a nice person.

But she really cannot be if she continues to be married to this horrid person.

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Reply Melania Trump seems like a nice person. (Original post)
Kath2 Dec 2019 OP
guillaumeb Dec 2019 #1
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Response to Kath2 (Original post)

Thu Dec 26, 2019, 09:29 PM

1. What could she possibly have seen in Trump?

Can you think of one positive quality he has that might have attracted her to him?

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Response to guillaumeb (Reply #1)

Thu Dec 26, 2019, 09:30 PM

3. A green card.

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Response to LakeArenal (Reply #3)

Thu Dec 26, 2019, 09:32 PM

5. and I'm sure the money

was never a factor. Yeah, right.

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Response to LakeArenal (Reply #3)

Thu Dec 26, 2019, 09:32 PM

7. Exactly.

And an anchor baby, and chain migrating parents.

But she is white, so the Trump voters approve of her.

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Response to guillaumeb (Reply #7)

Thu Dec 26, 2019, 09:33 PM

9. Yep, exactly!!! n/t

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Response to guillaumeb (Reply #1)

Thu Dec 26, 2019, 09:47 PM

25. Lots of moolah?

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Response to Ohiogal (Reply #25)

Thu Dec 26, 2019, 09:50 PM

26. And given that Trump lies about everything,

that explains how she always looks so angry.

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Response to guillaumeb (Reply #26)

Thu Dec 26, 2019, 10:01 PM

35. She and her husband just are not pleasant people.

They always look like they are pissed off and disdainful of everyone else around them. There is no empathy, no happiness, no curiosity there. Just a couple of stone cold hearts. If youíve ever seen photos of the two of them early in their marriage, he poses with her like sheís a prize that he won. We were so spoiled with the Obamas, who were openly affectionate with each other, and loved meeting with people from all walks of life.

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Response to Ohiogal (Reply #35)

Fri Dec 27, 2019, 11:16 AM

93. +1000

They deserve each other. They are both horrible people. He is much worse than she is, but she sticks with him so in a way she is just as morally bankrupt.

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Response to Ohiogal (Reply #35)

Fri Dec 27, 2019, 06:02 PM

118. Both approached marriage as a business deal.

One became a US citizen, and hoped for financial security.

The other needed a new "wife doll" to satisfy his need.

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Response to guillaumeb (Reply #1)

Fri Dec 27, 2019, 12:45 AM

57. She's a gold digger?

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Response to guillaumeb (Reply #1)

Fri Dec 27, 2019, 01:26 AM

61. She's hanging in for the pre-nup and hoping for a heart attack.

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Response to Kath2 (Original post)

Thu Dec 26, 2019, 09:30 PM

2. No she doesn't

soft-core porn model gets an "Einstein" visa to stay here, marry Dotard and have her anchor baby.

Then goes on national TV to push her husband's idiotic and racist birther conspiracy.

Did she speak up when he defamed Gold Star parents? A child with Asperger's? Etc. Etc.

She is not a nice person.

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Response to mcar (Reply #2)

Thu Dec 26, 2019, 11:12 PM

53. Right, nice person my ass

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Response to mcar (Reply #2)

Fri Dec 27, 2019, 12:18 PM

106. I forgot that she was into the birther thing too

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Response to Kath2 (Original post)

Thu Dec 26, 2019, 09:31 PM

4. Because nice people visit children caged by their husbands wearing a jacket saying they don't care.

🤷‍♀️

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Response to onecaliberal (Reply #4)

Thu Dec 26, 2019, 09:32 PM

6. That was so fucking awful.

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Response to Kath2 (Original post)

Thu Dec 26, 2019, 09:33 PM

8. Wha????

She wore an I don't Care jacket on her way to view the caged babies for gawd's sake.

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Response to LakeArenal (Reply #8)

Thu Dec 26, 2019, 09:35 PM

12. She is a heartless bitch.

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Response to Kath2 (Reply #12)

Thu Dec 26, 2019, 10:04 PM

36. Amen to that!

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Response to Kath2 (Original post)

Thu Dec 26, 2019, 09:34 PM

10. The fact she married him in the first place says all you need to know about her.

Never mind this "continues to be married" business. It is not like he changed character.

Trump is the same asshole he's been his entire -- well-documented b/c of his own efforts to get media attention -- adult life. She knew that when she married him.

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Response to Kath2 (Original post)

Thu Dec 26, 2019, 09:35 PM

11. She looks like she's the star in a hostage video, but she lost me completely with that stunt...

...visiting imprisoned kids while wearing a jacket that said, "I really don't care. Do U?"

No prenup is worth this kind of degradation.

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Response to Kath2 (Original post)

Thu Dec 26, 2019, 09:36 PM

13. She.is.a.trump.by.choice.

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Response to Kath2 (Original post)

Thu Dec 26, 2019, 09:36 PM

14. Don't be fooled, she's a "birther" just like her husband.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.teenvogue.com/story/melania-trump-supported-her-husbands-racist-birtherism-claims-on-tv/amp

Melania Trump Supported Her Husband's Racist Birtherism Claims on TV
People need to stop talking about "freeing Melania."
Teen Vogue by Lily Herman
JANUARY 23, 2017

<snip>
On April 20, 2011, Melania appeared on the Joy Behar Show and backed up her husband's allegations that Obama wasn't born in the state of Hawaii like live birth records suggest.

"Itís not only Donald who wants to see [Obama's birth certificate], itís American people who voted for him and who didnít vote for him. They want to see that," she argued. Behar then made the point that the birth certificate had already been on display and all over the internet. "We feel itís different than birth certificate," Melania responded.
<snip>

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Response to VOX (Reply #14)

Thu Dec 26, 2019, 09:37 PM

16. She is such an asshole.

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Response to Kath2 (Reply #16)

Thu Dec 26, 2019, 09:43 PM

20. Gold plated.

Like the Trumpís chandelier over their toilet.

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Response to VOX (Reply #14)

Thu Dec 26, 2019, 09:43 PM

21. THIS...

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Response to Kath2 (Original post)

Thu Dec 26, 2019, 09:36 PM

15. Seriously? A birther seems like a nice person? How?

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Response to 50 Shades Of Blue (Reply #15)

Thu Dec 26, 2019, 09:38 PM

18. I really think she id a rich, obnoxious bitch.

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Response to Kath2 (Reply #18)

Fri Dec 27, 2019, 09:53 AM

80. Wow, you used that word twice in the same thread.

My, my.

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Response to Kath2 (Original post)

Thu Dec 26, 2019, 09:38 PM

17. She is a terrible person.

She is a liar. She lies about how many languages she speaks, lied that she had a degree in Architecture from ďUniversity in Slovenia,Ē went on television and in an interview with Joy Behar insisted that Barack Obamaís birth certificate was fake, has not spoken out once to defend the victims of her husbandís constant bullying and draconian policies, and continues to defend and enable her criminal husband.

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Response to madaboutharry (Reply #17)

Thu Dec 26, 2019, 09:40 PM

19. She sucks.

Literally and figuratively.

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Response to Kath2 (Original post)

Thu Dec 26, 2019, 09:44 PM

22. good thread

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Response to Kurt V. (Reply #22)

Thu Dec 26, 2019, 09:45 PM

23. LOL.

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Response to Kath2 (Reply #23)

Thu Dec 26, 2019, 09:47 PM

24. +1

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Response to Kath2 (Original post)

Thu Dec 26, 2019, 09:51 PM

27. And what exactly would lead to believe that she is 'nice'. She is in on the whole god damn thing.nt

 

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Response to UniteFightBack (Reply #27)

Thu Dec 26, 2019, 09:53 PM

28. I fucking hate her. And Trump.

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Response to Kath2 (Original post)

Thu Dec 26, 2019, 09:54 PM

29. She's a birther.

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Response to greatauntoftriplets (Reply #29)

Thu Dec 26, 2019, 09:56 PM

30. She is so fucking weird.

I really dislike her.

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Response to Kath2 (Reply #30)

Thu Dec 26, 2019, 10:07 PM

38. That family has no redeeming qualities.

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Response to greatauntoftriplets (Reply #38)

Thu Dec 26, 2019, 10:09 PM

39. Agree 100%.

They all suck in every way.

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Response to Kath2 (Original post)

Thu Dec 26, 2019, 09:56 PM

31. The only thing that would be nice about Melania ....

is the day her and Donnie are kicked out of the White House. That will be real nice.

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Response to CatMor (Reply #31)

Thu Dec 26, 2019, 09:58 PM

33. I would love for her to go public about what an asshole he is.

She always looks fucking miserable. She should just fuck him over publicly.

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Response to Kath2 (Reply #33)

Thu Dec 26, 2019, 10:17 PM

43. Yes, that would be good ....

unfortunately she signed a pre-nup.

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Response to CatMor (Reply #43)

Thu Dec 26, 2019, 10:21 PM

45. She fucked up.

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Response to Kath2 (Reply #33)

Fri Dec 27, 2019, 01:48 PM

115. She can't. It would violate her prenup, I bet. Unlike the

WH employees, her "NDA" is enforceable.

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Response to Kath2 (Original post)

Thu Dec 26, 2019, 09:57 PM

32. ?

she does not seem nice, she really does not seem ANYTHING except plastic

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Response to Skittles (Reply #32)

Thu Dec 26, 2019, 10:00 PM

34. She seems a plastic person.

Perfect for the trump world.

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Response to Skittles (Reply #32)

Fri Dec 27, 2019, 10:07 AM

84. OP seems to have started the thread simply to use a gender based slur.

At least four times, but Iíve stopped counting.

Curious.

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Response to cwydro (Reply #84)

Fri Dec 27, 2019, 11:27 AM

94. Mmm-hmm

 

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Response to jberryhill (Reply #94)

Fri Dec 27, 2019, 11:30 AM

96. Rather revealing, imo.

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Response to cwydro (Reply #84)

Fri Dec 27, 2019, 06:30 PM

119. not sure how this is gender-based

I feel the same way about George Conway

on edit, OK, I think you are referring to the b word, which I too dislike

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Response to Kath2 (Original post)

Thu Dec 26, 2019, 10:11 PM

40. Huh? Not to me.

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Response to Goodheart (Reply #40)

Thu Dec 26, 2019, 10:14 PM

41. "Seems" as in looks and talks nice.

I know in her heart she has to be a nasty bitch.

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Response to Kath2 (Original post)

Thu Dec 26, 2019, 10:16 PM

42. This is a Slovenian sex worker who pretends to be a model.

Who supports the caging of babies as long as they are Not her babies.

Who pretends to speak 6 languages and only speaks one....think be best. And is constantly stealing from Michelle's accomplishments.

Who is a fake who gets plastic surgery to suit her disgusting pedophile incessetually inclined sex partner.

Who got an Einstein visa for taking off her clothes. Who hides her child from publicity to appear more sexually available.

How can you possibly think she seems like a nice person?

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Response to Farmer-Rick (Reply #42)

Thu Dec 26, 2019, 10:19 PM

44. I think she she sucks.

She comes off to the public as a "nice person." I know she is a cruel bitch.

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Response to Kath2 (Reply #44)

Thu Dec 26, 2019, 11:07 PM

50. Some folks are offended by an insult which only applies to women

 

Regardless of how odious any particular person might be, one would not use, for example, a racial epithet to characterize that person. There are those who suggest that epithets which only apply to one sex should not be used, for similar reasons.

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Response to jberryhill (Reply #50)

Fri Dec 27, 2019, 01:03 AM

59. When you're right, you're right.

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Response to jberryhill (Reply #50)

Fri Dec 27, 2019, 01:15 AM

60. I've used it to describe some men

It may not be politically correct, but there are times when no other word works as well in my view. I've never used it at Democratic Underground, however.

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Response to jberryhill (Reply #50)

Fri Dec 27, 2019, 09:49 AM

76. Especially repeating it over and over unnecessarily.

That is incredibly offensive.

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Response to MrsCoffee (Reply #76)

Fri Dec 27, 2019, 11:28 AM

95. Seems to be the point

 

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Response to jberryhill (Reply #95)

Fri Dec 27, 2019, 04:09 PM

117. Doing it in other threads too.

I guess that's how some people get their kicks.

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Response to MrsCoffee (Reply #76)

Fri Dec 27, 2019, 01:39 PM

113. Curious, isn't it?

Or maybe not.

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Response to cwydro (Reply #113)

Sat Dec 28, 2019, 02:15 AM

120. As our beloved First Lady might say,

"I really don't care."

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Response to jberryhill (Reply #50)

Fri Dec 27, 2019, 09:55 AM

82. That poster has used the word three times in this thread.

First I counted two times, but then saw the third.

Perhaps more. Speaks volumes.

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Response to Kath2 (Original post)

Thu Dec 26, 2019, 10:34 PM

46. No! N/T

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Response to Kath2 (Original post)

Thu Dec 26, 2019, 10:53 PM

47. She has all the warmth of a broken water heater.

She has the honor of being the First Lady and she acts as if it is a huge inconvenience to her. Then she whines about being mistreated.

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Response to Marie Marie (Reply #47)

Thu Dec 26, 2019, 10:57 PM

48. Stupid little rich girl.

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Response to Kath2 (Original post)

Thu Dec 26, 2019, 11:04 PM

49. I really don't care do u?

Doesn't sound like a nice person to

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Response to Kath2 (Original post)

Thu Dec 26, 2019, 11:08 PM

51. Said no one ever.

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Response to Kath2 (Original post)

Thu Dec 26, 2019, 11:09 PM

52. 'nice person'

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Response to Kath2 (Original post)

Thu Dec 26, 2019, 11:25 PM

54. I don't care do you?

Fuck her.

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Response to Kath2 (Original post)

Fri Dec 27, 2019, 12:18 AM

55. No, she's not nice at all.

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Response to RandySF (Reply #55)

Fri Dec 27, 2019, 12:53 AM

58. Yup, she's birther too

She's as deplorable as he is.

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Response to DesertRat (Reply #58)

Fri Dec 27, 2019, 03:30 AM

66. Yup 💯

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Response to Kath2 (Original post)

Fri Dec 27, 2019, 12:34 AM

56. I read this entire thread

Iím puzzled as to what your point was in starting it. You start by saying she seems nice to you then you agree with what every DUer says about her. How strange.

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Response to lunatica (Reply #56)

Fri Dec 27, 2019, 03:30 AM

67. Very astute observation nt

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Response to lunatica (Reply #56)

Fri Dec 27, 2019, 09:54 AM

81. Right?

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Response to lunatica (Reply #56)

Fri Dec 27, 2019, 09:57 AM

83. I was wondering the same thing. OP seems to love using a slur typically used against women.

Three times so far. Fascinating.

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Response to lunatica (Reply #56)

Fri Dec 27, 2019, 11:40 AM

98. It's a puzzler this one

 


Although I'm not sure the poster can reply in this thread anymore.

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Response to Kath2 (Original post)

Fri Dec 27, 2019, 01:38 AM

62. I see her as a high paying

Call girl. Nothing about her seems normal to me except her love for her son and since we rarely see him pictured with his dad I think she might actually protect him from him. Not sure if true but I think I read he lives with her parents.

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Response to Kath2 (Original post)

Fri Dec 27, 2019, 01:41 AM

63. Nice? Not really. nt

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Response to Kath2 (Original post)

Fri Dec 27, 2019, 01:49 AM

64. No she doesn't seem likeca nice person.

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Response to Kath2 (Original post)

Fri Dec 27, 2019, 02:56 AM

65. Melanie pushed the birther garbage like her husband, a vile creature.

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Response to Kath2 (Original post)

Fri Dec 27, 2019, 04:29 AM

68. That' strange...

... I never thought of her as a particularly nice person. I can't think of a single time or story where I thought she was nice.

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Response to Kath2 (Original post)

Fri Dec 27, 2019, 05:35 AM

69. I don't think the real Melania exists any more

She has been married to a malignant narcissist for a long time. She does what he tells her to do.

She may not even realize how much he has destroyed her soul. If she does realize that, then there must be a lot of things he is holding over her to keep her in line. At that point, her decisions boil down to what is best for someone else in the long run (due to the narcissist's power over those people's lives) -- probably her child and her parents -- and it no longer matters what is best for her.

No, I don't like her, based on what I see. But I do think there is something dreadfully wrong in her relationship with tRump. Maybe she knowingly sold her soul to the devil. Or maybe it was too late by the time she realized it.

That speech she gave where she plagiarized Michelle Obama was like a red flag to me. I doubt she wrote the speech or that she knew parts of it had been plagiarized. She trusted whoever was behind that ploy, and they were intending to humiliate her.

That's what I think because a narcissist did that to me one, back when I trusted him. That event had nothing to do with plagiarism, but it reeks of the same tactics I think may have been used on Melania.

I would hate to be Melania. It must be like living in a family of pit vipers. I really don't think any of us know enough about her to determine whether she, too, is a pit viper. Maybe I identify too closely with being married to a narcissist. That certainly means my opinion is biased.

Most of all, I think we have no idea of what Melania's motives are in anything she has done. We can make stuff up in our heads about her, but that does not mean what we surmise or opine is the truth.

Take that cheap coat she wore (i don't care, do you?). Do you really think she hunted for a cheap coat to buy that said those words? That is ludicrous to me. She was presented with the coat and told to wear it. We don't know whether she wanted to wear it or hated it. We won't know, either, because (IMO) Melania has been set up to be another tRump brand.

One thing I taught my kids, learned from my experiences, is to beware of people who make stuff up in their heads about anyone, and to be vigilant that they are not doing it themselves. People should consult the person they are attacking or (rarely) supporting, to make sure it is true. The target person is the only person who knows why s/he does things. And there doesn't have to be just one reason or motive for doing something -- sometimes there are several reasons.

I have known people who have done that to me. Said to me that my motive for doing something unselfish for the other person was just to get something for myself. And then not believing me when I stated otherwise, even when they benefited greatly from my actions. The good that came out of it for me was ancillary and not sought out by me. A happenstance. It was never the motive. Trouble is, when one makes stuff up in their heads about someone else, they cannot be budged when their target disputes it.

People who are famous, since I have never met any of them, are just brands. Much of the public information about them is either supportive of their brands, or not. It has nothing to do with the person they are in private. We can look at their behavior, past and present ... at their actions, to determine whether we believe what we see and hear. But always, we must realize in some small corner of our minds, that even the best among us may be performing the behaviors, the actions, in support of their brand.

I could think someone is a Very Good Person, then get to know them personally, and they get mad and throw a stapler at me. That one action would make me change my mind about their VGP designation.

All people are human, all make mistakes, have misguided motives, do bad things, think bad things, say bad things. It does not make sense to villify or celebrate someone completely, unless you really, truly know them in real life. Or unless they have done something so terribly evil that all bets are off because we know it when we see it. Same thing happens the other way - they can do something so wonderful that we don't care about their human failings.

I think Melania is not important in the grand scheme of politics in our country. What she wears, what she says, how she appears to be is of zero consequence. Those who adore her are tRumpers. I spent time on FR reading their comments about Michelle Obama, who appears to be a Very Good Person (I do not know her personally), and I was sickened by them all. I don't think that we should waste our time being like FReepers.

I said before that I don't like Melania -- her actions, her words, her sense of fashion are all included in that. If I had complete information about the situation she is in, my opinion might change in either direction. Meanwhile, I stand by my words -- she is not important.

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Response to CozyMystery (Reply #69)

Fri Dec 27, 2019, 10:14 AM

86. Your post is long, and I read every word - twice

Very insightful.

I, too, was married to a narcissist. I am so thankful that I got out, even if it took me over two decades. At first he treated me like I was a treasure, BUT I realized that he sometimes wasn't treating others well. I thought I could soften him. I thought I could bring out this nice person that I thought must dwell within him. I ultimately realized that he was exactly who appeared to me to be all the way through, from the outside to his core.

I have theories about what made him that way. Some horrible things happened in his childhood. I feel sorry for him for what he went through, but the best thing for me, and the rest of my family, was when I finally realized that I had to be done with him. There is no "fixing" a narcissist.

I agree about Melania. I, personally, am practically nauseated at the mere site of her, but she is not important. She is nothing.

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Response to CozyMystery (Reply #69)

Fri Dec 27, 2019, 10:37 AM

89. I am ecstatic to know that the real "Rorey" still exists

For the first part of my marriage to the narc, the real "Rorey" sort of got shoved down. A very significant series of events in a short period of time woke me up. It took an embarrassingly long period of time to fully wake up and get out. I can't even express how joyous I am that I get to finally be "me" again.

As far as Melania goes, I've seen no evidence that she was ever a "nice" person. She isn't making a big impact on the world. When -45 is out, she'll likely fade into obscurity.

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Response to Rorey (Reply #89)

Sun Dec 29, 2019, 01:10 AM

121. You give me hope

I have been married for 30 years, and I realized in the last year or so that the real "Cozy Mystery" is in me somewhere, but hard to find.

If it weren't for my kids (all adults) telling me about narcissism, and me then reading a ton of books about it, I would have not realized the situation I was in. For the first 17 years I thought something was wrong, but couldn't figure out what it was. I just knew that my husband was totally different, both from every other person I knew, and from the man I thought he was when I married him.

After that, I thought he had Asperger's. About 5 years ago my kids started telling me he was an abusive narcissist. I defended him, to their chagrin, but they didn't stop trying to get me to see the light.

I spent 6 months away from home because I was taking care of my mother during her final illness, and stuck around after she died so the house wouldn't be left empty while my sister got it ready for sale.

That 6 months was a difficult and very sad time for me, but I had this inexplicable lightness of being that disappeared within a day of my returning home.

I am moving, hopefully within the next 6 months. I am getting my ducks in a row. I told my husband, and he said that he hoped I knew that by doing this, I would destroy his life. I told him it has come to whether I destroy my life by staying, or leave. And I choose myself.

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Response to CozyMystery (Reply #121)

Sun Dec 29, 2019, 07:58 AM

122. Be strong

Your story sort of sounds similar to mine, in that it took being out of the situation to really see what the situation was. We were together for 25 years, married for 20. I was gone for most of nine months taking care of my dying parents. It took being out of my husband's narcissistic grasp to see what was going on. It took me another 13 years to realize that I had to get out, and it took me finding out that he had been cheating to give me the final push.

The experts say that we shouldn't try to diagnose someone as a narcissist, but there's no denying that my ex-husband is one. I was his supply, and when he realized that he was losing his grip on my he started badmouthing me to our friends and even to my own brother. My kids (they're not his) couldn't be swayed, and they've been my strength and my allies through all of the drama of the last 18 months. My ex-husband started grooming his next supply, a classmate from his high school whose husband had died. She was vulnerable....a perfect target for him.

I could go on for days. I'm just so thankful I'm out. There will be a few more interactions because he hasn't yet fulfilled all of the terms of the divorce. I'm probably going to have to take him to court for contempt to get him to fulfill one big obligation. He'll think I'm being vindictive, but I just want to be completely done with him.

Be strong, CozyMystery. It's not easy. I know in my head how important it is to go "no contact", but it's not easy. You've got a lot of history together, and it's hard to let it go. What was hardest for me was accepting that our future plans were never going to happen.

To help me get through and stay strong, I journaled. A lot. I also watched a ton of youtube videos about narcissism. One of my favorite channels was that of Dr. Ramani Durvasula. I learned who was going to be there for me, and I learned with whom I needed to eliminate contact.

I still have days when I obsess a bit, but for the most part I'm great. It took a long time, but I'm out. I get to be free and I get to be "me".

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Response to Kath2 (Original post)

Fri Dec 27, 2019, 05:54 AM

70. She's as phony and mean-spirited as the rest of the Trumps

I've seen not a scintilla of proof otherwise. What kind of a "nice" person would wear that "I Really Don't care, Do You?" jacket to visit children who'd been taken from their parents and locked in a cage?

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Response to Kath2 (Original post)

Fri Dec 27, 2019, 09:26 AM

71. I'm reminded of

Triumph the insult comic. Nice for me to poop on!

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Response to Kath2 (Original post)

Fri Dec 27, 2019, 09:33 AM

72. Nice? She's a racist and Birther..

and a fraud herself

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Response to Kath2 (Original post)

Fri Dec 27, 2019, 09:34 AM

73. mrs. trump

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Response to Kath2 (Original post)

Fri Dec 27, 2019, 09:35 AM

74. Some people like cold toilet seats in the winter, too.

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Response to Kath2 (Original post)

Fri Dec 27, 2019, 09:40 AM

75. She's not.

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Response to Kath2 (Original post)

Fri Dec 27, 2019, 09:49 AM

77. I'm sorry...but...

...she is trash as far as I am concerned. And...I don't base this on the fact that she was an escort and a nude model.

She is trash for many reasons, but one of the ones that is at the top of my list is the "I don't care" jacket she wore to when she went to see the children her POS spouse put in cages. Fuck her.

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Response to Kath2 (Original post)

Fri Dec 27, 2019, 09:49 AM

78. I haven't felt she was a nice person since her "I really don't care. . ." jacket fiasco.

Regardless what spin they tried to put on it, that showed me how she really feels.

She seems like a total fraud to me. She's been married to this horrid person for 14-15 years now. She knows who he is and she continues the marriage by her own choice.

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Response to Kath2 (Original post)

Fri Dec 27, 2019, 09:52 AM

79. Melania Trump is an opportunist.

I have yet to see any passion or emotion from her.

She has every right to choose a private life, but when she comments, or her handlers compose scripted comments for her Tweets or to phonetically recite at an event, she often deserves to be scrutinized and sometimes ridiculed.

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Response to Kath2 (Original post)

Fri Dec 27, 2019, 10:08 AM

85. .

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Response to Kath2 (Original post)

Fri Dec 27, 2019, 10:17 AM

87. Is she Putins spy?

Her husband fucked a porn star and she is still around. That says a lot about the third lady.

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Response to pwb (Reply #87)

Fri Dec 27, 2019, 11:04 AM

91. BINGO!

She is a Red Sparrow. She is his handler. Who translates when dump has his midnight phone calls with Vlad?

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Response to Kath2 (Original post)

Fri Dec 27, 2019, 10:21 AM

88. What??? Nice??? I have never seen any sign of that at all in her.

There's coldness, disdain, disrespect, greed, grifting, lying, serial plagiarizing Michelle, and selling her soul & other parts for money. She is in a hell of her own choosing and is the worst FLOTUS - EVER!! They deserve each other because she doesn't leave, despite all his infidelities and subtle hates and show of disrespect, she doesn't care as long as she's getting the $$. I have nothing but contempt for this illegal immigrant porno worker.

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Response to lark (Reply #88)

Fri Dec 27, 2019, 10:42 AM

90. I think they've always deserved each other

He got his arm candy (though, personally, I don't think she's attractive at all), and she got $$$.

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Response to Kath2 (Original post)

Fri Dec 27, 2019, 11:11 AM

92. Sorry, I don't see anything "nice" about her. (nt)

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Response to Kath2 (Original post)

Fri Dec 27, 2019, 11:32 AM

97. You are kidding, right?

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Response to Freedomofspeech (Reply #97)

Fri Dec 27, 2019, 11:57 AM

100. Read the OP's comments throughout the thread, and perhaps you'll be as confused as some of us.

Fascinating.

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Response to cwydro (Reply #100)

Fri Dec 27, 2019, 12:22 PM

107. She is just as nice as her despicable

Piece of crap husband.🤮

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Response to Freedomofspeech (Reply #107)

Fri Dec 27, 2019, 12:29 PM

108. No quibble with that; just a bit confused as to the purpose of the OP.

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Response to cwydro (Reply #108)

Fri Dec 27, 2019, 01:08 PM

111. Me, too!!!

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Response to Kath2 (Original post)

Fri Dec 27, 2019, 11:43 AM

99. She is about as warm, caring, and compassionate as a Barbie doll...

.... that has been left in a deep freeze freezer for about a week.

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Response to Kath2 (Original post)

Fri Dec 27, 2019, 11:59 AM

101. This is flame bait bullshit

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Response to Kath2 (Original post)

Fri Dec 27, 2019, 12:01 PM

102. I don' know

I wonder sometimes if, when it's all said and done, her story might not be the most interesting. Shitler is just a low I Q mafia thug, but she is much harder to "read".

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Response to Kath2 (Original post)

Fri Dec 27, 2019, 12:05 PM

103. a nice person would slit her own wrists before allowing THAT

thing to crawl into her bed.

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Response to Kath2 (Original post)

Fri Dec 27, 2019, 12:11 PM

104. Honest question

What has she done that makes you think she's a nice person? I haven't seen any redeeming qualities come from her. Doesn't make her a bad person necessarily but certainly doesn't qualify her to be a nice person.

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Response to Kath2 (Original post)

Fri Dec 27, 2019, 12:17 PM

105. She doesn't really seem like a nice person to me

Based on what I've observed, she has the same putrid attitudes towards other people that Trump has. And her "Be Best" anti-bullying campaign is a total sham until or unless she gets her hubby to......um....stop bullying people. And she's hypocritical as hell for getting all outraged and mighty when somebody "uses her child's name in vain", but not when her hubby goes after a young climate activist. I don't really care, do U?

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Response to Kath2 (Original post)

Fri Dec 27, 2019, 01:03 PM

109. This means her PR people have been somewhat effective.

I remember Ivanka and Jared's are Hollywood types, perhaps Melania's are as well?

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Response to Kath2 (Original post)

Fri Dec 27, 2019, 01:07 PM

110. Bwahhhaaahhhaaaahhhhaaaa! Bwahhhaaahhhaaaahhhhaaaa! Bwahhhaaahhhaaaahhhhaaaa!

Bwahhhaaahhhaaaahhhhaaaa! roll: roll: roll: roll: roll: roll: roll: roll: roll: roll: roll: roll: roll: roll: roll: roll: roll: roll: roll: roll: roll:

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Response to Kath2 (Original post)

Fri Dec 27, 2019, 01:36 PM

112. I used to counsel domestic violence victims. She has all the classic symptoms of DV.


I hope she can escape this horror soon. She had 50 million of her own money. There is no reason to stay in this marriage. You only go around once.

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Response to Kath2 (Original post)

Fri Dec 27, 2019, 01:41 PM

114. I wouldn't give her cpr.

I think the world would be better off without her, just like dotard. She really doesn't care, and does as little as possible as first floozy.

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Response to Kath2 (Original post)

Fri Dec 27, 2019, 01:50 PM

116. She is absolutely NOT a nice person.

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