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turbinetree

(24,695 posts)
Thu Dec 26, 2019, 11:49 PM Dec 2019

MSNBC host Chris Hayes argues Mitch McConnell made a 'big tactical error' in Trump's defense

Written by Cody Fenwick December 27, 2019

MSNBC host Chris Hayes argued on Thursday that Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell made a “big tactical error” by admitting on Fox News that he was in lockstep with President Donald Trump’s defense team as the coming impeachment trial looms.

In light of Alaska Republican Sen. Lisa Murkowski’s criticism of McConnell’s claims of a complete alliance with the White House as the Senate takes over impeachment is was disturbing, and she said it might confuse voters, Hayes said the leader’s blunder has become clear.

McConnell last week said explicitly to Fox News host Sean Hannity that, heading into the trial, “there will be no difference between the president’s position and our position as to how to handle this.”

“It’s kind of an amazing admission,” Hayes said Thursday.

https://www.alternet.org/2019/12/msnbc-host-chris-hayes-argues-mitch-mcconnell-made-a-big-tactical-error-in-trumps-defense/

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MSNBC host Chris Hayes argues Mitch McConnell made a 'big tactical error' in Trump's defense (Original Post) turbinetree Dec 2019 OP
I think it was a huge blunder Sewa Dec 2019 #1
Right. Admitting favoring one side on TV will backfire. brush Dec 2019 #11
I think they will get away with it mucifer Dec 2019 #2
He did indeed - but like the honey badger, he don't care. sandensea Dec 2019 #3
Yeah, but in the end that will backfire. PatrickforO Dec 2019 #4
Your words to God's ear sandensea Dec 2019 #7
Exactly. Every Republican knows Trump is guilty. The reason they support him is....They Don't Care Midnight Writer Dec 2019 #5
True. Like Ghouliani, they just want to die rich - and if that means treason, so be it. sandensea Dec 2019 #8
Agree. moondust Dec 2019 #6
Murkowski hasn't backtracked or clarified her comment. madaboutharry Dec 2019 #9
I agree with Chris Hayes. ooky Dec 2019 #10
McTurtle shows nothing but contempt for the majority the American people & our Constitution. rickyhall Dec 2019 #12
The real shame is that it has taken a week ... Whiskeytide Dec 2019 #13
Maybe we need to make the remuneration and benefits for a Senator less attractive. Grasswire2 Dec 2019 #14
Term limits would help. nt Grasswire2 Dec 2019 #15
Term limits would eliminate good politicians as fast as bad ones FiveGoodMen Dec 2019 #21
Their salaries are lunch money Mr.Bill Dec 2019 #17
If Murkowski had three other Rs at her side I'd take it seriously. comradebillyboy Dec 2019 #16
Gardner, McSally, Tillis? Thunderbeast Dec 2019 #18
Have we heard a word from those three? comradebillyboy Dec 2019 #20
What's the worst that can happen to him? Baked Potato Dec 2019 #19
It seems like such a blunder that it makes you wonder if Trump didn't force him to do it. gulliver Dec 2019 #22

Sewa

(1,255 posts)
1. I think it was a huge blunder
Thu Dec 26, 2019, 11:57 PM
Dec 2019

He was way to cocky and treating the impeachment process like it’s a joke will haunt him

sandensea

(21,627 posts)
3. He did indeed - but like the honey badger, he don't care.
Fri Dec 27, 2019, 12:02 AM
Dec 2019

These Republican kleptocarts have come to expect such a degree of impunity, that they really no longer care how anything "looks" anymore.

They're just rubbing it in everyone's faces at this point.

PatrickforO

(14,572 posts)
4. Yeah, but in the end that will backfire.
Fri Dec 27, 2019, 12:17 AM
Dec 2019

At this point, it isn't even arrogance. It is hubris - a huge overweening arrogance blind to its effect on others.

In the end, good will win out.

It will. I believe that.

sandensea

(21,627 posts)
7. Your words to God's ear
Fri Dec 27, 2019, 12:23 AM
Dec 2019

If there's anything we've come to expect from politics over the last 20 years or so, it'all the sudden twists and turns (more even than usual!).

Often for worse - but sometimes for the better too.

sandensea

(21,627 posts)
8. True. Like Ghouliani, they just want to die rich - and if that means treason, so be it.
Fri Dec 27, 2019, 12:24 AM
Dec 2019

You make an omelet, you break a few eggs right?

moondust

(19,979 posts)
6. Agree.
Fri Dec 27, 2019, 12:21 AM
Dec 2019

I thought it was a stupid thing to say when I heard it. I guess that's the unbelievable arrogance of a sick little man utterly corrupted by too much power.

Make him pay big time for it.

madaboutharry

(40,209 posts)
9. Murkowski hasn't backtracked or clarified her comment.
Fri Dec 27, 2019, 12:33 AM
Dec 2019

It’s been a couple of days now and she’s let it hang out there.

So maybe she means it.

It could be there are others silently standing with her.

Either way I do think McConnell showed he has a big mouth and when he’s over at Fox gets sucked into the hubris vortex and says stupid things.

ooky

(8,922 posts)
10. I agree with Chris Hayes.
Fri Dec 27, 2019, 12:40 AM
Dec 2019

I think he should recuse, and Lindsey Graham too. Both of them will have to lie when they take the oath based on what they have said publicly and shouldn't be allowed to vote on his guilt or innocence.

Grasswire2

(13,569 posts)
14. Maybe we need to make the remuneration and benefits for a Senator less attractive.
Fri Dec 27, 2019, 02:03 AM
Dec 2019

They are far too greedily holding on to those seats without regard for their oath of office.

FiveGoodMen

(20,018 posts)
21. Term limits would eliminate good politicians as fast as bad ones
Fri Dec 27, 2019, 04:43 PM
Dec 2019

No one could vote to keep someone that actually helped or had any experience.

But the lobbyists would still be there to screw up the next round.

And voting for known quantities would go out the window.

Every election would be a crap shoot.

comradebillyboy

(10,144 posts)
16. If Murkowski had three other Rs at her side I'd take it seriously.
Fri Dec 27, 2019, 02:11 AM
Dec 2019

Who really expects Susan Collins or Mitt Romney to show much courage. I don't recall who was supposed to be the fourth profile in courage. The republican senators aren't going to turn against Mitch any time soon.

comradebillyboy

(10,144 posts)
20. Have we heard a word from those three?
Fri Dec 27, 2019, 11:28 AM
Dec 2019

I don't think there are four Republicans with the guts to stand ump to either Trump or McConnell.

Baked Potato

(7,733 posts)
19. What's the worst that can happen to him?
Fri Dec 27, 2019, 11:03 AM
Dec 2019

Get voted out and go on his merry way... he’s rich. He don’t care...

gulliver

(13,180 posts)
22. It seems like such a blunder that it makes you wonder if Trump didn't force him to do it.
Fri Dec 27, 2019, 05:08 PM
Dec 2019

McConnell needs Trump as much as Graham does. McGrath is breathing down McConnell's neck.

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