Trump Is Really, Really Unpopular With Young People

[no_hypocrisy]

Yeah, it's 2017, but do you really believe Trump has seduced any more youth voters ? ? ?


http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2017/08/trump-is-really-really-unpopular-with-young-people.html?fbclid=IwAR1rtg0v9BCfpVzpZKZiPj6tgELUcpqhRmE-f7hqYoj2n7ykzJ8yOVHBAwE


It’s not exactly breaking news that millennials are not a hotbed of support for Donald J. Trump (or for that matter, his party). But via Axios, we learn that the latest weekly Gallup approval-rating numbers for the president among 18-to-29-year-olds have hit a dismal new low of 20 percent.

Trump’s approval rating in this age cohort has been sloping downward since late April, when it stood at a merely abysmal 36 percent.

Like most Republicans, of course, Trump’s popularity is directly proportional to the number of years poll respondents have been walking the earth. He’s currently at 33 percent among 30-to-49-year-olds; 42 percent among 50-to-64-year-olds; and 43 percent among those over the age of 65. If you have to pick where to be strong or weak, this is the pattern you’d like in the very short term, since likelihood to vote is also more or less directly related to age. These Gallup numbers are not screened for voter registration, much less likelihood to vote, so the overall profile for Trump isn’t quite as bad as it looks when it comes to people who will, for example, be voting in 2018.

In the long run, though, you don’t want your political party to be led by someone who is loathed by the voters of the future. No, people of a given generation don’t always vote the same way over time, but when there is a degree of antipathy this strong, it’s hard to overcome.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

1. Hating Trump is useless unless they also vote.

[OnDoutside]

2. Bingo.

[Vogon_Glory]

5. So Where Were You, Kiddies, In 2016? And Can We Expect A Similar Performance in 2020?

At the risk of sounding like a grouchy old fart (I'm crowding 65), I've been repeatedly disappointed by the youth vote that was supposedly going to happen in 2010, 2012, 2014, and 2016. While many young people DID turn out, worked campaigns, and went to the polls and voted in those elections , all too many of their contemporaries sat on their butts and didn't bother to vote, despite ample opportunities for learning where and when to vote and ample opportunities to vote even before Election Day.

I may sound like a nasty old fart saying this, but here's something you didn't pay any attention to back when you were taking history and civics class back in high school: Elections aren't supposed to be about popularity contests. Elections are about choosing your city's, your state's, and your country's leaders and for you all to express your interests.

Are you interested in voting for a habitable planet? Are you interested in having access to affordable health care? Are you interested in having access to an affordable education? Do you want relief from the crushing load of student debt that keeps you from getting even half-way to where your parents were when they got out of school? If you are, you should, and should have, voted for those politicians who represent your interests.

You hate judges like the ones still trying to tank the Affordable Care Act? That's on the Republicans, but it's also on you, slackers.

You hate appointed bureaucrats doing their best to block relief from student loan debt? That's on the Republicans, but it's also on you, slackers.


You hate the assault on clean air and water and worry about whether your water supply will be safe to drink or whether you'll get food poisoning from what you eat? That's on the Republicans, but it's also on you, slackers.

You hate politicians who seek to criminalize what you do with your honey in private and then try to make it hard for you to get access to birth control? That's on the Republicans, but it's also on you, slackers.

If you want change for the better instead of change for the worse, get off your lazy backsides, register to vote, THEN VOTE!!

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

6. Count me among the old folks yelling at the kids to get off my lawn and VOTE!

[greatauntoftriplets]

34. The ones in my family were too young to vote.

[Vogon_Glory]

37. Yours may have been, but the 23-year+ age bracket lacks that excuse

And I still don’t feel like giving the disingenues of 2014 and 2016 free passes.

[TheBlackAdder]

23. Yep! People have to tell them that voting by Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, etc. doesn't count!

.

How they voted:

:large


Meanwhile, did they vote:



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[paleotn]

31. Precisely...

If one doesn't vote, one gets the government they deserve.

[underpants]

3. Contrasted with a nice class act like Obama this can't be a surprise

His personality will be his undoing. There is a like ability factor.

[Cicada]

4. Republicans are on a death march

As the young vote in larger numbers, and old white men drop dead in front of their TVs playing Fox News, the Republican Party will cease to be a national political party.

Trump is fifty fifty to be re-elected but after him we will make real progress

[edhopper]

7. If we have a country

"after him"

[Cicada]

10. We can rebuild

We have survived other disasters

[world wide wally]

24. That's because people did something about the disasters

[Cicada]

35. What works for me is to go underground and pop up say after 13 years

[Vogon_Glory]

11. They aren't dead yet and they can still do a lot of damage before they die

Even without the frightful proposals coming out of the White House, right-wing think tanks, and Republican politicians, just think about how much better off the USA would be if the so-called “Conservative” movement had been side-lines by alert, aware, enlightened electorate.

Rattlers are still dangerous as long as they can bite, and sometimes afterwards.

[treestar]

14. When they are that age, they will be conservative too

just like every generation.

So they have to vote NOW.

I don't understand, because I myself voted in every election, including all midterms, since I was old enough to vote. I can't imagine not bothering or not being excited enough. I always found the election itself enough, I guess.

[homegirl]

33. I beg to differ...

as a member of the much older generation, Depression Baby, I, and most of my equally aged friends are very liberal and progressive. Age does encourage wisdom and a generous spirit. Probably just the FOX recliner crowd who are capable of blocking out the long term damage caused by the Trump Administration.

Just another thought: I will never understand the conservative opposition to a living wage. Do they not realize how many government support agencies would be eliminated or reduced in scope if people who work did not need government support systems to survive.

[treestar]

43. I know there are older progressives

just seems they are in the minority in the oldest age groups and that never seems to change. Baby boomers who were young in the late 1960s when it was perceived the young people were forward-looking, but now the greater number vote for the Orange Menace.

Yes, conservatives never think of that. I guess they just like for someone to suffer. Trump sure brings that out of them well.

[Jspur]

44. I disagree with

you because you also have to factor in race. I'm 36 years old and I'm a minority. I'm an Indian male. I was born in this country but my parents are from India. I have hated the republican party since I was teenager. I grew up in Jesse Helms NC and experienced a lot of racism growing up. Even after all these years I'm still a democrat and nothing has changed. I can say the same about my other minority friends black,asian hispanic. For the most part minorities will vote democratic for the rest of their life but it's really the white voters that change when they get older. That can go from progressive to conservative. The millennial generation and generation Z are the most diverse generations. It's one of the reasons why the republicans fear for the future with the white electorate diminishing in size.

[Firestorm49]

8. I'd be really impressed with this set of statistics if I knew they came out to vote.

[comradebillyboy]

16. They will once they are older and more conservative.

[yardwork]

25. Snort! This is probably true, unfortunately.

[MineralMan]

9. Now, if we can get that age group to vote in far higher numbers

than they typically do, that'll be great.

[Efilroft Sul]

12. The young of this country outvoted the Boomers in the 2018 midterms

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/gen-voters-outnumbered-boomers-2018-midterms/story?id=63384352

[lunasun]

17. +++Thanks I have posted this @ du too many times already : (

The younger voting groups cast 60.2 million votes – 51% of the total vote – in the 2018 midterm elections. In contrast, Baby Boomers and older generations accounted for 60.1 million votes – with Baby Boomers comprising 36% of the total vote, according to Pew.

[Efilroft Sul]

40. You're welcome!

It seems, however, that some people want to continue believing what they want to believe about younger Americans.

[treestar]

13. Maybe if they'd voted in the swing states in 2016

they would not be dealing with this.

[randr]

15. The DNC and all of us should be concentrating

on voter turnout, period.

[calimary]

21. PERIOD.

[James48]

18. My parents both voted for Trump.

My StepDad (age 86) died last year. He won’t be voting for Trump next time.

My Mom’s vision is so bad they just took away her drivers license. (Age 85). Although I love her greatly, I have not yet offered to help her get a State non-drivers ID, required to vote in my state. I was thinking I’d just let her figure out that she can’t vote without a picture ID on Election Day.

Am I going to burn in hell for that?

[UniteFightBack]

20. No dear you'll be burning in hell for other things I'm sure but hey...she can't blame you she can

blame the people who put those regulations in place. Ya know the Russiapublicans who only like regulations when it comes to voting and pussies.

[47of74]

29. I remember a few years in Grant County, Wisconsin

The local paper had a story about all the Republicans bitching about having to show IDs at the polls. I seriously considered sending a letter to the editor explaining that’s what they wanted and that the laws applied to them as well. And go on to say that the laws just didn’t apply to the people in Madison and Milwaukee they didn’t want to vote.

[yardwork]

27. Like you, I'm working on not being the one who rescues.

Unless your mom asks you to help her obtain a voter ID, it's not your responsibility to bring it up.

This is a lifelong habit that I'm working to overcome.

[PatrickforO]

30. I have some pretty mixed feelings about that, James.

Your signature line says Vote. There's nothing more important.

Yet, you plan, through inaction, to suppress her vote. My only advice to you would be to think very carefully before you carry this through. I would counsel against it. Your mother needs her state issued ID for other stuff, and for an elderly person losing her driver's license is tantamount to losing most of her independence. You should help her get the ID and if she wants to vote, you should drive her to the polling place. Yeah, she might vote for Trump, but she has that right, just as you have the right to vote for whomever you wish. That's supposedly how our country works. Or should.

But look at all these purges - Georgia for instance. We say when Republicans act to suppress the vote that it isn't OK and even go so far as to point out what they are doing is illegal.

That said, my ex-son-in-law is a young kid, in his thirties. Has a great job. He's one of those macho-men type of guys. He watches sports at the expense of everything else, and he can give you an in-depth analysis of the strength of the roster of any football, baseball, basketball or hockey team, and if you ask him how he thinks Mizzou will do next season, he'll be able to wax quite eloquently on the whole matter.

But when it comes to politics, and to the policy issues that affect him, he is utterly ignorant. Stupidly ignorant. No-clue kind of ignorant. And, of course, he is nominally a Republican. Or if he voted, that is how he would vote. But he doesn't vote. By choice.

Your mother may not be this ignorant, but elderly people tend to vote Republican because the Republicans campaign mostly on fear. Since elderly people are on fixed incomes they tend to be a bit more fearful. I know locally, people who don't want school mill levies to pass bus the seniors in so they can vote 'no.' And yet, they do have that right.

My ex-son-in-law is no longer my problem to try and educate, but seems like your mom might profit from a little education around what Republicans have proposed to do with Social Security and Medicare, and certainly what they have done that has contributed to rising drug and medical costs. I've never understood elderly people who blindly vote Republican.

I'm an AARP member and I am completely at sea about why they aren't putting out some really strong editorials and education pieces about Social Security and Medicare. Did you know, for instance, that Medicare used to cover 100% of health care costs until the GOP made sure it didn't? And did you know that you're taxed on Social Security income? and that if you retire before your 'full retirement' age, the maximum income you can earn is $10,400 a year? Think about those things, and then tell me the GOP is your mom's friend. Because they are not.

To my mind, we need to be educating our seniors because they always vote. They do. Elderly people, if physically and mentally able, vote like clockwork.

Anyway, sorry for the lecture. I just think we need to reflect on situations like this, and act in accordance with what we say we stand for as opposed to what is expedient.

[UniteFightBack]

19. I really wish the young people in my life would give a molecule of shit....nt

[PatrickforO]

22. Yeah, my kids, both in their thirties, REALLY dislike Trump.

And they both DO vote.

[kimbutgar]

26. Even kids younger than that

I work as a substitute teacher and the kids love to make negative comments about mf45 and yes his name as a put down with one another. I heard kids say you acting like mf45 if a kid is being a jerk. The first time I heard it I laughed but I hear it all the time now.

These millennials started their political awareness having a smart, loving and compassionate President in Obama and can see that mf45 is a buffoon and embarrassment to our country. President Obama was cheered throughout the world mf45 is jeered.

[yardwork]

28. Both my millennial kids despise Trump and they will vote for the Democratic nominee.

They probably won't like the Democratic nominee very much but they will vote for them.

Unfortunately, Russian/Republican propaganda is having a negative impact on people on the left.

[Codeine]

32. Who gives a shit?

They don’t vote, so their opinion is utterly irrelevant.

[Fiendish Thingy]

36. The youth vote will be key to Democratic victory in 2020

Ignoring, or worse, disparaging, youth voters is the path to defeat.

Unlocking the key to maximizing youth voter turnout (hint: it’s not by nominating a Status Quo moderate) would give Democrats the White House, Senate and house majorities for a generation or more.

[Vogon_Glory]

39. Minority Votes Will Be Another Key Factor

If enough Latinos in Texas and Arizona come out to vote, it won’t matter how many hateful right-wingers Donald Frederickovitch and his Russian backers rouse out from Wisconsin and Florida retirement villages, he’ll have lost.

[Anon-C]

38. If formerly democratic candidates who marketed/campaigned overwhelmingly to young voters

...were to then mount a third-party run, you could "sink" that youth vote and re-elect Donald Trump.

"Logical, flawlessly logical."

[TeamPooka]

41. The Youth movement hated Richard Nixon too. He got re-elected though.

[Cosmocat]

45. And many of them are the older people supporting trump now

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