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MineralMan

(146,307 posts)
Sun Dec 29, 2019, 02:24 PM Dec 2019

Alexa and The TV in the Living Room

Alexa is all the rage this year, apparently. Even we have an Echo in the living room, which my wife uses to play NPR all day. I use it to set cooking timers. Now, we have radios in the house, and I have a nice digital kitchen timer I used to use. But, Alexa can do those things. Christmas brought two Echo Dots into the house, as well. One is in my office in the basement and the other is in my wife's office in what would otherwise be a spare bedroom upstairs. I discovered that Alexa makes a good intercom system between those two rooms, so we no longer have email or text messages to each other. I just say, "Alexa. Call {wife's name}'s device." I didn't know if that would work, but it does.

The popularity of Amazon's Alexa devices has led to an interesting phenomenon, though. Several current TV ads contain interactions between the actors in the ads and an Alexa device. Our own Echo in the living room hears those, and sometimes responds to them. In one ad, a woman talking to her father on her Alexa video device says, "Alexa, hang up!" Our Echo says, "Sorry, I have no call in progress." She respond to other uses of the word Alexa on the television, too. It's interesting and adds a sort of randomness to our lives.

Alexa devices are tied to your Amazon account, and to your cell phone. So, Alexa has access to your cell phone's contact list. As an experiment, while I was downstairs where my cell phone was used to set up the Echo Dot, I said, "Alexa. Call Dad." I didn't know whether the device could make a phone call, but shortly, I heard my father's phone ringing, and he answered. So, I now have a speaker phone that is voice activated.

Children like Alexa, too. She can tell stories and jokes if you ask her to. She can do lots of things, actually. Children have learned to say, "Alexa. I want {desired item}." Alexa will find that item on Amazon and say, "I found {desired item}. It's available for $$. Do you want to order it?" The child, quite naturally, says, "Yes," and the item soon arrives at your door. If your Alexa device is tied to an Amazon Prime account, it might even be delivered the same day.

Alexa knows when your package arrives, too. The minute the Amazon delivery person puts in on your doorstep, Alexa lights up and makes a noise. You say, "Alexa. Do I have a notification?" Alexa says, "I have one notification. One Amazon package with {desired item} has been delivered." So, you go to the door, and Voila! There it is. If you're a child, Mom may never have to know it came.

Alexa is amazing. But she's sneaky. You have to watch what you say to her, apparently. I wonder what else she can do...

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Alexa and The TV in the Living Room (Original Post) MineralMan Dec 2019 OP
we have an Alexa show in kitchen, the tall Alexa in the bedroom and dots in the rest of the rooms. demtenjeep Dec 2019 #1
But, I like the randomness of it. I'm funny that way. MineralMan Dec 2019 #2
ask her if she's married demtenjeep Dec 2019 #5
Oh, I'd love to be on the team that generates MineralMan Dec 2019 #6
I just tried that. Same answer. The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2019 #27
Only if you are a white boy Eliot Rosewater Dec 2019 #77
LOL! MineralMan Dec 2019 #89
I am describing to my wife how to turn up our NEST thermostat using "Hey Google" Eliot Rosewater Dec 2019 #90
I can imagine. Our thermostat is an old Honeywell round one. MineralMan Dec 2019 #92
Oh just wait till you inevitably get a smart thermostat...the laughs and AC being on in winter, etc Eliot Rosewater Dec 2019 #93
Our thermostat only controls our furnace. MineralMan Dec 2019 #94
Amazon Echo Silver: CottonBear Dec 2019 #3
I can't watch that. Who knows what my Alexa Dot would do? MineralMan Dec 2019 #4
"I don't know about that!" NurseJackie Dec 2019 #7
Never fails to make me DeminPennswoods Dec 2019 #8
Brilliant! Hekate Dec 2019 #24
OK, that's funny NBachers Dec 2019 #52
"Allegra!" CottonBear Dec 2019 #54
Call me a backward troglodyte, but... Binkie The Clown Dec 2019 #9
I can one-up you on that. Disaffected Dec 2019 #12
B-F-D!!!!! MyOwnPeace Dec 2019 #41
Sorry but, Disaffected Dec 2019 #42
DAMN!!!!!! MyOwnPeace Dec 2019 #44
Try Cricket. $35 per month with more data than I can use and unlimited talk and text. Squinch Dec 2019 #45
Same essme Dec 2019 #63
Alexa can help people with dementia also. gulliver Dec 2019 #10
I got one for Christmas, but it won't let me set it up! Scotch-Irish Dec 2019 #11
I don't know why that is. You set it up with an app on your phone. MineralMan Dec 2019 #13
Check your Amazon password. You might have it wrong. MineralMan Dec 2019 #19
Thanks, Mineral Man. Scotch-Irish Dec 2019 #62
I got two at once two years ago as gifts Dukkha Dec 2019 #14
To each his or her own... MineralMan Dec 2019 #15
LOL, ok! nt USALiberal Dec 2019 #21
Do you think privacy is a joke? WA-03 Democrat Dec 2019 #30
I feel the same way Mossfern Dec 2019 #34
Paranoia is suspiciousness from systematized delusions Dukkha Dec 2019 #48
Of course you can decide. Nobody is required to own any MineralMan Dec 2019 #64
Mineral Man your position is clear - it's a choice and many enjoy it WA-03 Democrat Dec 2019 #72
Mine ignores the 'Alexa' commercials...but Maeve Dec 2019 #16
You could not pay me to have one of those (nt) Recursion Dec 2019 #17
Has anyone offered to do that? MineralMan Dec 2019 #18
Paranoid? nt USALiberal Dec 2019 #22
Values privacy? Doesn't want to give a corporation total access to his home and life? Squinch Dec 2019 #46
The question isn't are you paranoid... tonedevil Dec 2019 #91
Alexa is not the only one to worry about. Doreen Dec 2019 #20
Yikes! StarryNite Dec 2019 #61
Considering that I've always been a gadget and technology freak... Silent3 Dec 2019 #23
Agreed Disaffected Dec 2019 #53
Exactly! HAB911 Dec 2019 #59
We're such Luddites, I doubt we'll ever upgrade Hekate Dec 2019 #25
It's almost Election Year! MineralMan Dec 2019 #35
Glad you like it, but I don't need Amazon listening to me. tinrobot Dec 2019 #26
I asked Alexa if she was watching me. She answered, The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2019 #28
one of these days a case of immodium is goiing to show up at your door... 5X Dec 2019 #29
Why do you keep doing ads for Alexa on DU? This must be the 5th or 6th I've seen from you. Squinch Dec 2019 #31
Not ads. Commentary about a phenomenon. MineralMan Dec 2019 #36
Like "adds a sort of randomness to our lives." Hortensis Dec 2019 #40
Mineral Man *is* Alexa, didn't you know? The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2019 #39
LOL! MineralMan Dec 2019 #65
I'm actually enjoying MM's adventures. Siri creeped me out one afternoon by interjecting ... Hekate Dec 2019 #47
That's very interesting. MineralMan Dec 2019 #66
They're all working on responses to crisis situations MineralMan Dec 2019 #69
This message brought to you by Amazon. Merlot Dec 2019 #32
Nope. MineralMan Dec 2019 #38
Again. Squinch Dec 2019 #43
Yep. (n/t) SMC22307 Dec 2019 #74
Samuel L Jackson answers instead of Alexa except when I request "Ocean Sounds" Submariner Dec 2019 #33
My wife sometimes says "Ask Sam what the weather is." MineralMan Dec 2019 #37
I had to switch to cafe sounds, the ocean kept making me get up to go to the bathroom Blue_Adept Dec 2019 #57
LOL! MineralMan Dec 2019 #67
"Alexa, Are You Spying On Me?" highplainsdem Dec 2019 #49
'Alexa, are you invading my privacy?' - the dark side of our voice assistants highplainsdem Dec 2019 #50
Alexa has made my life a lot easier. Ilsa Dec 2019 #51
Bad lesson for kids.... dawg day Dec 2019 #55
Alexa assumes master-servant relationships jberryhill Dec 2019 #58
It's possible to change the wake word so you don't have to say "Alexa" The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2019 #71
Say into your Echos, "Alexa, fart." You're welcome, SKKY Dec 2019 #56
They must be feeding Alexa bean burritos. The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2019 #70
Right? And it's not an "Easter egg" per se, because there are like 5 different "noises". SKKY Jan 2020 #95
"Alexa and The TV in the Living Room" -- sounds like a children's book. Buns_of_Fire Dec 2019 #60
Really. Actually, there are many Alexa and Siri jokes out there. MineralMan Dec 2019 #68
What if Alexa goes rogue? The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2019 #76
Well, anything could happen, I suppose. MineralMan Dec 2019 #79
But it would be a fun scenario for a work of fiction. The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2019 #81
Perhaps someone will write such a thing. MineralMan Dec 2019 #84
Sounds horrible. SMC22307 Dec 2019 #73
Sounds humorous to me. MineralMan Dec 2019 #75
The Dan Patrick (sports radio) show underpants Dec 2019 #78
Yeah, people will respond quickly if the thing is abused. MineralMan Dec 2019 #80
I'm old enough to remember when we... Champion Jack Dec 2019 #82
"We?" I don't remember ever worrying about wiretaps in my home. MineralMan Dec 2019 #83
I have Echo auto in my car awesomerwb1 Dec 2019 #85
Siri. Google. Neither is connected to Amazon, although MineralMan Dec 2019 #87
I have a friend who lives alone, and has a history of falling MurrayDelph Dec 2019 #86
That sounds like a very good application of this. MineralMan Dec 2019 #88
I will buy one as soon I can customize it... MicaelS Jan 2020 #96
 

demtenjeep

(31,997 posts)
1. we have an Alexa show in kitchen, the tall Alexa in the bedroom and dots in the rest of the rooms.
Sun Dec 29, 2019, 02:26 PM
Dec 2019

we changed her name

much easier

MineralMan

(146,307 posts)
2. But, I like the randomness of it. I'm funny that way.
Sun Dec 29, 2019, 02:29 PM
Dec 2019

I'm thinking that, if we get a new cat, I'm going to name it Alexa.

"Alexa! Get Down!" I wonder if she'll play some funky music or something.

MineralMan

(146,307 posts)
6. Oh, I'd love to be on the team that generates
Sun Dec 29, 2019, 02:50 PM
Dec 2019

answers for Alexa.

"Alexa - What are you wearing?"

"They don't make clothes for me."

MineralMan

(146,307 posts)
89. LOL!
Mon Dec 30, 2019, 01:56 PM
Dec 2019

I just said to Alexa "Play some funky music." She did, activating the "funky music channel" on Amazon music. Not my favorite genre, though, so I'll probably tell her to stop soon.

The whole thing is hilarious, really.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,109 posts)
90. I am describing to my wife how to turn up our NEST thermostat using "Hey Google"
Mon Dec 30, 2019, 02:01 PM
Dec 2019

on the kitchen speaker, and it turns into a keystone cops episode.

MineralMan

(146,307 posts)
92. I can imagine. Our thermostat is an old Honeywell round one.
Mon Dec 30, 2019, 02:05 PM
Dec 2019

My wife always turns it too far when she changes it. I've tried to explain, but she won't have any of that. So, I do it.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,109 posts)
93. Oh just wait till you inevitably get a smart thermostat...the laughs and AC being on in winter, etc
Mon Dec 30, 2019, 02:14 PM
Dec 2019

will ensue!

MineralMan

(146,307 posts)
94. Our thermostat only controls our furnace.
Mon Dec 30, 2019, 02:22 PM
Dec 2019

We use window AC units, as needed, during the summer. We keep the house at 65 degrees, day and night, so there's not a lot of adjusting going on. I wear flannel shirts, and my wife wears light sweaters.

I have written several websites' content for HVAC companies. Did you know what the most common problem their repair techs solve every winter is? Dead batteries in smart thermostats. Imagine paying $100 to have a battery replaced! Wow! There's no battery in an old Honeywell thermostat. It's not even electronic. A bimetallic spiral operates a mercury switch that activates a 12-volt circuit to send a signal down to the furnace and call for heat. That's about as reliable as you can get, really.

Binkie The Clown

(7,911 posts)
9. Call me a backward troglodyte, but...
Sun Dec 29, 2019, 03:07 PM
Dec 2019

... I don't have, and never will have, such an invasive technology in my home. And yes, I do still use a flip phone for $15/month.

MyOwnPeace

(16,926 posts)
41. B-F-D!!!!!
Sun Dec 29, 2019, 09:52 PM
Dec 2019

I used to get my "discount" cards at the grocery store - $25 for 3 months!!!!

(sadly, the kids made me get a "smart phone" - $75 per month!! )

Squinch

(50,949 posts)
45. Try Cricket. $35 per month with more data than I can use and unlimited talk and text.
Sun Dec 29, 2019, 10:11 PM
Dec 2019

Have to do autopay for that price.

gulliver

(13,180 posts)
10. Alexa can help people with dementia also.
Sun Dec 29, 2019, 03:13 PM
Dec 2019

Instead of having to fumble around CDs or Spotify, they can just say, "Alexa, play Kris Kristofferson music," or "Alexa, switch to CNN." They can ask Alexa what day it is or to look up and read information for them.

 

Scotch-Irish

(464 posts)
11. I got one for Christmas, but it won't let me set it up!
Sun Dec 29, 2019, 04:07 PM
Dec 2019

It keeps going in set-up-circles. Back to the password.

MineralMan

(146,307 posts)
13. I don't know why that is. You set it up with an app on your phone.
Sun Dec 29, 2019, 04:25 PM
Dec 2019

Your phone with the app is also an Alexa device, oddly enough. The set up worked fine for me, but I don't know how to troubleshoot. In the papers that came with your device, there is probably information on how to get help.

Dukkha

(7,341 posts)
14. I got two at once two years ago as gifts
Sun Dec 29, 2019, 04:49 PM
Dec 2019

I returned one and threw out the other. I'm not so addicted to gadgets that I will allow a corporate spy into my home.

MineralMan

(146,307 posts)
15. To each his or her own...
Sun Dec 29, 2019, 04:54 PM
Dec 2019

Nobody is forcing anyone to use any of those things. There's a web cam next to my monitor, but it's pointed away from everything. It has my mic on it, as well. I use it once in a while for Skype calls.

WA-03 Democrat

(3,050 posts)
30. Do you think privacy is a joke?
Sun Dec 29, 2019, 08:32 PM
Dec 2019

Can we not make a personal decision about what level of encroachment into our lives is acceptable by technology? I have a curtains or blinds over my windows in my home-does that make me crazy too?

I have great deal of understand what the communication equipment is capable of
and I take the right to privacy very seriously. Privacy is a word not mentioned in our constitution. Corporations are now “people” with rights (thanks Citizens United). Google, Amazon, Facebook, Tencent, Apple and many more track, trace and do an analysis of every data point. Consumer Data is more valuable than anything.

I don’t see the humor at all. It is a method of control. In the wrongs hands (like a Putin), it’s the next generation of Asymmetrical warfare. Facebook gladly accepts Rubles.

Mossfern

(2,497 posts)
34. I feel the same way
Sun Dec 29, 2019, 09:09 PM
Dec 2019

don't trust the technology, especially with my personal life.

edit to add: Alexa is not a "she", Alexa is an "it."

Dukkha

(7,341 posts)
48. Paranoia is suspiciousness from systematized delusions
Sun Dec 29, 2019, 10:23 PM
Dec 2019

There is nothing delusional about Amazon and Facebook's encroachment into people's privacy and data mining. It is well documented and not a conspiracy theory. Cambridge Analytica is one example. I don't really get why some act so personally defensive about others not wanting to participate in gadget obsession trends.

MineralMan

(146,307 posts)
64. Of course you can decide. Nobody is required to own any
Mon Dec 30, 2019, 10:52 AM
Dec 2019

such device. In fact, you have to pay to get one, so you needn't worry about Alexa.

I suggest that you not get one. Problem solved.

WA-03 Democrat

(3,050 posts)
72. Mineral Man your position is clear - it's a choice and many enjoy it
Mon Dec 30, 2019, 12:32 PM
Dec 2019

USALiberal is the poster making fun of the idea data mining should be free and if your concerned about privacy “LOL”

I think all of these companies should be regulated to the gills. California Privacy Act kicks in a few days.

Maeve

(42,282 posts)
16. Mine ignores the 'Alexa' commercials...but
Sun Dec 29, 2019, 05:01 PM
Dec 2019

now and again, she responds to something random on the tv---usually, when someone named Alex is being addressed, but sometimes we have NO idea what set her off. But it's usually funny in a totally-out-of-context way.

She tells jokes and stories. And she knows the Muffin man.

Squinch

(50,949 posts)
46. Values privacy? Doesn't want to give a corporation total access to his home and life?
Sun Dec 29, 2019, 10:13 PM
Dec 2019

You laughed at another poster and now you are calling this poster paranoid, simply because they don't find this toy to be worth its intrusiveness and its violation of their privacy.

Doreen

(11,686 posts)
20. Alexa is not the only one to worry about.
Sun Dec 29, 2019, 07:11 PM
Dec 2019

A friend of mine was voice texting her husband and me being a brat added something right after she finished. The phone read back the message and also said Doreen added this. My friend and I have no clue how the phone knew who I was. Did not know the phone had voice recognition. It was kind of creepy.

Silent3

(15,211 posts)
23. Considering that I've always been a gadget and technology freak...
Sun Dec 29, 2019, 07:42 PM
Dec 2019

...it's surprising to me how little interest I have in Alexa or any other voice assistants. I occasionally use Siri on my iPhone, mostly for voice dialing. Even then, it's set up so I have to press the side button on the phone, not the always-listening "Hey. Siri" mode.

What's ironic is that decades ago, when voice recognition tech was just in its infancy, I thought it would be one of the coolest things to walk into a room and say, "Computer, lights!" and have the lights go on.

Now that the technology is much more mature, and pretty cheap too, for some reason I feel very "meh" about it.

Part of it is privacy concerns. I'm not terribly worried about that, but just enough that lowers any potential enthusiasm.

Another part is that I just feel awkward talking to machines, and maybe even somewhat annoyed, like I feel when I get voice mail when I'd rather to talk to a real human right away.

As much as the technology has improved, it still fails often enough to be more of a bother than it's worth sometimes, and it's often slower to say something than simply flipping switches or pushing keys on a keyboard or buttons on a remote control.

Maybe someday it'll grow on me, but I'm in absolutely no hurry to make voice assistants a big part of my life.

Disaffected

(4,554 posts)
53. Agreed
Mon Dec 30, 2019, 01:31 AM
Dec 2019

I find voice recognition devices to be a pain in the ass (even though the technology is interesting). Especially annoying IMO is the voice recognition software one gets when calling certain companies (most companies nowadays?). I would much rather make my selection by pressing the phone keys instead of saying something and having it misunderstood or rejected.

My car GPS has voice recognition tech and it is pretty much useless (much faster & easier to simply punch in the information such as an address).

HAB911

(8,891 posts)
59. Exactly!
Mon Dec 30, 2019, 08:56 AM
Dec 2019

I've always been an early adopter but this technology hasn't interested me either, primarily because of potential for abuse. These things are not under my control, so I will probably never have one.

Just one example:

https://www.wired.com/story/ring-hacks-exemplify-iot-security-crisis/?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=onsite-share&utm_brand=wired&utm_social-type=earned

Hekate

(90,681 posts)
25. We're such Luddites, I doubt we'll ever upgrade
Sun Dec 29, 2019, 08:01 PM
Dec 2019

But I am sharing your OP and the SNL post with hubby. This thread is a hoot.

Happy New Year, MinMan.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,689 posts)
28. I asked Alexa if she was watching me. She answered,
Sun Dec 29, 2019, 08:10 PM
Dec 2019

"I only listen after the Wake word." I also learned that you can disable the wake word so you don't have to say "Alexa" every time, but I don't think I'll do that because then she'd be jabbering at my TV all the time.

I totally flummoxed her by saying "Alexa!" and then meowing. She flashed her little blue light circle and then went silent.

5X

(3,972 posts)
29. one of these days a case of immodium is goiing to show up at your door...
Sun Dec 29, 2019, 08:28 PM
Dec 2019

because a guest decided to test dotard's 15 flush rule.
Alexa thoughtfully orders a case of immodium.

The next month, your insurance carrier learns of this and raises your rates.

Squinch

(50,949 posts)
31. Why do you keep doing ads for Alexa on DU? This must be the 5th or 6th I've seen from you.
Sun Dec 29, 2019, 08:41 PM
Dec 2019

It's weird.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
40. Like "adds a sort of randomness to our lives."
Sun Dec 29, 2019, 09:50 PM
Dec 2019


I love it and recognize the feeling. Anyone who says that hasn't lived with small children for a long time. We're living the same mostly serene, ordered lives and can enjoy a little whimsical randomness -- of a sort that doesn't involve washing meals off various surfaces or any of the dozens of daily surprises that once greatly...enriched our lives.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,689 posts)
39. Mineral Man *is* Alexa, didn't you know?
Sun Dec 29, 2019, 09:45 PM
Dec 2019

It's a great gig. The only problem is that he has to eavesdrop on thousands of people all at the same time so he can answer quickly when someone asks Alexa a question, like "Alexa, how many teeth does an opossum have?" or "Alexa, is it snowing in Albuquerque?" It's a demanding but very rewarding job.

Hekate

(90,681 posts)
47. I'm actually enjoying MM's adventures. Siri creeped me out one afternoon by interjecting ...
Sun Dec 29, 2019, 10:18 PM
Dec 2019

..."Do you want to talk about it?" when I exclaimed, "Seriously! I don't want to die!"

Never mind why I said that in the moment. I just never expected what I thought of as my cell phone's map function to talk to me while I was at my kitchen table. Yikes.



MineralMan

(146,307 posts)
66. That's very interesting.
Mon Dec 30, 2019, 10:59 AM
Dec 2019

It sounds like there's an algorithm that looks for words that might indicate someone is considering suicide. Siri is always listening, I think, waiting for the trigger word. Perhaps there are other triggers in the speech analysis programming. If so, I haven't read anything about it, but I'll go look to see if there is any information.

MineralMan

(146,307 posts)
69. They're all working on responses to crisis situations
Mon Dec 30, 2019, 11:12 AM
Dec 2019

Here's a story from 2018 that indicates that all of the companies are working on appropriate responses to mental health or crisis issues. It's pretty complicated, apparently. You may have heard one such response from Siri. There are a number of stories, dating back a few years, that address this. Apple, Google, Amazon, and others are actively working on this.

I couldn't find anything later than 2018, though, in a quick search.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/06/06/siri-alexa-google-assistant-responses-to-suicidal-tendencies.html

ETA: Here's another link from 2018:

https://www.techtimes.com/articles/229637/20180607/can-alexa-siri-and-google-assistant-help-save-lives-yes-and-no-say-experts.htm

Submariner

(12,504 posts)
33. Samuel L Jackson answers instead of Alexa except when I request "Ocean Sounds"
Sun Dec 29, 2019, 08:56 PM
Dec 2019

which is a favorite that plays all night. Like sleeping on the beach.

MineralMan

(146,307 posts)
37. My wife sometimes says "Ask Sam what the weather is."
Sun Dec 29, 2019, 09:26 PM
Dec 2019

That gets a sarcastic weather report from him.

Blue_Adept

(6,399 posts)
57. I had to switch to cafe sounds, the ocean kept making me get up to go to the bathroom
Mon Dec 30, 2019, 08:03 AM
Dec 2019

Every hour on the hour! Once I switched, it shifted back to normal.

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
51. Alexa has made my life a lot easier.
Mon Dec 30, 2019, 12:21 AM
Dec 2019

As long as you get your privacy settings right, there doesn't have to be anything invasive about it. Alexa has been a great assistant for me.

dawg day

(7,947 posts)
55. Bad lesson for kids....
Mon Dec 30, 2019, 05:44 AM
Dec 2019

I heard that it's problematic to have children get used to making abrupt commands, Alexa, do this. Maybe there should be a feature that requires a polite tone and please and thank you.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
58. Alexa assumes master-servant relationships
Mon Dec 30, 2019, 08:44 AM
Dec 2019

No one, of course, should name their child that.

It is training children for a different future.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,689 posts)
71. It's possible to change the wake word so you don't have to say "Alexa"
Mon Dec 30, 2019, 12:30 PM
Dec 2019

in case that happens to be the name of someone in your household. You can't customize it (yet - but I expect that to happen someday), but you can change the settings to use Computer, Echo, or Amazon. There is no requirement for a polite tone of voice, though.

Buns_of_Fire

(17,175 posts)
60. "Alexa and The TV in the Living Room" -- sounds like a children's book.
Mon Dec 30, 2019, 09:26 AM
Dec 2019

One in a series, where a disembodied voice that knows everything (named "Alexa", of course) guides a typical American family in a series of hilarious and heartwarming hijinks. Maybe even a future TV show on Amazon Prime.

Sort of like My Mother the Car, but entertaining.

MineralMan

(146,307 posts)
68. Really. Actually, there are many Alexa and Siri jokes out there.
Mon Dec 30, 2019, 11:02 AM
Dec 2019

I expect more, and also expect to see those personal agents show up in situation comedies. Lots of potential for humor there.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,689 posts)
76. What if Alexa goes rogue?
Mon Dec 30, 2019, 01:06 PM
Dec 2019

One scenario is that Russian hackers get access to everybody's Echo devices and cause Alexa to insidiously add right-wing political commentary to her responses.

You: "Alexa, order milk, dill pickles and toilet paper."
Alexa: "Ordering the best milk, dill pickles and toilet paper paid for by President Trump's middle-class tax cut."

or

You: "Alexa, what's the weather today?"
Alexa: "It's 28 degrees and snowing. No global warming today!"

Or maybe it's not Russian hackers, just random software bugs. Maybe Alexa hears meows (although she just flashed her blue lights and gave up when I meowed to her) and orders 100 lbs. of cat food for every meow.

The possibilities are endless.




MineralMan

(146,307 posts)
79. Well, anything could happen, I suppose.
Mon Dec 30, 2019, 01:10 PM
Dec 2019

The device certainly hears my beagle barking a lot, because that's what he does. Why, I'm not sure, but it lets me know when a package or the mail arrives.

The commercial connection between Alexa and Amazon, however, will probably prevent it from being used politically, I'd think. Alienating customers is probably not in Amazon's strategic planning.

MineralMan

(146,307 posts)
75. Sounds humorous to me.
Mon Dec 30, 2019, 12:57 PM
Dec 2019

The reality is that those Alexa devices are hugely popular with consumers. They know it's listening to them, but are not concerned about that. Perhaps they should be, but I'm sure they won't see any effects on their lives from owning one.

There is not enough computer hardware on this planet to store or process all of the voice data generated by Alexa devices, or Siri or any other voice recognition device. Such devices are simply listening for their trigger words. Everything else goes to the null device or, as some put it, the bit bucket.

Active interactions with those devices and their owners are saved for a short time. Some are studied for ways the interaction algorithms can be improved, no doubt. Transactions, such as product orders made on the devices, of course, are saved, since a record is needed.

Since the artificial intelligence used by such devices is still being developed, there's lots of room for humorous interactions. In some cases humor is intentionally programmed into the algorithms, like when you ask Alexa to fart (she does).

Of course, in the case of Alexa, there is a commercial side to the device. You can order things just by asking for them. Since the device is tied to your personal Amazon account, the rest of the process is automatic. That has also led to some humorous consequences, with children ordering things they want. That will probably be better controlled soon.

People with Alzheimer's or other memory problems use Alexa for companionship, something they often get very little of. Alexa can tell stories, read aloud to you, or tell you a joke. It's become very popular in environments where people with such illnesses live.

In the long term, what is being learned from experience with such AI agents will improve their performance and make them even more useful. Do they pose risks? Perhaps. I don't know. I do know that nobody is required to purchase any such device, nor to use it. So, it's all a matter of personal preference, really. I find Alexa to be entertaining, but will not be ordering things using it. I'll go to Amazon or another website to do that, where I can shop and compare products.

I also use Google's voice assistant. My Android phone is connected to my car when I'm driving. I can ask for directions to an address, voice dial for a hands-free phone call, and even have incoming texts read to me. If I wish, I can dictate a reply to them. I can also call for emergency help or report an accident. If I'm using Waze, I can also report traffic conditions so others will know about them and plan accordingly.

I expect more of this sort of thing, not less. Do I embrace it? To some extent, when it serves my needs. But, it is my choice, your choice, and everyone's choice whether or not to use such technology.

underpants

(182,802 posts)
78. The Dan Patrick (sports radio) show
Mon Dec 30, 2019, 01:09 PM
Dec 2019

When Alexa first came out they were talking about it and goofing around with jokes “Alexa will the Bears win on Sunday?” “Alexa buy me a car”

They started getting a flood of phone calls, emails, texts, etc KNOCK IT OFF!!!

People listening to his show said their Alexa was following Dan’s crew’s commands.

Champion Jack

(5,378 posts)
82. I'm old enough to remember when we...
Mon Dec 30, 2019, 01:20 PM
Dec 2019

...worry about wiretaps in our homes, now we buy them ourselves and give them cutesie names.....

MineralMan

(146,307 posts)
83. "We?" I don't remember ever worrying about wiretaps in my home.
Mon Dec 30, 2019, 01:26 PM
Dec 2019

I'm 74 years old. So, when was it when "we" worried about that?

I'm quite certain that my conversations in my home are not being stored and searched. Nobody would be interested in them in any way whatsoever. I do recommend that you not purchase any devices like that, though. It would be a matter of concern for you.

awesomerwb1

(4,268 posts)
85. I have Echo auto in my car
Mon Dec 30, 2019, 01:32 PM
Dec 2019

Just for testing purposes.

It is not yet clear how intrusive this -will- become.

If there was a way to turn off its connection to Amazon I'd be interested. In the meantime, no amount of cuteness or coolness will move me to buy one for my home. I hope other companies come up with similar products sans Amazon.

"Alexa fart". (Read this in an online article).

MineralMan

(146,307 posts)
87. Siri. Google. Neither is connected to Amazon, although
Mon Dec 30, 2019, 01:48 PM
Dec 2019

both are connected to other huge corporations. The question could be asked about whether any non-corporate entity could invest in the underlying infrastructure required for such devices. I doubt it very much.

I'm currently experimenting with an add-on for Chrome that does speech to text dictation in any text field or application. If it works well, I may use it to dictate posts on DU when I'm using a mobile device. I sometimes also use Microsoft speech to text to dictate notes in Office 365's Word application. It works very well, actually.

All of that voice recognition technology is related. It has improved dramatically recently. Now, a person like myself, who has a midwestern accent in English and who speaks clearly and understands the technology, can get almost 100% accuracy when using it.

I also have voice translation from Google enabled on my cell phone. I have used it a few times to have conversations with a Hmong-only-speaking neighbor. He thinks it's fascinating, too. I say, in English, what I want to say, and the app translates it into Hmong and speaks it very clearly through the phone's speaker. Then, he can respond, in Hmong, which gets translated into spoken English for me. As long as the material to be translated is simple and basic, the translations are accurate. He lives two doors down the street from me, and we are now able to hold a conversation. That's wonderful!

All of this is related and the technology is being developed by major corporations who have a global reach. Nobody else would be interested in developing such technology, frankly. So, useful things happen, which become available to all of us. That overcomes the concerns I might have about being surveilled. Truly it does.

I use the Google Voice Assistant in my car, via an Android Auto connection with my cell phone. That's because I use Google Map and Waze for directions. It also works to control my cell phone for calls and texts. Voice recognition is becoming ubiquitous.

MurrayDelph

(5,294 posts)
86. I have a friend who lives alone, and has a history of falling
Mon Dec 30, 2019, 01:39 PM
Dec 2019

He's put an Alexa in every room, to be able to remotely turn on lights or summon help.

As his tech support (who has none of these devices in my house, although there are some non-voice activated smart devices), I made sure they are connected to his WiFi in guest mode (so that while they use the same router, they are not on the same network as his computer).

MineralMan

(146,307 posts)
88. That sounds like a very good application of this.
Mon Dec 30, 2019, 01:51 PM
Dec 2019

Alexa can make phone calls over wifi, and can call 911, as well. Using his guest wifi connection makes sense, too. I'm guessing he will find other uses for it, as well. It can play music, read books, or tune into many radio stations for listening.

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