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mahatmakanejeeves

(57,446 posts)
Mon Dec 30, 2019, 05:51 PM Dec 2019

Is This an Authentic Photograph of Trump?

What's up with this picture?

Is This an Authentic Photograph of President Trump?
A photograph of Trump, posted online by a Republican congressman, prompted much speculation about the president's skincare regimen.
DAN MACGUILL
PUBLISHED 27 DECEMBER 2019
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Rating
Unproven
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The man shown to Trump’s left in the photograph was Rep. Chuck Fleischmann, R-Tenn. On the evening of Dec. 12, Fleischmann (or a member of his team) posted the photograph to both his Twitter and Facebook accounts:

Thank you @realDonaldTrump for the invitation to the White House and for a wonderful evening! It is always a pleasure to spend time with our great President.



The photograph appears to have been snapped at the White House Congressional Ball, which took place on the evening of Dec. 12, as we could find no earlier instance of the photograph other than those posted online by Fleischmann on that date. The image appears to be authentic, since Fleischmann is a strong supporter of Trump’s, and it seems unlikely he would arrange for the image to be digitally altered before publication so as to create the false appearance of a non-existent skin tone demarcation on the president’s face.

However, we cannot rule out the possibility, however unlikely, that either Fleischmann or a member of his staff — for whatever reason — arranged for the photograph to be digitally manipulated, or that the photograph was not originally posted by the Congressman, that he or his staff found the image posted elsewhere after it was edited by a third party, and that they subsequently reposted it. The original post could have been deleted, leaving the impression that Fleischmann was the original poster.

Since we can’t rule out the possibility that Fleischmann or his team either digitally altered the photograph or reposted an already-altered version, we are issuing a verdict of “Unproven” regarding the authenticity of the image.
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It’s also possible that the photograph was not edited but that the angle from which it was taken, perhaps in combination with the lighting in that part of the room, contributed to exaggerating a color gradient on Trump’s face which was, in reality, much more subtle. Several other photographs of the president from that same event do not exhibit him with the same stark demarcation in skin tone, although they do show the opposite side of his face:
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We made repeated attempts to seek clarification from Fleischmann’s spokesperson, but unfortunately we did not receive a response in time for publication. If we receive information which clarifies the photograph’s origins and rules out the possibility that the Congressman’s staff either digitally altered the photograph or posted an already-altered image, we will update this fact check accordingly.
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Is This an Authentic Photograph of Trump? (Original Post) mahatmakanejeeves Dec 2019 OP
Trump's mask is slipping. guillaumeb Dec 2019 #1
He forgot to wipe his face off after the butterscotch pudding. marble falls Dec 2019 #3
So he fell into the bowl? guillaumeb Dec 2019 #5
He ate the damn pudding. If his tongue was longer, his face would be cleaner. marble falls Dec 2019 #15
There are a number of possible endings to the "if his tongue were longer" phrase. guillaumeb Dec 2019 #17
Self deleted. marble falls Dec 2019 #20
Indeed. guillaumeb Dec 2019 #21
They were both gems and totally deserved ... marble falls Dec 2019 #23
That's why Melania actually has a natural smile in that photo. She knows! 😂 TheBlackAdder Dec 2019 #9
I cannot imagine her smiling with any sincerity, guillaumeb Dec 2019 #12
Here's the photo ... marble falls Dec 2019 #2
Thanks. I know that not everyone has easy access to tweets. mahatmakanejeeves Dec 2019 #4
Hey, we're here for each other, man! marble falls Dec 2019 #13
The photo came from Fleischmann, a strong supporter of Trump dalton99a Dec 2019 #6
He's too vain to wear his glasses? No one associated with Trump pays attention to details? marble falls Dec 2019 #18
Which is why he won't comment on the photo now Miguelito Loveless Dec 2019 #26
Remember the Don Johnson movie, Boy and His Dog? Trump reminds me of the underground dwellers. TheBlackAdder Dec 2019 #7
Great movie, the book by Harlen Elison is even better. The ending is one of the ... marble falls Dec 2019 #10
Great fucking movie! 11 Bravo Dec 2019 #11
That line is not in the original story, and infuriated Ellison by turning the ending into Aristus Dec 2019 #22
That's why I only commented on the movie. 11 Bravo Dec 2019 #25
Oh, so you know. Aristus Dec 2019 #28
I am SUPREMELY jealous! 11 Bravo Dec 2019 #31
It was an incredible experience. Aristus Dec 2019 #32
Tip to ol' cheetolini - never fall asleep in the chair of a makeup person ... marble falls Dec 2019 #8
Where are the triple chins and basset hound jowls? n/t sarge43 Dec 2019 #14
That's the face of a dude desperately wondering whether or not to trust a fart. 11 Bravo Dec 2019 #16
Actually the fart is worried about trusting Trump. marble falls Dec 2019 #19
I'm pretty sure it's been altered. Kablooie Dec 2019 #24
His makeup person of many years accused him of harassment and since then he's doing his own mahina Dec 2019 #29
I also think it's been altered because his white raccoon mask isn't there. nt tblue37 Dec 2019 #33
Reality break. mahina Dec 2019 #27
I really think he has vitiligo and is trying to cover it with fake tan. Cuthbert Allgood Dec 2019 #30

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
17. There are a number of possible endings to the "if his tongue were longer" phrase.
Mon Dec 30, 2019, 06:15 PM
Dec 2019

In the interests of respectful dialogue, I will say no more.

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,446 posts)
4. Thanks. I know that not everyone has easy access to tweets.
Mon Dec 30, 2019, 06:01 PM
Dec 2019

They take forever for me to download when I am at home.

dalton99a

(81,486 posts)
6. The photo came from Fleischmann, a strong supporter of Trump
Mon Dec 30, 2019, 06:03 PM
Dec 2019

Why would he want to make Trump look bad/worse by editing the photo?

marble falls

(57,081 posts)
10. Great movie, the book by Harlen Elison is even better. The ending is one of the ...
Mon Dec 30, 2019, 06:08 PM
Dec 2019

funniest jokes ever.

The whiteface doo wop group looks like a proto-Hello People. Sort of a Hello Up With People.

11 Bravo

(23,926 posts)
11. Great fucking movie!
Mon Dec 30, 2019, 06:09 PM
Dec 2019

"Well, I'd say she had marvelous judgement, Albert, if not particularly good taste."

Aristus

(66,352 posts)
22. That line is not in the original story, and infuriated Ellison by turning the ending into
Mon Dec 30, 2019, 06:19 PM
Dec 2019

a cheap joke.

The final line in the story is: "A boy loves his dog."

Aristus

(66,352 posts)
28. Oh, so you know.
Mon Dec 30, 2019, 06:50 PM
Dec 2019

Good. HE is my favorite author. Getting to have dinner with him is one of the greatest honors of my life.

11 Bravo

(23,926 posts)
31. I am SUPREMELY jealous!
Mon Dec 30, 2019, 07:03 PM
Dec 2019

That must have been a truly remarkable evening.

For the title alone, a man who could write "I have no Mouth, and I must Scream" is someone I would have loved to meet.

Aristus

(66,352 posts)
32. It was an incredible experience.
Mon Dec 30, 2019, 07:11 PM
Dec 2019

He's been called a supreme jerk, but only by people who had it coming. With his fans, he's charming and open, and extremely witty. I somehow accidentally was able to have dinner with him and his self-appointed entourage during the Fantasy Con he was in town for. He was a spellbinding conversationalist.

If one needed proof of the kind of person he really is, one could use the tried-and-true 'what are they like with service workers?' gambit.

The waiter came to our table and took everyone's order. He had a thick Hispanic accent. Harlan asked him "Where are you from?"

I thought "Oh no; please don't be mean; please don't be a jerk!..."

"Mexico City, sir."

"Oh I love Mexico City!" and he proceeded to tell us of his experiences there, and how much he enjoyed the culture, the people, the architecture, etc. He couldn't have been more pleasant or charming. That's the real Harlan Ellison.

I miss him. But he had a long, very fulfilling life, and contributed immeasurably to American letters.

marble falls

(57,081 posts)
8. Tip to ol' cheetolini - never fall asleep in the chair of a makeup person ...
Mon Dec 30, 2019, 06:06 PM
Dec 2019

that you only gave a copy of Don Jr's latest book to for Christmas!


I grabbed a copy out of the dumpster in our complex. I found Don Jr's book to be the perfect book. I put it under the short leg of my coffee table and now my beer doesn't slide off.

Kablooie

(18,634 posts)
24. I'm pretty sure it's been altered.
Mon Dec 30, 2019, 06:22 PM
Dec 2019

It looks like the line of the light tone is carried up into the hair and not up into the corner of the forehead.
This is likely from a brush stroke used to lighten the back of his head.
Not definitive but suggestive of a modified picture.

mahina

(17,653 posts)
29. His makeup person of many years accused him of harassment and since then he's doing his own
Mon Dec 30, 2019, 06:54 PM
Dec 2019

Or so I read here when this pic first came out. It’s been a while.

Cuthbert Allgood

(4,921 posts)
30. I really think he has vitiligo and is trying to cover it with fake tan.
Mon Dec 30, 2019, 07:01 PM
Dec 2019

Tanning booth won't work; that's why he needs to do the spray tan bullshit.

As someone that has vitiligo, I wish he's just own it and help normalize it, but I realize he's too vain of a buffoon for that to ever happen.

And I don't think we have to go to his looks, even if he doesn't have vitiligo, to find something to mock him for. How about we just stick with his fascism?

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