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I was scrolling through my Twitter Feed early this morning and saw an article published by The Hill where Tulsi Gabbard (the one the same) offered up her view that Impeachment would help re-elect Trump 2020. I won't get too much into my rage-filled feelings about Tulsi Gabbard (which side is she on?), but her opinion is one that seems to be banging around social media and op-ed pieces like a ball being knocked around inside a Pinball Table- that impeaching Trump is going to "help" Trump in 2020 and that Democrats are basically stupid for going after him for his obvious misconduct (re: Ukraine)
My question, are you f**king serious? In what reality will impeaching Trump *help* him, seriously? His MAGAT base will, as with all things, stand solidly behind him and rage at Nancy Pelosi and Adam Schiff, et. al right along with him, of course, but then I'm reading polling where REMOVING Trump from office actually has pretty solid public support. So, what's the deal here? How does impeaching Trump actually help him? Is there actual historical context for this assertion or is it just a whole lot of wishful thinking. I'm aware that there was never much public support for impeaching Bill Clinton in 1998-1999 and his popularity seemed to increase as a result- but his successor, Al Gore, *lost* in 2000- and George W. Bush was able to more or less successfully run on a platform of "restoring dignity to the White House" (LOL). Nixon wasn't impeached but he probably would have had he not resigned in disgrace and Republicans lost in 1976. I don't know much about Johnson's impeachment to comment on his situation at the moment. But, I still want to know why, exactly, some people think that it's going to help him, especially with how he is reacting to it and how the Republicans in Senate are planning their show trial to "exonerate" him?
Is anybody here able to see how Trump comes out of an Impeachment Trial- even if acquitted- with a strong(er) chance for re-election in 2020? I've heard that it will help "energize" his base, but won't it energize our base, who have been clamoring for it for even longer, as well?
Interested in everybody's thoughts here.
Joe941
(2,848 posts)kentuck
(112,957 posts)Does she know how she is being used?
Proud Liberal Dem
(24,782 posts)She seems to be confused about which team she is on.
Bucky
(55,334 posts)She likes the autocrats--Asaad, Modi, etc. She can still be a real Democrat and a power worshipper. Even a bit of an Islamaphobic bigot.
It's a shame. She could've had a serious future in the party. Her soft ties to would-be despots can't be tolerated
SCantiGOP
(14,302 posts)and we'll discuss which side she is on
guillaumeb
(42,649 posts)Trump would not be compulsively tweeting about the issue.
When 70% of the public wants a trial, and 55% feel Trump violated the law, there is only one reason that McConnell is terrified of a real trial.
And it is not because a trial would help Trump.
If this was such good news for Trump, he'd be serene about the whole process. Do Trump's tweets sound serene?
This is getting into the ridiculous territory of "This is good news for John McCain," regardless of what his feckless 2008 campaign did.
guillaumeb
(42,649 posts)All about the race, and attracting revenue,
Lexee
(377 posts)happen. Democrats were hoping with such an strong obvious crime that would pull them thru but there was always this very real issue that it would backfire on the Democrats. So all the demand for the last couple years to start impeachment as if that would solve our problems were much more complicated than a lot of people wanted to realize.
Bucky
(55,334 posts)If impeachment helps Trump politically, then this country is damned by its own voters, anyway
Takket
(22,662 posts)55% want him removed from office. the only question for the GOP isn't how they "win" the narrative, but how do they limit the damage at this point.
Pelosi has stymied every effort they've made to get the upper hand.
RobinA
(10,197 posts)it's a "media meme." I've always worried that it would help him and that's why I was and am not pro-impeachment. Just because it makes him nervous doesn't mean it won't be good for him. I don't think it will change one mind and I do think it will help his turnout. He was just trying to root out corruption in the Ukraine, doncha know?
Proud Liberal Dem
(24,782 posts)To be sure, there's bound to be some "rally" around the leader by those of the same party, but should that be a legitimate reason to just not do anything about Presidential misconduct?