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Tue Dec 31, 2019, 01:20 PM

Legal marijuana sales may spark Midwest interstate tension

Retailers legally selling marijuana for the past month in Michigan say they have drawn customers from surrounding Midwestern states where the drug remains illegal and, as Illinois prepares to joins the recreational market on Wednesday, officials are renewing warnings to consumers against carrying such products over state lines.

The dynamic is familiar for states on the West and East coasts where the sale and use of marijuana has been broadly allowed since Colorado's market opened in 2014, despite a federal ban that created a patchwork of legal and cultural snares. Nebraska and Oklahoma went so far as to file an unsuccessful lawsuit against Colorado, arguing that its marijuana law would have ill effects for surrounding states.

In the years since, the industry has wrestled with questions over companies' obligation to pay federal income taxes or follow laws on employee safety. Other thorny issues confronted state regulators, who were forced to determine suitable pesticides for growing cannabis plants, and which ingredients were safe to include in products meant to be eaten or burned. That terrain is usually reserved for federal agencies.

The tensest point, though, remains the illegal market that has survived in states with legal cannabis markets. Some of that product comes from outside the legal systems tracked closely by states' regulators, while other states have struggled to keep “diverted” legal marijuana from bleeding into the illegal market at home or in far-flung states.

https://news.yahoo.com/legal-marijuana-sales-may-spark-174318939.html

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Reply Legal marijuana sales may spark Midwest interstate tension (Original post)
Zorro Dec 2019 OP
SCantiGOP Dec 2019 #1
Quemado Dec 2019 #11
CanonRay Dec 2019 #2
brokephibroke Dec 2019 #5
Wounded Bear Dec 2019 #18
brokephibroke Dec 2019 #3
tblue37 Dec 2019 #4
RobinA Dec 2019 #7
getagrip_already Dec 2019 #13
SCantiGOP Dec 2019 #14
RobinA Dec 2019 #6
tblue37 Dec 2019 #9
maxsolomon Dec 2019 #10
maxsolomon Dec 2019 #8
getagrip_already Dec 2019 #12
SCantiGOP Dec 2019 #15
MagickMuffin Dec 2019 #16
Yavin4 Dec 2019 #17
lame54 Dec 2019 #19

Response to Zorro (Original post)

Tue Dec 31, 2019, 01:26 PM

1. Be very careful

If you drive from Colorado to Nebraska, especially if you have East Coast license plates.
There are usually Nebraska State Troopers sitting at the state line waiting to stop "suspicious" cars, like the ones described in the sentence above.
Most of the weed in SC these days is coming from the Western legal states, and much of it is transported by vehicle.

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Response to SCantiGOP (Reply #1)

Tue Dec 31, 2019, 01:53 PM

11. I avoid driving from CO to NE for that reason.

I've read stories about innocent people getting their vehicles literally turned inside out by Nebraska state police. Their crime? They drove 1 mph over the speed limit, or they forgot to turn on their turn signal to make a lane change.

Oh, and by the way, there's a law firm in Omaha that specializes in defending people who have had unfortunate encounters with Nebraska state police.

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Response to Zorro (Original post)

Tue Dec 31, 2019, 01:26 PM

2. People bring guns into Illinois from Indiana and Kentucky

that people in Illinois don't want, why not send them pot?

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Response to CanonRay (Reply #2)

Tue Dec 31, 2019, 01:31 PM

5. Guns or weed

Which is more deadly? Screw Indiana.

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Response to brokephibroke (Reply #5)

Tue Dec 31, 2019, 03:00 PM

18. It's probably guns for weed...

Prohibition leads to smuggling. When two popular items are prohibited in neighboring areas, it sets up a natural trade corridor.

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Response to Zorro (Original post)

Tue Dec 31, 2019, 01:30 PM

3. Not a big deal

It’s not like they don’t smoke week in Indiana, Wisconsin, Iowa or Missouri anyway.

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Response to Zorro (Original post)

Tue Dec 31, 2019, 01:30 PM

4. Back when Kansas was still a dry state, Kansas cops used to hide near the KS/MO state line

to bust people bringing back alcohol from Missouri.

It was ridiculous.

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Response to tblue37 (Reply #4)

Tue Dec 31, 2019, 01:41 PM

7. They Just Never Learn

It's like when, as an adult, I see and hear teachers talking about doing things that, as a kid, they would have known never work. When they grow up and become teachers do they forget, or are they just dumb. Or sometimes I think the people who become teachers were different in school than the rest of us.

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Response to tblue37 (Reply #4)

Tue Dec 31, 2019, 02:01 PM

13. MA cops used to hide out at NH state liquor store parking lots....

To bag people who bought liquor tax free in NH and take it back to MA without paying tax. NH conveniently put these stores on the highway right at the border.

So NH started arresting and harassing the MA cops. It was very funny until Meldrim Thompson advocated for tactical nukes for the national guard. I don't think it was related, but you never know.

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Response to getagrip_already (Reply #13)

Tue Dec 31, 2019, 02:15 PM

14. Same thing in DC years ago

They had a much lower tax and no limit on what you buy as compared to VA and MD, so DC cops would stake out liquor stores and follow cars till they crossed the state line (this was legal under the "hot pursuit" provision).
Some small bar owners would find it cheaper to buy in DC than from a wholesaler.

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Response to Zorro (Original post)

Tue Dec 31, 2019, 01:35 PM

6. Interesting

"while other states have struggled to keep 'diverted' legal marijuana from bleeding into the illegal market at home or in far-flung states." What's the problem? Illegal drug cartels complaining? This is typical of the mess that is our attitude towards illegal drugs, but especially MJ. You would think that Illegal State would prefer to have Joe Suburbanite Who Lives Near The Colorado Border bring home a few extra gummy bears to sell back home when he makes his cross-border run than have everybody feeding the black market.

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Response to RobinA (Reply #6)

Tue Dec 31, 2019, 01:47 PM

9. Back in the 1970s the people I knew who brought back alcohol were doing so merely to

have some to offer guests at dinner parties. (I was a KU faculty wife back then.)

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Response to RobinA (Reply #6)

Tue Dec 31, 2019, 01:51 PM

10. Lots of weed tourists just bring it back for their personal use.

Rather than buy at home from the illegal market and take the risks that entails. Not to sell.

Or so I heard from a friend of a friend.

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Response to Zorro (Original post)

Tue Dec 31, 2019, 01:47 PM

8. Boo Hoo. Boo Hoo Hoo Hoo.

Once IN sees the tax revenue IL and MI are enjoying they'll loosen their tight asses up.

Love, WA.

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Response to Zorro (Original post)

Tue Dec 31, 2019, 01:54 PM

12. why is this even a "thing" causing concern?

Rec legal states are all over the country, and the world hasn't ended.

On the other hand, opiods and fentanyl are flooding states like NE and OK, causing carnage on an unprecedented scale.

Who cares if someone grabs an oz and runs home? Really, it's just a profit center for the states where it isn't legal.

But ooohhhh. residents need to worry. not.

If they wanted to stop smuggling, they would ban cars and trucks and close airports. Make people walk across the border carrying nothing.

That would work. Maybe. They'd probably have to xray people to make sure they didn't have drugs in their gut or under their skin.

So just put up a solid wall and don't let anyone in or out. I'd be fine with that that for NE and OK.

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Response to getagrip_already (Reply #12)

Tue Dec 31, 2019, 02:17 PM

15. Build the wall!

Stoners are coming into our state and giving people the munchies. This horror must be stopped.

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Response to getagrip_already (Reply #12)

Tue Dec 31, 2019, 02:33 PM

16. OK is legal for Medical not recreational


They have a headstart over Texas. We be lagging behind.


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Response to Zorro (Original post)

Tue Dec 31, 2019, 02:39 PM

17. Indiana doesn't want their women folk running off with Jazz musicians

That's what happens to people when they start smoking weed.

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Response to Zorro (Original post)

Tue Dec 31, 2019, 03:48 PM

19. There is a solution for these states...

Legalise it assholes

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