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Ferrets are Cool

(21,106 posts)
Fri Jan 3, 2020, 11:20 AM Jan 2020

A serious question about this "bombing"

What gives "America" the right to send a missile into another country and assassinate ANYONE without a declaration of war? I do realized there will be no consequences IF this is not legal because a dictator can do whatever he want, but I would still like to know the answer.

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A serious question about this "bombing" (Original Post) Ferrets are Cool Jan 2020 OP
What gives the president sole authority to engage in an act of war.... Firestorm49 Jan 2020 #1
I'd like to know this too Bettie Jan 2020 #2
No it's not normal C_U_L8R Jan 2020 #3
We asked Iraq for permission for the other strike last week CabalPowered Jan 2020 #4
Are you sure about that? Bev54 Jan 2020 #6
No, I'm wrong CabalPowered Jan 2020 #8
No problem, it happens, wasn't sure if i heard it correctly Bev54 Jan 2020 #11
Over the last several decades the Congress has abdicated their war declaration powers. Thomas Hurt Jan 2020 #5
We've been doing it for quite a while onenote Jan 2020 #7
Indeed we have gratuitous Jan 2020 #9
Yes, they are war crimes, no matter WHO orders them to be carried out. Ferrets are Cool Jan 2020 #10

Firestorm49

(4,035 posts)
1. What gives the president sole authority to engage in an act of war....
Fri Jan 3, 2020, 11:23 AM
Jan 2020

without congressional notification?

Telling Lindsey Graham while playing golf hardly qualifies, but then again, this guy isn’t too bright.

Bettie

(16,104 posts)
2. I'd like to know this too
Fri Jan 3, 2020, 11:27 AM
Jan 2020

Also: would he have done this if the guy had been in Germany or France or is this a special case becasue Iraq has no sovereignty in their country?

I'm appalled at the number of people here on DU who think this is not only OK, but a good thing. Apparently, there are a lot more fans of endless war among us than I'd thought.

CabalPowered

(12,690 posts)
4. We asked Iraq for permission for the other strike last week
Fri Jan 3, 2020, 11:33 AM
Jan 2020

There has been no indication that such a request preceded this strike, but I seriously doubt it.

Bev54

(10,052 posts)
6. Are you sure about that?
Fri Jan 3, 2020, 01:04 PM
Jan 2020

My understanding was that Iraq was pissed that the US had not gotten permission for that attack and now with this, they may well kick the US out of their country, thus turning it over to Iran or Russia.

Thomas Hurt

(13,903 posts)
5. Over the last several decades the Congress has abdicated their war declaration powers.
Fri Jan 3, 2020, 11:42 AM
Jan 2020

We don't declare wars anymore.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
9. Indeed we have
Fri Jan 3, 2020, 02:54 PM
Jan 2020

And I protested when the Obama administration did it just like I protested when the Bush administrations, the Clinton administration, and the Reagan administration did it, too.

It doesn't matter who's carrying out these war crimes, they're still war crimes, even if we really, really, really don't like the target of our extra-legal attacks, whether it's Osama bin Laden or anyone luckless enough to be in the vicinity of our target. That's the whole idea behind being a nation of laws. The law is supposed to bind and guide a country even when it's inconvenient or doesn't feel good.

Ferrets are Cool

(21,106 posts)
10. Yes, they are war crimes, no matter WHO orders them to be carried out.
Fri Jan 3, 2020, 03:35 PM
Jan 2020

Imagine the FUCKING OUTRAGE if a country, any country, did this to America. Oh wait, they did in 2001 and we are still not over it. But if we do it to another country, it's just fine and dandy. Makes me SICK.

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